Heart Disease: Let’s Talk About the Emotional Side

Recovery from a cardiovascular event is not easy; it’s not just the physical pain–the emotional pain can be an unexpected challenge. Depression, anxiety, fatigue, feelings of guilt, emotional distress are common repercussions of heart disease, heart attacks, heart failure or heart surgery.

Talking with people who’ve gone through a similar experience can help make sense of the emotional and psychological aspects of heart disease. Connect is a place where such honest conversations can safely take place, where you can learn to feel better, together. I invite you to share your thoughts and emotions.
How has a heart-related diagnosis/treatment affected your mind and mood? How did you cope with these emotions? What strategies and tips would you offer a friend who’s going through a similar experience?

Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the Heart & Blood Health Support Group.

@oldkarl

About cardiac issues. Probably about 98% of those reported are traceable to Genetic patterns, at least in part. I happen to have about 10 active genes which touch on the heart. So that is the first thing one should arrange at the first real sign of cardiac problems. Most of the good sequencers are now charging less than $400 for a good screening of the whole genome. And it is very simple. Also, various scans are very helpful, especially echocardiography, which is the easiest ant perhaps the best for many cardiac issues. And finally, a very good test is simple. "How do you feel?" Pain in the middle of your chest? does the top of your head get cold? Do you feel your heart pounding or fluttering or stuttering? How does your O2 level read at various places around your body--toes, fingers, ears, nose, tongue. Finally, af the local doc says you don't have any problems, you probably have a pile of them. And almost every person has some heart problem. Cardiomegaly, etc.

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@oldkarl You've provided some interesting information, especially about genetic patterns.

Could you share a bit more about how you went about getting a screening of the whole genome? For example, where did you get the information, who did you contact, was your doctor's approval needed, did insurance cover any of the cost, etc.?

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@oldkarl- Nice to see your post again. Have missed them Karl!. When you mention getting a good screening of the whole genome such as a Echocardiography, do I need to request this in addition to say having an Echo? I'm tentatively scheduled to have another Echo in 2 months after bringing my Lisinopril up to 40 mg. over this past year. Thanks much! Jim@thankful

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@hopeful33250

@oldkarl You've provided some interesting information, especially about genetic patterns.

Could you share a bit more about how you went about getting a screening of the whole genome? For example, where did you get the information, who did you contact, was your doctor's approval needed, did insurance cover any of the cost, etc.?

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@oldkarl- Ditto as per @hopeful33250 Jim@thankful

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@thankful

@oldkarl- Nice to see your post again. Have missed them Karl!. When you mention getting a good screening of the whole genome such as a Echocardiography, do I need to request this in addition to say having an Echo? I'm tentatively scheduled to have another Echo in 2 months after bringing my Lisinopril up to 40 mg. over this past year. Thanks much! Jim@thankful

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I’m using a cocktail of Lisinopril, Amlodipine, Carvelidol, to keep my blood pressure low. Please research how these meds works and ask your cardiologist. Inflammation in the arteries is another cause of high blood pressure and plaque creation. Ask for a test. Most Drs. uses the Framingham study results to compare your various lab results. This study is from the 1960’s and many things have changed since. Never be happy to be in the high end of the test limits, I rather be in the low end. Cardiologist make money when they intervene when you have a heart attack not when they do prevention. Just my opinion. Research, research. Good luck

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For those with high blood pressure that has been difficult to control, you might consider taking Vitamin D3. My sister has struggled to control her BP and started taking Vit D3, 4000 iu each day which she had read helps fight covid infections. Her blood pressure came down to normal. She mentioned it to her cardio who said there is anecdotal evidence that Vit D does help control blood pressure but no studies have been done as the drug companies don't make any money on such a study. She did say that 4000 iu per day is OK for the short term but to bring it down to 2000 iu in March. 2021 which will be 4 months at that higher dosage.

Seems an easy experiment to try. Results should be almost immediate.

