New Diagnosis of MAC/MAI & I'm scared

Posted by sueinoregon @sueinoregon, Sep 10, 2018

Hi, I am new to this site. I just got the results of my broncoscopy a week ago. First I was told I had Staph Aureus in my lungs & was put on Levaquin X 10 days. OK, Now she tells me I had MAI & I think the other one is MAC. Anyway, My pulmonologist said we are waiting for the sensitivity test to see if the bacteria in my sputum are sensitive to the antibiotics....or not....since now some strains are resistant. My name is Sue from Oregon and I am 61 years old with Sjogren's Syndrome, Rheumatoid Arthritis, Bronchiectasis, and now THIS. My RA & bronchiectasis are extensive with a lot of coughing and I am on a biologic immunosuppressive drug, infusion, for the RA. I read several posts at this site, looked up the side effects of the 3 meds my pulmonologist said she will put me on, scheduled an eye and hearing exam. This is scarey!!!! I'm already weary of my life having been turned upsidown in the last 4 years with my health struggles. (On SS disability now) I talk with a clinical psychologist every other week & she is helpful. Is it really helpful to talk about it online? Or does it just make one ruminate about it all the more? I'm not sure which it is. Please let me know if it has helped you cope, or not. Thanks.

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@sounder27

Windwalker. The nebulizer machine for the amikacin is different. A little sleeker and smaller. There is no tube attached, but rather the 5 piece assembled “pipe” attaches to the nebulizer with a cord and attachment piece that has an electrical conducting element. The pipe itself has to be specifically assembled for every use. I feel a bit like the caterpillar in Alice in wonderland while I’m puffing away, inhaling, there is a mist that resembles smoke that swirls around as I inhale and exhale into the pipe. There is a bowl of sorts into which the amikacin is poured and then covered with a twist on top. Once the pipe is ready for use the sleek little machine is turned on with the press of a button. It is timed for about 20 minutes or so of inhalation and shuts off automatically when the liquid has been inhaled. After the inhalation process, the pipe is disconnected from the machine and you need to take it apart and carefully wipe each piece before bringing them to the sink to clean. You will need a medium sized bowl that you fill with a few drops of clear dishwashing liquid and hot soapy water. Carefully rinse each piece and put in the soapy bowl for about 5 minutes. Next, rinse each piece again and put them into a pot of boiling distilled water used only for them. Boil for 5 or 6 minutes. Now place each piece on a special lint free towel set on a drying mat and cover with the rest of the towel. Now your pipe is cleaned and ready to assemble for the next use. The metal element piece is replaced with a new one each week and the entire pipe is replaced each month. Those pieces are included in the packaging. The whole ‘shabang’ is delivered monthly in a refrigerated cooler and the packaging needs to be sent back via fedex. The meds have to be refrigerated immediately upon delivery.
I think I included everything in the process. It took me about a week to really learn the order of assembling the pipe and to remember to take the vial of amikacin out of the fridge an hour before use. It has to be room temperature before use. I hope this helps. It is easy for me now and I don’t think about it too much.

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Thanks for posting this. I never learned to use my thumbs for texting but even when not having to type with one finger, it's a long process to describe for those who never used Arikayce. I stopped Arikayce in December but I always felt that, after the cleaning/disinfecting procedure, the parts were as sanitary and safe as possible. I continue to do the whole thing, once a day, every day, for my neb cup and aerobika.

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@rits

Thanks for posting this. I never learned to use my thumbs for texting but even when not having to type with one finger, it's a long process to describe for those who never used Arikayce. I stopped Arikayce in December but I always felt that, after the cleaning/disinfecting procedure, the parts were as sanitary and safe as possible. I continue to do the whole thing, once a day, every day, for my neb cup and aerobika.

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@rits There is no way on God’s green earth I can text with my thumbs. One finger texting for me! And that’s about all that works on me these days. Interesting how so many of us have arthritis. This growing up thing is highly overrated! Why did you stop Arikayce? I was supposed to start two months ago but am on hold because of someone having to come into my home in the beginning. I’m “hoping” to start soon. Thanks. irene5

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Truthfully, I barely gave thumb texting a try. Thumbs are the fattest fingers and I couldn't see using them to type. To this day, I don't know how people do it!

