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(MAC/MAI) Mycobacterium Avium Complex Pulmonary Disease: Join us

Posted by Katherine, Alumni Mentor @katemn, Nov 21, 2011

I am new to Mayo online .. I was hoping to find others with .. MYCOBACTERIUM AVIUM COMPLEX PULMONARY DISEASE (MAC/MAI) and/or BRONCHIECTASIS. I found only 1 thread on mycobacterium accidently under the catagory "Lungs". I'm hoping by starting a subject matter directly related to MYCOBACTERIUM AVIUM COMPLEX PULMONARY DISEASE (MAC/MAI) I may find others out there!

I was diagnosed by a sputum culture August 2007 (but the culture result was accidentally misfiled until 2008!) with MYCOBACTERIUM AVIUM COMPLEX PULMONARY DISEASE (MAC/MAI) and BRONCHIECTASIS. I am now on 5 antibiotics. Working with Dr. Timothy Aksamit at Rochester Mayo Clinic .. he is a saint to have put up with me this long! I was terrified of the treatment . started the first antibiotic September 3, 2011 ... am now on all 5 antibiotics for 18 mos to 2 years. Am delighted at the very bearable side effects!

I wrote on the 1 thread I found: If you google NON-TUBERCULOUS MYCOBACTERIUM AVIUM COMPLEX PULMONARY DISEASE (MAC/MAI) you will learn a LOT about the disease. But PLEASE do NOT get scared about all the things you read .. that is what I did and nearly refused to do the treatment until after a 2nd Micomacterium was discovered! Educate yourself for "due diligence" .. but take it all with a grain of salt .. you are NOT necessarily going to have all the terrible side effects of the antibiotics! Good luck to you!

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January 2017 Update

One of our great Connect Members .. @Paula_MAC2007  .. had a wonderfully helpful idea that I wanted to share! Her idea .. as you read through the pages to gather information on our shared disease of MAC you can develop a personal "file cabinet" for future reference without the necessity of reading all the pages again!

If you have the "MS Word" program on your computer:
- Document Title Example:  Mayo Clinic Connect MAI/MAC Information
- Then develop different categories that make sense to you such as:  Heath Aids .. Videos .. Healthy Living .. Positive Thinking .. Baseline Testing and Regular Testing .. Antibiotics ..
Tips for
- As you read the pages .. copy/paste/save things of interest into that MS Word document under your preferred categories for future reference.

Then as you want to refer back to something in the future .. YEAH!  You have now created your own personal "file cabinet" on MAC/MAI!  Go to it!

Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the MAC & Bronchiectasis Support Group.

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Terri Martin, Volunteer Mentor | @windwalker | Feb 20, 2017
In reply to @katemn "Joined: Feb 13, 2017 Posted by @21042, 13 minutes ago I talked to my pulmonologist on..." + (show)
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Joined: Feb 13, 2017 Posted by @21042, 13 minutes ago
I talked to my pulmonologist on Tues. and i brought up probiotics to her. She said these three antibiotics do not attack the good bacteria in the gut, that they only work for nothing but mac. Did your doctor recommend them? Im so confused. She said they would do nothing. I have been so sick today. An hour after i took my meds last night i vomited it all up and have been sick since. The first day i took all the meds at 9:00 pm. and went to bed. I did fine. I ate at 6:00 pm. Ive never had anything make me so ill. Im so nauseated i cant eat, but i know i cant continue not eating. Also my dr. gave me Ondansetron 4mg. for nausea. Doesnt help a bit.
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@21042 .. Kathi I think you can already tell I am a pretty straight shooter .. I tell it like it is .. so here goes. Your doctor is NUTS .. AND poorly informed!! You can tell her that Dr. Timothy Aksamit at Mayo Clinic, Rochester MN .. a worldwide respected EXPERT on MAC told ME to start on probiotics the FIRST time he started me on antibiotics! Plus if you read through the pages of our Forum you will read how much probiotics are helping our other members. Kathi, do what feels right for you and your body .. BUT I just wonder how many MAC patients your Pulmonologists has treated in the past 12 months?? Sorry, but she just doesn't seem up to speed enough to help you to your best self.