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@kanaazpereira

Heart problems, the emotional ongoing uncertainty of it....the unpredictability of it....the theories and lack of empathy...in my case now.... Cardiologists, meaning well, but dismissive with regards to ongoing Ectopic PVC’s and PAC’s and try not to stress....Vagus Nerve, or could be collaterals not working as well....RCA system, aging body....it all adds to emotional stress, so, you either have to be darn good at TM, or be well tolerated with regards to an anti depressive, or an anxiety agent....but very good topic...

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@scottij

I was fit, a taut 160 lbs, exercised daily, no smoking or drugs, no alcohol and was diagnosed with Stage IV heart failure in April of 2019. I was told I needed emergency valve surgery to keep me alive and a likely heart transplant in subsequent years. The valve surgery provided a temporary bump in health, followed by a six month decline and a referral to the Mayo Heart Transplant team in Phoenix in November of 2019. I made the list and received my new heart on December 30, 2019. So I have had my share of surprise diagnoses, severe surgeries, and dark nights, I remember when "they" told me I had a failed heart and needed surgery to stay alive. I turned to my wife with a tear in my eye and said, "This was not part of the f'n plan!" She, who never swears, grabbed my hand and calmly said, "Then we change the f'n plan." That said, I side with a previous respondent who experienced no depression but a sense of awe. I was raised in a household where complaining was not allowed. Problems were confronted with a plan and you were expected to take action. I chose to replace any negative emotion with a positive. Grief became gratitude. Anger became action.

I admit that not being able to sleep under the graces of prednisone gave me pause in the depths of the night. I often asked "Why", but I never asked "Why me?" That begged of self-pity and my parents would have come back to haunt me. I could hear my Dad saying, "So your heart failed, what are you going to do about it?"

I found that my music helped immensely. I got the Led out -- Led Zeppelin for the uninitiated. I sampled favorite motivational songs: Life is a Highway (Tom Cochrane), Eye of the Tiger (Katy Perry) I know, I know; Led Zeppelin and Katy Perry??? And yet I always came back to Invictus and the closing stanza of that great poem.

It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate.
I am the captain of my soul.

Best always,
s!
Scott Jensen

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Scott, your attitude is awesome. Glad your parents voices kicked in. Glad wife’s attitude helped. Glad Led Zeppelin helped. Glad you got the transplant. Wow. Do you know what caused your heart issues or what the issues were while seeming healthy?

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@feelingthankful

Scott, your attitude is awesome. Glad your parents voices kicked in. Glad wife’s attitude helped. Glad Led Zeppelin helped. Glad you got the transplant. Wow. Do you know what caused your heart issues or what the issues were while seeming healthy?

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@feelingthankful Thank you for the vote of confidence. It was one year ago today that I got the call to come to Phoenix for the new heart. We still have no idea what caused my heart failure. The pathology on the old heart indicated that there was nothing inherent or present to create the same failure conditions for the new heart so that is good news. It certainly was not genetic. Dad died of Parkinson's at 89 and Mom died of liver cancer at 88. Most tests had a medical note at the end of the documentation: NOS. I thought it meant no observable source but it actually means not otherwise specified. In any case we still don't know why it happened. Still hear my Dad every morning when it comes time to exercise. "So you had a heart transplant. You want a medal? Get in the gym and work up a sweat." LOL
Best always,
s!

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@scottij

@feelingthankful Thank you for the vote of confidence. It was one year ago today that I got the call to come to Phoenix for the new heart. We still have no idea what caused my heart failure. The pathology on the old heart indicated that there was nothing inherent or present to create the same failure conditions for the new heart so that is good news. It certainly was not genetic. Dad died of Parkinson's at 89 and Mom died of liver cancer at 88. Most tests had a medical note at the end of the documentation: NOS. I thought it meant no observable source but it actually means not otherwise specified. In any case we still don't know why it happened. Still hear my Dad every morning when it comes time to exercise. "So you had a heart transplant. You want a medal? Get in the gym and work up a sweat." LOL
Best always,
s!

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Happy anniversary, Scott! You deserve a medal!

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@estrada53

Happy anniversary, Scott! You deserve a medal!

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@estrada53 Awww. Grazie!

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