As for Arikayce, I did not fit the protocol but my doctor wanted me on it anyway. I was diagnosed with MAC in Nov 2018, and started the big 2 (bad reaction to rifampin after 2 or 3 doses) in March 2019. My doctor prescribed Arikayce in June although I had less than the 6 months of positive results required. Perhaps the fact that I cannot give up the steroid in Symbicort influenced her decision. Insurance approved it and we were in the process of ordering it when my June sputum sample showed a deadly fungus (mucor). On July 1, I had a bronchoscopy looking for the fungus as well as MAC and neither showed up in the 8 biopsies. MAC also did not show up weeks later in the June specimen. Arikayce had already arrived and the home visit was scheduled so we went ahead. I think my doctor was surprised that the antibiotics, which only work for 40% of patients, worked for me so fast.

After only a few days, Arikayce triggered an exacerbation of my chronic bronchitis and I had to stop. By August, I was breathing better and my doctor told me to try Arikayce again but only 3x a week. I was ok until December when my breathing got really bad again and I stopped.

My July and August samples had also been negative for MAC so I'm due to stop the oral antibiotics in June, the first month of 3 months of negative samples. Sputum samples in October and January were also negative. I have an almost full month's supply of the very expensive Arikayce sitting in my refrigerator since December. My doctor told me not to use it.

When I started it, I was told that the nurse could meet me at the doctor's medical center if I wanted to be there instead of home. I don't know if that would work for you during this crazy time.

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@rits

Truthfully, I barely gave thumb texting a try. Thumbs are the fattest fingers and I couldn't see using them to type. To this day, I don't know how people do it!

As for Arikayce, I did not fit the protocol but my doctor wanted me on it anyway. I was diagnosed with MAC in Nov 2018, and started the big 2 (bad reaction to rifampin after 2 or 3 doses) in March 2019. My doctor prescribed Arikayce in June although I had less than the 6 months of positive results required. Perhaps the fact that I cannot give up the steroid in Symbicort influenced her decision. Insurance approved it and we were in the process of ordering it when my June sputum sample showed a deadly fungus (mucor). On July 1, I had a bronchoscopy looking for the fungus as well as MAC and neither showed up in the 8 biopsies. MAC also did not show up weeks later in the June specimen. Arikayce had already arrived and the home visit was scheduled so we went ahead. I think my doctor was surprised that the antibiotics, which only work for 40% of patients, worked for me so fast.

After only a few days, Arikayce triggered an exacerbation of my chronic bronchitis and I had to stop. By August, I was breathing better and my doctor told me to try Arikayce again but only 3x a week. I was ok until December when my breathing got really bad again and I stopped.

My July and August samples had also been negative for MAC so I'm due to stop the oral antibiotics in June, the first month of 3 months of negative samples. Sputum samples in October and January were also negative. I have an almost full month's supply of the very expensive Arikayce sitting in my refrigerator since December. My doctor told me not to use it.

When I started it, I was told that the nurse could meet me at the doctor's medical center if I wanted to be there instead of home. I don't know if that would work for you during this crazy time.

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Thank you so much for that info. I am encouraged. Rifampin is difficult for me as well. I fit the protocol apparently. I am thrilled your MAC is gone. I would start the Arikayce tomorrow, but just like my kids are Facebook police for each other ( I don’t have Facebook) they are mom’s police as well and want me to wait a bit longer because of contact with anybody. Thank you so much. I appreciate that info. Irene

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@rits

Truthfully, I barely gave thumb texting a try. Thumbs are the fattest fingers and I couldn't see using them to type. To this day, I don't know how people do it!