Please re read the above message from Posted by @pamelasc1, 3 days ago .. might that help you? I feel so bad for you .. BUT do NOT give up .. it is so tough in the beginning but it DOES get better .. just put one foot in front in front of the other. We will all be here for you. I am answering you an the Main MAC Forum .. I want you to get more support from more of our wonderful members! I am sending you a BIG Hug! Katherine

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<br><br><br><br><br>Linda, I understand your dilemma. I am thinking of Air B&B a whole <br>house and perhaps others go in on it too. Terri M.<br> <br><br>

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Terri Martin, Volunteer Mentor | @windwalker | Feb 20, 2017
In reply to @katemn "@jentaylor Hi Jen, I think this is just so great! You will come back to our..." + (show)
@katemn

@jentaylor Hi Jen, I think this is just so great! You will come back to our Forum with all kinds of notes and information to share! Can't wait to hear all about it .. but I will be a proud Grammy watching my final little one walk across that stage getting her college diploma! Both wonderful events! Keep good notes to share! Hugs! Katherine

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<br><br><br><br><br>Just wanted to let you know that your hero Dr. Askamit is one of the guest <br>speakers.<br> <br><br>

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Terri Martin, Volunteer Mentor | @windwalker | Feb 20, 2017
In reply to @katemn "@jentaylor Hi Jen, I think this is just so great! You will come back to our..." + (show)
@katemn

@jentaylor Hi Jen, I think this is just so great! You will come back to our Forum with all kinds of notes and information to share! Can't wait to hear all about it .. but I will be a proud Grammy watching my final little one walk across that stage getting her college diploma! Both wonderful events! Keep good notes to share! Hugs! Katherine

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<br><br><br><br><br>Congrats on your granddaughter's graduation!<br> <br><br>

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Terri Martin, Volunteer Mentor | @windwalker | Feb 20, 2017
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Hi all, this is the very first time I've ever joined an online discussion group & I have no idea if I'm doing it correctly! I'll give it a try though. I'm 42 & have had a rare, undiagnosed lung disease since 2007. I've been to great doctors & hospitals & yet no answers. I also have immunodeficiency & get IVIG every 2 weeks. Then to add to all of this, a bonchcoscopy/washings came back positive for MAC (& Aspergillis but probably in my nose). And the most recent Lung CT scan showed the bronchiectasis. So for the past 6 months we have been trying to decide on whether to start treatment because I'm already on 28 daily meds (with a total of 46 including my PRN's). I'm not an easy case & we really wanted to weigh all measures before proceeding with treatment due to the high risk for side effects. We had our appointment yesterday & decided to start today! I'm very nervous! I was online looking for info that I hadn't yet come upon & found this chat/discussion/forum. I'm hoping to find some information but also some support. I feel so alone with this right now, so reading your entries is somehow comforting knowing I'm not the only one. It's another big bump along my health journey & lung dysfunction. Very frustrating & scary to me. I'm overwhelmed. I feel like others don't understand but at least here, I know that you can relate. So thank you for being there!

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<br><br><br><br><br>Hello Jen! That is a good price on airline tickets. If you decide to drive, <br>my home is open as a stopover for those traveling to the Mayo. It would break up <br>the long trip plus comradery. I live 2 1/2 hrs from the Jacksonville Clinic (in <br>Hilton Head S.C) Medicare does pick up 80% of the bill. (I don't know if that <br>varies from state to state). You can pay on a payment plan as well. Please do <br>not let cost stop you from getting good care. Terri M.<br> <br><br>

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Terri Martin, Volunteer Mentor | @windwalker | Feb 20, 2017
In reply to @katemn "@pfists So glad you found our Forum, you have had a tough time of it! You..." + (show)
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@pfists So glad you found our Forum, you have had a tough time of it! You are SO lucky to have gotten an appointment with Dr. Aksamit at Mayo Clinic .. he is just wonderful .. you are going to love him .. you will be in good hands! I also had MAC abscesses and Bronchiectasis .. he will know just what to do! I would encourage you to read the past pages of our Forum .. you will learn SO much about our shared disease .. meet some really wonderful and supportive people! We are all this same shared journey together. Hugs to you! Katherine

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<br><br><br><br><br>Hi Katherine, I wonder if Dr. Askamit would treat me any differently than <br>my Dr at the Jax Mayo. Will have to discuss with my dr when I see him in June. <br>-Terri M.<br> <br><br>

