Bone on bone thumbs

Posted by lioness @lioness, Sep 3, 2018

Is anyone suffering with thumbs Ive had this for awhile , Dr would inject the thumb but now my rheumatologist refused so am seeing a orthopedic Dr has anyone else had this problem?

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@cdbell

I have had bone-on-bone in both thumbs with multiple steroid shots for the past three years,but the shots no longer work. Reports on surgical outcomes are varied, even with patients who have found the “best” surgeons. Are their conditions that lead to a better result? A better surgeon? Better OTs? Younger patients? Still Wondering.

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I had both thumbs surgically treated years ago, both are fine now. One was fusing the 2 rubbing bones together with an implanted titanium screw. The other, a tendon was substituted for the offending bone (arthroplasty) and it took a bit longer to rehab. Find an orthopedic surgeon who specializes in hands and get references. I am 76 now. Was in 60's for first one, 70's for second one.

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rlbry, thank you for saying what I needed to hear. Than you for your response. A celebrated Chicago hand surgeon, responding to my x-rays advised that while beyond, braces, salves, heat and cold, and prosthetic devices, surgery was my only option but not necessarily a great one. How long did you spend recovering? And why the two different methods? Of course, I want to find a surgeon who gets it right most of the time.

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Two different surgeons in different towns. Each had preferred method. Was back to full use in about 2 months.

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@pharmd

Seems older posts have disappeared so I'll update my story. I had CMC surgery on right thumb in late October, 2018. I chose the Stablyx implant. I've had a previous implant in left hand in 2009 which has worked great. That implant is not made any longer. I am now able to use my right hand for almost everything! Still doing OT twice weekly. My hand surgeon did 2 dry surgeries before using me as his first patient. I'm glad I did it and I have great confidence in him. Thanks for taking the time to read this.

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I'm bone on bone, wear a brace and I'm having a really hard time performing my duties as a nurse. Since I am currently single I obviously need to work. My ortho wants to do the tendon thingy and assures me a 100% return to mobility but I've heard horror stories about the recovery or lack thereof. I'm hearing good things about this Dr Elhassan at Mayo. Is this where you had your surgery? How about recovery time ? Pain? Thank you in advance

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@nrsinpain

I'm bone on bone, wear a brace and I'm having a really hard time performing my duties as a nurse. Since I am currently single I obviously need to work. My ortho wants to do the tendon thingy and assures me a 100% return to mobility but I've heard horror stories about the recovery or lack thereof. I'm hearing good things about this Dr Elhassan at Mayo. Is this where you had your surgery? How about recovery time ? Pain? Thank you in advance

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My surgeon offered the tendon relocation but I saw several of my Rx patients who were unhappy with the results. Please note my surgeon is in Chicago and I live in a small town in the West. I told him my concerns and since my first implant had been so successful that I preferred the newer implant. And if..a big if...this implant fails for any reason I can still have the tendon relocated. The pain was very tolerable. I did take Rx meds and gradually tapered off to routine acetaminophen. Drawing syringes, adding tubing and similar movements won't be allowed for at least 6 weeks. If I were you I might do my non dominant hand first in any case. If you've heard good things about this particular surgeon I would call his office, set up appointment and get his opinion. You might also ask if any of his operated patients could be contacted (HIPAA preserved of course). From Oct 24 til mid December I obeyed the " no pinching movements" and very gradually increased my use. I can tell you opening my Rx bottles with safety caps was still challenging, these were my personal bottles. It quickly reminded me why both my hands failed after 35+ years in pharmacy. Not sure I would ever be a dispensing pharmacist. But I'm retired so not a problem. Maybe you could ask for light duty after a few weeks of recovery. Hope this helps but probably raised more questions than answers. We're all different so one solution for me may not work for you. Do more homework. Best of luck!✋

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@nrsinpain

I'm bone on bone, wear a brace and I'm having a really hard time performing my duties as a nurse. Since I am currently single I obviously need to work. My ortho wants to do the tendon thingy and assures me a 100% return to mobility but I've heard horror stories about the recovery or lack thereof. I'm hearing good things about this Dr Elhassan at Mayo. Is this where you had your surgery? How about recovery time ? Pain? Thank you in advance

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I had an osteo-integrated screw on R wrist, some moderate pain easily managed, back to normal in about 6 weeks. Left wrist was the tendon relocation: splinted with sutures for 2 weeks, then a rigid splint for 4 weeks along with some PT. Overall pain not bad but probably wouldn't have wanted to work (am retired anyway). I sensed some minor loss of strength because of loss of tendon but that has improved over the past couple of years. Bottom line: both methods worked well and continue to serve me well. Hope this helps.

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Any further feedback re the operation? About to have second steroid injection which I’ve put off having for a month or so. Specialist still recommending op as thumb is becoming quite disfigured and now at a funny angle. Although pain isn’t really a problem (more just an ache in the cold weather), the problem still remains with grabbing onto things, releasing and twisting jar lids etc. I’ve been assured by the Specialist the rehab isn’t so bad either - 2 weeks in a thumb brace so as to stop movement and allow proper healing, then 6 weeks in a small thumb brace (similar to what I wear now occasionally at night or when I have pain). I’m thinking now that surgery may be the best thing but still procrastinating as to when that might be.

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@hensy

Any further feedback re the operation? About to have second steroid injection which I’ve put off having for a month or so. Specialist still recommending op as thumb is becoming quite disfigured and now at a funny angle. Although pain isn’t really a problem (more just an ache in the cold weather), the problem still remains with grabbing onto things, releasing and twisting jar lids etc. I’ve been assured by the Specialist the rehab isn’t so bad either - 2 weeks in a thumb brace so as to stop movement and allow proper healing, then 6 weeks in a small thumb brace (similar to what I wear now occasionally at night or when I have pain). I’m thinking now that surgery may be the best thing but still procrastinating as to when that might be.

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@hensyy Left thumb was injected with hylaronic acid back in 2011 it's just now starting to hurt.

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@lioness

@hensyy Left thumb was injected with hylaronic acid back in 2011 it's just now starting to hurt.

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Does Medicare pay for hylaronic injections for hand joints?

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@maryclaire651 It did as I never got a bill . I told my pain Dr about it here . I'm due for a injection in my left knee so I'm going to ask him for that .

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