Erosive Osteoarthritis

@parrotqueen thanks for the tip, I would like to try it. I just had back fusion on my lumbar and I think after 3 1/2 weeks that it is going to be successful. I am very hopeful, but I also have a lot of arthritis pain particularly in my hands. I also overdid the nsaids and I can’t take them anymore. Can you tell me do you buy yours at a health food store or over the Internet? Does it cause you any stomach indigestion? I find taking calcium and some vitamins really upset my stomach.

Here is more information about boron from evidence-based sources.

– Brains, Bones, and Boron https://www.healthline.com/health/brains-bones-boron
"While boron supplements have been considered as a possible treatment for people with arthritis, more clinical evidence is needed to support this claim.
Boron is considered safe for most people, but large amounts can be harmful. There also isn’t data regarding a safe level for children younger than 1 year old. Its safety hasn’t been studied in pregnant women.
It’s important that you talk with your doctor before taking supplements. It’s unlikely that boron supplements are necessary. Most experts recommend increasing intake through dietary sources like fruits and vegetables before considering supplements.
If you don’t want to take additional boron supplements, eating foods that contain boron, like prunes, raisins, dried apricots, or avocados, can help increase boron levels."

– NIH Medline Plus: Boron https://medlineplus.gov/druginfo/natural/894.html
"When taken by mouth: Boron is LIKELY SAFE when taken by mouth in doses that don't exceed 20 mg per day. Boron is POSSIBLY UNSAFE when taken by mouth in higher doses. There is some concern that doses over 20 mg per day might harm a man's ability to father a child. Large quantities of boron can also cause poisoning. Signs of poisoning include skin inflammation and peeling, irritability, tremors, convulsions, weakness, headaches, depression, diarrhea, vomiting, and other symptoms."
"Hormone-sensitive condition such as breast cancer, uterine cancer, ovarian cancer, endometriosis, or uterine fibroids: Boron might act like estrogen. If you have any condition that might be made worse by exposure to estrogen, avoid supplemental boron or high amounts of boron from foods."

- HIN Boron Factsheet for Consumers https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Boron-Consumer/
- NIH Boron Factsheet for Professionals https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Boron-HealthProfessional/

The last 2 articles also include links to other useful related articles. Luckily, I eat prunes for digestive reasons (a-hem: helps keep me regular) and I love avocados. I'm confident that I'm getting enough dietary boron.

Here is more information about boron from evidence-based sources.

– Brains, Bones, and Boron https://www.healthline.com/health/brains-bones-boron
"While boron supplements have been considered as a possible treatment for people with arthritis, more clinical evidence is needed to support this claim.
Boron is considered safe for most people, but large amounts can be harmful. There also isn’t data regarding a safe level for children younger than 1 year old. Its safety hasn’t been studied in pregnant women.
It’s important that you talk with your doctor before taking supplements. It’s unlikely that boron supplements are necessary. Most experts recommend increasing intake through dietary sources like fruits and vegetables before considering supplements.
If you don’t want to take additional boron supplements, eating foods that contain boron, like prunes, raisins, dried apricots, or avocados, can help increase boron levels."

– NIH Medline Plus: Boron https://medlineplus.gov/druginfo/natural/894.html
"When taken by mouth: Boron is LIKELY SAFE when taken by mouth in doses that don't exceed 20 mg per day. Boron is POSSIBLY UNSAFE when taken by mouth in higher doses. There is some concern that doses over 20 mg per day might harm a man's ability to father a child. Large quantities of boron can also cause poisoning. Signs of poisoning include skin inflammation and peeling, irritability, tremors, convulsions, weakness, headaches, depression, diarrhea, vomiting, and other symptoms."
"Hormone-sensitive condition such as breast cancer, uterine cancer, ovarian cancer, endometriosis, or uterine fibroids: Boron might act like estrogen. If you have any condition that might be made worse by exposure to estrogen, avoid supplemental boron or high amounts of boron from foods."

- HIN Boron Factsheet for Consumers https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Boron-Consumer/
- NIH Boron Factsheet for Professionals https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Boron-HealthProfessional/

The last 2 articles also include links to other useful related articles. Luckily, I eat prunes for digestive reasons (a-hem: helps keep me regular) and I love avocados. I'm confident that I'm getting enough dietary boron.

Yes I have major back pain too and again the pain clinic just puts shot's in there and/or a an ablation on the nerves.

@parrotqueen thanks for the tip, I would like to try it. I just had back fusion on my lumbar and I think after 3 1/2 weeks that it is going to be successful. I am very hopeful, but I also have a lot of arthritis pain particularly in my hands. I also overdid the nsaids and I can’t take them anymore. Can you tell me do you buy yours at a health food store or over the Internet? Does it cause you any stomach indigestion? I find taking calcium and some vitamins really upset my stomach.

was the post surgery very painful ?

This all sounds so painful. I have osteoporosis arthritis just about everywhere in my body but my hands have been the latest part ive added to the list. I have trigger fingers on both hands ; mainly the middle and ring fingers and now the thumbs. I’ve been seeing and orthopedic hand surgeon who wants to open those trigger points in my hands basically by the base of those fingers. I’m a tad worrisome about that surgery since I haven’t heard anything about it previously. I just found out that the other knuckle problems in my hands typically the middle knuckle in my thumbs and fingers do not have any repairs or meds to help them. I do take celebrex once an evening for overall degenerative disc and knee problems.
I’d be interested to hear if anyone has any. 1. Insights on the trigger finger surgery and 2. Help with the degenerative knuckle osteoarthritis. Good luck with your erosive arthritis. Prayers.

I got that done on my thumbs and it worked brilliantly - nothing to it really. Please do not go hog wild with shots of cortisone into your fingers - it eats the bone up. The BEST thing I have found for arthritis - particularly in my hands - is boron. Boron is a trace mineral and I've been doing a lot of research on it. I've been taking it a little over two years for osteoporosis - but it took ALL of my arthritis pain away! If I feel any pain, I just pop another one. But basically I take 6 mg at breakfast, 6 mg at lunch, 6 mg at dinner, and 6 mg before I go to sleep. You can get it from raisins and prunes and other foods (you can do a search for this) - this is why Ruth Bader Ginsburg ate prunes all the time. You just cannot get enough from prunes to do much good. The upper limit for boron has been set at 20 mg/day - but I have spoken to hundreds of people who are taking 120 mg/day, and they have been taking that dose for years and years (EDS, osteoporosis and arthritis are the main reasons for taking boron). It is hard to find good research about boron - I was able to find some at the NIH (National Institute for Health). Doctors don't know anything about boron. My hand surgeon wanted to do extensive surgery on my hands and I was all set to get it - then I discovered boron. There is no way I am having any more arthritis-related surgery now that I have boron. And it is super cheap.
Good luck to you! Arthritis really hurts - I used to cry myself to sleep with my hands just hurting so bad. Now I can crochet and play piano again. A nutritionist might be able to tell you about boron. It is really hard to find anything about it - and yet people have been using it for hundreds of years for arthritis. This is my third winter without pain and I LOVE it!