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Terri Martin, Volunteer Mentor | @windwalker | Feb 20, 2017
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I was told no .. BUT I always felt that my lungs were weakened by a serious bout with pneumonia in 2003. I was seriously ill for three months .. put on five rounds of antibiotics .. 3 rounds of steroids by my internist. NOT ONCE was my sputum cultured to see which antibiotic was effective against whatever bacteria was affecting me! At that point I was not educated to the point of DEMANDING a culture .. too little to late. I was SO ill! Finally was diagnosed with MAI/MAC in 2007 via a sputum culture.

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<br><br><br><br><br>Amazing how many drs will treat without a sputem culture. I went 15 yrs <br>with lung illness before I was given a sputem test!! I didn't know to ask for <br>one either. That was before internet,<br> <br><br>

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Terri Martin, Volunteer Mentor | @windwalker | Feb 20, 2017
In reply to @katemn "@128128terry11t Terry, OH what a tough time you have had! But I am SO glad you..." + (show)
@katemn

@128128terry11t Terry, OH what a tough time you have had! But I am SO glad you have found us! Please do stay on this Forum .. you will find such kind supportive people .. PLUS if you take the time to read the past pages you will find a wealth of information on just how to handle the antibiotics .. potential side effects .. just plain healthy living and positive thinking! We are all on this same journey .. gathered together to help each other. I would PLEASE advise you NOT to "private message" .. by each of us sharing our fears .. symptoms .. ideas .. tips .. just thoughts even .. we help each other on our shared journey. Gathered together we strengthen each other .. as it has been said 'The whole is greater than the sum of its parts.' .

Be SURE to take your Rifampin FIRST thing in the morning on an EMPTY stomach .. it is notorious for sleep disturbance. You should have been told that in my opinion! As you read through the pages you will read that! You will also read about the various baseline testing you should have ASAP.

I also have Bronchiectasis .. cough up blood periodically. The first time I spoke of this to my beloved Dr. Aksamit of Mayo Clinic, Rochester MN .. he did not seem in the least concerned .. just asked me the quantity .. if fresh .. darker .. clots? Since it has never been in excess of perhaps 1/2 tsp in total fresh blood .. an occasional blood clot .. only darker blood later on as I cough up the last of it .. he has never been concerned. SO .. if your coughed up blood is within these parameters .. do NOT be afraid .. it is just a part of Bronchiectasis!

As I just mention to another Forum member: (RIFAMPIN INTERFERS WITH LIVER ABSORBSON OF SYNTHROID) .. so be aware of this if you take that med .. you may have to increase your Synthroid. Keep getting it checked. Frequently need to increase 25mg. Also make SURE you do NOT get a generic .. name brand only .. generics can vary!

You need NOT feel desperate .. we are here for you .. gathered together to help you through this tough time. Sending you a BIG Hug! Katherine

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<br><br><br><br><br>Same here Terry!<br> <br><br>

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Terri Martin, Volunteer Mentor | @windwalker | Feb 20, 2017
In reply to @katemn "@128128terry11t Terry, OH what a tough time you have had! But I am SO glad you..." + (show)
@katemn

@128128terry11t Terry, OH what a tough time you have had! But I am SO glad you have found us! Please do stay on this Forum .. you will find such kind supportive people .. PLUS if you take the time to read the past pages you will find a wealth of information on just how to handle the antibiotics .. potential side effects .. just plain healthy living and positive thinking! We are all on this same journey .. gathered together to help each other. I would PLEASE advise you NOT to "private message" .. by each of us sharing our fears .. symptoms .. ideas .. tips .. just thoughts even .. we help each other on our shared journey. Gathered together we strengthen each other .. as it has been said 'The whole is greater than the sum of its parts.' .

Be SURE to take your Rifampin FIRST thing in the morning on an EMPTY stomach .. it is notorious for sleep disturbance. You should have been told that in my opinion! As you read through the pages you will read that! You will also read about the various baseline testing you should have ASAP.

