COVID-19 Coronavirus and Lung Health: What can you do?

Posted by Merry, Alumni Mentor @merpreb, Mar 1, 2020

Good morning- I have hesitated to post anything about this new and dangerous group of viruses because I am certainly not qualified to discuss any science. And certainly not about genetics and viruses. But I can discuss how we can lessen our fears, be as prepared as we can and very simply if we get it, what do we do?

First of all the COVID-19 is the name for many similar viruses. It's not just one. It is believed to have started by bat guana in Wuhan, China. Wuhan is the very large capital of Central China’s Hubei province. It is a commercial center divided by the Yangtze and Han rivers. This virus spread very quickly, perhaps like the flu. And because of travel. it is spreading throughout the world, and it is here in America. This is a group of very dangerous viruses has the potential to kill and has. Many of us with breathing problems must be very diligent to protect ourselves as much as we can.

You can help protect yourself by doing these things:

Keep your hands clean. Avoid touching your eyes, nose, and mouth. Cover your cough and sneezes to keep germs from spreading to others. Clean and disinfect high-touch surfaces routinely. Avoid close contact with people who are sick. Stay home when you are sick.

If you have these symptoms please see a doctor: Fever, Cough, Shortness of breath

I know that a lot of us have at least two of these symptoms already. So if your shortness of breath or your coughs become worse and you feel ill then it is time to seek medical help.

Here are several sites that have addressed the Coronavirus for more information.

If you know of anyone who is ill please stay away from them. Passing along the facts about this group of viruses is the best that you can do to help others avoid getting ill.

Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the Post-COVID Recovery & COVID-19 Support Group.

@spudmato

This infectious lung disease group has become quite noisy. The din is overwhelming, and has strayed from the original personal approach to helping each of in our search for answers related to our issues. IN ADDITION IS WAS EVER SUPPORTIVE. Now it is a platform featuring personal opinions, and overkill of repeated information. What we need to know has been published by the credentialed outlets on a page or two.
Properly wash you hands.
STAY HOME IF YOUR ILL, AND CALL YOUR DOCTOR.
Practice social distancing
Disinfect
Be both good and lucky.
Sorry for the change.
I enjoyed the trip for a while, learned a bit about my issues, but monopolizers are a bit hard of hearing so they need to talk loudly, and often.
Goodbye and good luck.

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With the threat of the unknown and authorities telling us to stay home, distance yourself from others, it can be very isolating. I for one am grateful that we have this social network, Mayo Clinic Connect, to stay connected and help alleviate the social isolation.

What are you doing to keep yourself healthy and occupied?

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Good morning- The result of COVID-19 in the lungs is from the air we breathe in causing pneumonia and lung damage. Some people are lucky to only get a mild case, some others not so much.
Here is a little about how pneumonia wks.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/pneumonia/symptoms-causes/syc-20354204
Here is another great explanation: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/03/11/science/how-coronavirus-hijacks-your-cells.html

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@colleenyoung changed the name of our discussion. It asks the question, "What can you do?" Now that COVID-19 is in my small town I have self-isolated myself. My husband does the shopping and any errands that are necessary. After he comes home we vacuum and spray counters with homemade hand sanitizer or Clorox cloths. Any grocery bags are placed on newspapers and then the newspapers are thrown out. We vacuum because droplets are heavier than air and can be trapped in dirt. Dave sprays his hands as soon as he's back in the car, after stowing the groceries and then washes them when he comes inside. This is the only "socialization" that he does. So, what can you do? What are you doing?

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@merpreb

@colleenyoung changed the name of our discussion. It asks the question, "What can you do?" Now that COVID-19 is in my small town I have self-isolated myself. My husband does the shopping and any errands that are necessary. After he comes home we vacuum and spray counters with homemade hand sanitizer or Clorox cloths. Any grocery bags are placed on newspapers and then the newspapers are thrown out. We vacuum because droplets are heavier than air and can be trapped in dirt. Dave sprays his hands as soon as he's back in the car, after stowing the groceries and then washes them when he comes inside. This is the only "socialization" that he does. So, what can you do? What are you doing?

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@merpreb I'm doing pretty much the same as your husband. I go out to do the grocery shopping.
It's impossible to find sanitizing cloths anywhere but I saw a suggestion somewhere that said to buy baby wipes and pour alcohol in the package. I think that sounds fairly logical and like it should work but I did not get it from what I would consider a reputable source. I put some lysol spray on paper towels and put them in zip lock bags to bring with me.
JK

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@contentandwell

@merpreb I'm doing pretty much the same as your husband. I go out to do the grocery shopping.
It's impossible to find sanitizing cloths anywhere but I saw a suggestion somewhere that said to buy baby wipes and pour alcohol in the package. I think that sounds fairly logical and like it should work but I did not get it from what I would consider a reputable source. I put some lysol spray on paper towels and put them in zip lock bags to bring with me.
JK

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Another possibility is CPAP wipes if you can find them.

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@johnbishop

Another possibility is CPAP wipes if you can find them.