As for Arikayce, I did not fit the protocol but my doctor wanted me on it anyway. I was diagnosed with MAC in Nov 2018, and started the big 2 (bad reaction to rifampin after 2 or 3 doses) in March 2019. My doctor prescribed Arikayce in June although I had less than the 6 months of positive results required. Perhaps the fact that I cannot give up the steroid in Symbicort influenced her decision. Insurance approved it and we were in the process of ordering it when my June sputum sample showed a deadly fungus (mucor). On July 1, I had a bronchoscopy looking for the fungus as well as MAC and neither showed up in the 8 biopsies. MAC also did not show up weeks later in the June specimen. Arikayce had already arrived and the home visit was scheduled so we went ahead. I think my doctor was surprised that the antibiotics, which only work for 40% of patients, worked for me so fast.

After only a few days, Arikayce triggered an exacerbation of my chronic bronchitis and I had to stop. By August, I was breathing better and my doctor told me to try Arikayce again but only 3x a week. I was ok until December when my breathing got really bad again and I stopped.

My July and August samples had also been negative for MAC so I'm due to stop the oral antibiotics in June, the first month of 3 months of negative samples. Sputum samples in October and January were also negative. I have an almost full month's supply of the very expensive Arikayce sitting in my refrigerator since December. My doctor told me not to use it.

When I started it, I was told that the nurse could meet me at the doctor's medical center if I wanted to be there instead of home. I don't know if that would work for you during this crazy time.

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@rits hi there, your post about Mucor caught my attention. One of my sputum samples returned Mucor a year ago, and the doctor was immediately concerned, but we didn’t pursue anything further since I didn’t have any other symptoms. He is hopeful, and fairly confident it was merely a contaminant. Weird, though, that they did a bronchoscopy on you and tried to go in and find it, and couldn’t. Do you know how many colonies of Mucor you got you cultured?

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The reports that I see don't say how many colonies. They say, few, moderate or many. I don't remember what it said about mucor but I am relieved that it has never shown up again although I have had other fungi appear. I'm glad your mucor was not anything as well. Whew!!!!

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@brigby

@rits hi there, your post about Mucor caught my attention. One of my sputum samples returned Mucor a year ago, and the doctor was immediately concerned, but we didn’t pursue anything further since I didn’t have any other symptoms. He is hopeful, and fairly confident it was merely a contaminant. Weird, though, that they did a bronchoscopy on you and tried to go in and find it, and couldn’t. Do you know how many colonies of Mucor you got you cultured?

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@brigby Hello. I have never heard of mucor. Is that yet another organism that we can contract? I just scrolled down and saw where you posted what that is. I will Google it to learn more about it.

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@irene5

@rits There is no way on God’s green earth I can text with my thumbs. One finger texting for me! And that’s about all that works on me these days. Interesting how so many of us have arthritis. This growing up thing is highly overrated! Why did you stop Arikayce? I was supposed to start two months ago but am on hold because of someone having to come into my home in the beginning. I’m “hoping” to start soon. Thanks. irene5

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Irene, my thumbs are getting totally ruined from using them to text on my phone. I am trying to not get on my phone socially as much as I had been.

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I went off of all antibiotics 2 months ago. I took this initiative myself. I have been on a bi-monthly regimen of ciprofloaxacin since 2013. I was mac free by 2014. I remained on the cipro as a deterrent all these yrs since with no problems. I had noticed that in recent times; it was giving me bad leg and foot cramps. Two months ago when I started on my usual cycle, the cramps were super severe, so I stopped taking it. It used to be that when I finished a med, I could go about 40 days with clear lungs and then they would start getting gummy again and knew it was time to go back on one. So far, my lungs have stayed clear for two months now. I am thinking it could be due to me isolating from the covid-19 and I am not exposing myself to too many strange germs. I do not recommend anybody do what I did. I do have an upcoming appt at Mayo in June and will see what my new dr has to say. Stay safe everyone!

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@windwalker

@brigby Hello. I have never heard of mucor. Is that yet another organism that we can contract? I just scrolled down and saw where you posted what that is. I will Google it to learn more about it.

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@windwalker888 Hi Terri! It’s a particularly deadly fungus.

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