I also have Bronchiectasis .. cough up blood periodically. The first time I spoke of this to my beloved Dr. Aksamit of Mayo Clinic, Rochester MN .. he did not seem in the least concerned .. just asked me the quantity .. if fresh .. darker .. clots? Since it has never been in excess of perhaps 1/2 tsp in total fresh blood .. an occasional blood clot .. only darker blood later on as I cough up the last of it .. he has never been concerned. SO .. if your coughed up blood is within these parameters .. do NOT be afraid .. it is just a part of Bronchiectasis!

As I just mention to another Forum member: (RIFAMPIN INTERFERS WITH LIVER ABSORBSON OF SYNTHROID) .. so be aware of this if you take that med .. you may have to increase your Synthroid. Keep getting it checked. Frequently need to increase 25mg. Also make SURE you do NOT get a generic .. name brand only .. generics can vary!

You need NOT feel desperate .. we are here for you .. gathered together to help you through this tough time. Sending you a BIG Hug! Katherine

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<br><br><br><br><br>David, I think most of us on this forum has both. You are in the right <br>place. -Terri M.<br> <br><br>

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Terri Martin, Volunteer Mentor | @windwalker | Feb 20, 2017
In reply to @katemn "@128128terry11t Terry, OH what a tough time you have had! But I am SO glad you..." + (show)
@katemn

@128128terry11t Terry, OH what a tough time you have had! But I am SO glad you have found us! Please do stay on this Forum .. you will find such kind supportive people .. PLUS if you take the time to read the past pages you will find a wealth of information on just how to handle the antibiotics .. potential side effects .. just plain healthy living and positive thinking! We are all on this same journey .. gathered together to help each other. I would PLEASE advise you NOT to "private message" .. by each of us sharing our fears .. symptoms .. ideas .. tips .. just thoughts even .. we help each other on our shared journey. Gathered together we strengthen each other .. as it has been said 'The whole is greater than the sum of its parts.' .

Be SURE to take your Rifampin FIRST thing in the morning on an EMPTY stomach .. it is notorious for sleep disturbance. You should have been told that in my opinion! As you read through the pages you will read that! You will also read about the various baseline testing you should have ASAP.

I also have Bronchiectasis .. cough up blood periodically. The first time I spoke of this to my beloved Dr. Aksamit of Mayo Clinic, Rochester MN .. he did not seem in the least concerned .. just asked me the quantity .. if fresh .. darker .. clots? Since it has never been in excess of perhaps 1/2 tsp in total fresh blood .. an occasional blood clot .. only darker blood later on as I cough up the last of it .. he has never been concerned. SO .. if your coughed up blood is within these parameters .. do NOT be afraid .. it is just a part of Bronchiectasis!

As I just mention to another Forum member: (RIFAMPIN INTERFERS WITH LIVER ABSORBSON OF SYNTHROID) .. so be aware of this if you take that med .. you may have to increase your Synthroid. Keep getting it checked. Frequently need to increase 25mg. Also make SURE you do NOT get a generic .. name brand only .. generics can vary!

You need NOT feel desperate .. we are here for you .. gathered together to help you through this tough time. Sending you a BIG Hug! Katherine

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<br><br><br><br><br>Strange, but a whole weeks worth of emails from this site from the first <br>week in Jan, suddenly appeared on my computer. I apologize for not responding <br>sooner, Terry. I hope you are doing so much better these days. Hugs -Terri <br>M.<br> <br> <br><br>

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Katherine, Alumni Mentor | @katemn | Feb 20, 2017
In reply to @katemn "@jentaylor Hi Jen, I think this is just so great! You will come back to our..." + (show)
@katemn

@jentaylor Hi Jen, I think this is just so great! You will come back to our Forum with all kinds of notes and information to share! Can't wait to hear all about it .. but I will be a proud Grammy watching my final little one walk across that stage getting her college diploma! Both wonderful events! Keep good notes to share! Hugs! Katherine

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@windwalker, Terri .. and all, you may see Dr Aksamit in person but I doubt you can possibly feel his tremendous personal caring and warmth from the podium .. I feel it in his hugs .. just love that man! If anyone gets a chance to see him personally or chat with him .. you can tell him PERSOALLY that your "Mayo Clinic Connect Mentor Katherine" thinks he "walks on water" .. AND that she is only missing this event because of her granddaughter's college graduation! I think he will get a chuckle out of that! Hugs to all! Katherine

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