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@johnbishop Do they have alcohol on them? Are they just called CPAP wipes?
JK

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@contentandwell

@johnbishop Do they have alcohol on them? Are they just called CPAP wipes?
JK

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I think most do not have alcohol but are just used to clean organic materials from the surface so probably wouldn’t work in this case 🙁

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this reply is for the general Mayo public and no one specifically. I apologize upfront for any offense I will cause in stating my passionate.beliefs. I'm 65 with stage 3 COPD. Therefore, I'm one of the enhanced risk of death people (from the coronavirus) virus. Nonetheless, I believe that our fear of contagion and serious health consequences, has resulted in unjustified and substantial damage to the majority of our population, specifically the younger (under 50) healthy population. Our fear however justified, (of contagion) has resulted in the following: shutting down many privately owned businesses throughout the country. It has resulted in the loss of employment for millions of young working people, many have young children to support. It has resulted in the loss of 30% of the wealth of those invested in the stock markets. It will result in hundreds of billions in payouts to various industries to stave off bankruptcies that would probably plunge the country into a depression. And economics aside, It has significantly eroded the quality of life for many younger people by shutting down: night clubs, restaurants, sporting events, schools, concerts, museums, hotels, casinos, health clubs, family gatherings, even ocean front beaches. Is it self-centered to force our younger population to pay that price for our fears? Realize, the chance of dying from the coronavirus is .02% for those 40 and under and .04% for those 40-50.. By comparison, the risk of death for those 20 and under from "regular" influenza is .41%. Therefore, this panic response is not about them but us. And is it a rational response? The, admittedly scant, data concludes casual contact will not result in contagion. Medical experts have consistently stated they either don't believe or have no proof to conclude that just touching surfaces touched by infected people will cause contagion-especially if we practice proper hand cleaning before touching our face. If we are that scared couldn't we choose self-isolation and refuse direct contact with others instead of demanding that all others make substantial quality of life sacrifices? Further, I thought the way a community builds up immunity or resistance to a "novel" virus is through interaction (assuming the virus isn't deadly). Even for the group at enhanced risk, like me, we have the right to live as we did before the virus if we are willing to assume the risks and don't force others to assume those same risks. It is a quality of life issue, and as such as adults we have the obligation to make informed choices. Here, the State has once again made those choices for us. If they are so wise, why didn't they do more to preempt this virus? I appreciate any objective criticisms. I'm biased and therefore, prone to make logical errors in my arguments. And again, I apologize for any appearance of disrespect to anyone on this site.

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@joelars

this reply is for the general Mayo public and no one specifically. I apologize upfront for any offense I will cause in stating my passionate.beliefs. I'm 65 with stage 3 COPD. Therefore, I'm one of the enhanced risk of death people (from the coronavirus) virus. Nonetheless, I believe that our fear of contagion and serious health consequences, has resulted in unjustified and substantial damage to the majority of our population, specifically the younger (under 50) healthy population. Our fear however justified, (of contagion) has resulted in the following: shutting down many privately owned businesses throughout the country. It has resulted in the loss of employment for millions of young working people, many have young children to support. It has resulted in the loss of 30% of the wealth of those invested in the stock markets. It will result in hundreds of billions in payouts to various industries to stave off bankruptcies that would probably plunge the country into a depression. And economics aside, It has significantly eroded the quality of life for many younger people by shutting down: night clubs, restaurants, sporting events, schools, concerts, museums, hotels, casinos, health clubs, family gatherings, even ocean front beaches. Is it self-centered to force our younger population to pay that price for our fears? Realize, the chance of dying from the coronavirus is .02% for those 40 and under and .04% for those 40-50.. By comparison, the risk of death for those 20 and under from "regular" influenza is .41%. Therefore, this panic response is not about them but us. And is it a rational response? The, admittedly scant, data concludes casual contact will not result in contagion. Medical experts have consistently stated they either don't believe or have no proof to conclude that just touching surfaces touched by infected people will cause contagion-especially if we practice proper hand cleaning before touching our face. If we are that scared couldn't we choose self-isolation and refuse direct contact with others instead of demanding that all others make substantial quality of life sacrifices? Further, I thought the way a community builds up immunity or resistance to a "novel" virus is through interaction (assuming the virus isn't deadly). Even for the group at enhanced risk, like me, we have the right to live as we did before the virus if we are willing to assume the risks and don't force others to assume those same risks. It is a quality of life issue, and as such as adults we have the obligation to make informed choices. Here, the State has once again made those choices for us. If they are so wise, why didn't they do more to preempt this virus? I appreciate any objective criticisms. I'm biased and therefore, prone to make logical errors in my arguments. And again, I apologize for any appearance of disrespect to anyone on this site.

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@joelars, I think I can understand why you feel passionate about this, although I will admit that we probably won't agree on the facts of the situation. I have minimal underlying conditions myself, so I suspect that I would survive a case of covid-19 but having had Influenza in the past, I don't relish the thought. I spent last weekend with my 20-something children and they are remarkably calm about this and okay with sacrificing some social life for the common good. Yes, there will be economic impacts to all of this but we have lived through difficult times before and we can get through this. The goal of shutting down public life is to "flatten the curve" of people going into our hospitals so that we don't have a huge surge of patients and run out of bed space or ventilators. In Italy, people are stacked in hallways and doctors are having to decide who gets treated and who does not. If we can slow down the spread of the virus, hopefully we can avoid that happening here and there will be care for everyone who needs it.

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@coloradogirl I agree with you about overcrowding the hospitals, but here's the problem: the forced closures and economic (and social) impacts are life altering even ruinous for many younger people. And consider the impact on their young children? And why? The average enhanced risk person is 65+ and on Medicare or on SSD. They aren't hurt economically, unless it is in the form of co-pays if they do get sick, and most won't.
I just read the latest statistics: 81% of infected people (largely 50 or under) have mild symptoms no worse than a light cold or no symptoms. 13% have more severe symptoms but severe is defined as at home be- ridden with flu like symptoms for maybe 1 week. Only 7% suffer more significant damage-even death-but most of this group is old or immune compromised. I'm questioning whether we are not properly protecting 75% of our population 90+ % of which is under 40. I want them to have the same opportunities I had. I was never quarantined or in a lock-down society even with the swine flu which by all present accounts was worse in terms of symptomology, particularly mortality rates. Why are they treated so differently?

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