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Alternatives for pain management
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I was wondering if anyone tried cryo therapy or medical marijuana for pain management. If you did, how did they/it work?
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Ronnie (GRANDMAr)
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It really depends on the type of CBD oil, the amount, and the producer. I purchase CBD Daily, 1 fl. oz., it has 1 mg per dose, and 160 doses. I use between 3-5 doses each time. This is $60 per bottle and has 3/4 CBD and 1/4 THC. I only use it when I'm having pain, so not everyday. I hope this is helpful information.
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1 ReactionHi hun. Thankyou for replying.i was on fentanyl large dose patches,I came off that in 4 days because mainly I was ill with bronchitis and so was so poorly that withdrawals didn't touch me much except through the night.
Ok...have spondylosis of the neck,(since about 38 years ago but it got worse in last 15 years)
Have osteoarthritis in my spine and disc bulges too, all causing severe pain every day.
I can't function without pain relief as its so bad.
I also suffer with chronic fatigue so I take guarana which helps enormously.
My Dr was so impressed I came off fentanyl patches then went and told him, he shook my hand. I'm not dependant on pain relief for anything other than pain, so if there's a more natural less/non addictive alternative then I will use that. I have depression too which I forgot to say.
You're right about the quality etc.but here in the uk cannabis isn't legal(yet) for medicinal purposes, however our health food shops are selling hemp oil, cbd oil and some cbd is organic which I would love to look into as I'm a reflexologist,and like essential oils and anything natural for healing. I have a wheel chair but use my crutches as much as I'm able to.
I usually have tw0 30mg morphine tablets and up to 30mg of oramorph for break through pain.
So since a few days ago I dropped my night tablet for the oil. And havent had my day tablet today either. So I'm missing 60mg of morphine now. However I have just had oramorph 2.5mg twice. So from up to 90mg of morphine,down to 10mg today is where I'm at. Although it's on 2pm and I'm in a lot of pain(wriggling my feet to distract me whilst laying down)- so I'm going to have more oil now. See how I go.
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1 ReactionI have had to give in to the mst morphine as I'm not getting relief since I last wrote and it's driving me crazy as I'm so tired from being woken at 5am but can't sleep because of the pain, so I'm trying to distract myself by replying and looking on here. I feel so awful having given up when I was doing so well. But I'll try again tonight, I'll definately not take my night morphine tablet, and do cbd but I don't think its strong enough all day when I'm trying to get on with things.
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1 ReactionI don't know about your pain situation, but it might be helpful/useful to read Jon Kabat-Zinn's "Full Catastrohhe Living". I came easily to this because of my dharma practice, but you don't have to be of any religious background to latch onto the practice of bettering your life which Dr. Zinn dezcribes so will in his book.
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2 ReactionsI get relief from pain by laying out in the high noon sun. The UVB rays that’s only available during that time of the day creates vitamin D3 inside of my skin by the transformation of the cholesterol in the skin. I also take vitamin K2 to keep my blood calcium low to prevent calcification of the arteries and heart. Magnesium is also needed when getting vitamin D. A little zinc and vitamin a also works with D3 and K2 . Remember don’t take K2 with the older blood thinners like warfarin. The newest class of blood thinners can be used safely with vitamin K2. D becomes a hormone that helps relieve pain naturally. But I’m not giving medical advice. Talk to your dr.
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3 ReactionsIn 45 years with multiple diseases/conditions I think the hardest thing I face is my own lacerating opinion of how "I should be doing", when I know NO ONE IN THE FLESH who has any of my maladys, nor any doctor who's heard of these diseases...it's absurd that I can't be kinder, more accepting with myself.I know that chronic fatigue and insomnia are built right in to AA, but COULDN'T YOU DO ANY BETTER THAN A PITIFUL 90 MINUTES OF SLEEP, CAROL? Well, no I couldn't. I haven't the time to devote even one minute to self-flagellation, not today and I hope not ever. I put away the ugly self-directed words at just about the same time I put asside the razor-sharp matte cutter blades and the utility knives, and became shamefully disgusted with what I'd done to myself for just having the nerve to be alive. Bad girl. And at 72 I think I;ll try to live moment-to-moment with what modicam of wisdom and sheer, unadulterated joy...for just being alive
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Don't worry that you decided to go back to your medication. It sounds as if you are trying to withdraw too quickly from the morphine which is very powerful. You need to go very slowly if you want to be successful. I have shared my experience with taking CBD w/one quarter of THC per 1 mg. I take 6 to 8 doses when I am in a lot of pain, which has only happened twice. I have chosen another alternative to pain medication now.
First, I want to share a little of my struggle with back problems over the years. I'm nearly 70 years old now. I was prescribed hydrocodone and took it for a couple of years. It never really helped my pain, but I felt high, so I didn't care as much. I had been having hip and back pain off and on for about 20 years. Then a few years ago the pain was there every 3 months, progressing to daily about 5 years ago. Three years ago I was leaning forward to cut some roses, when I suddenly felt extreme fatigue in my right hip and leg. That became constant grinding pain that kept me from going up stairs and walking freely. I still didn't talk to the doctor about it as I'd had an MRI 5 year ago and the doctor wanted me to have surgery to fix my bulging lumbar disks. I didn't want surgery.
I finally was forced to see a doctor for acute and suddenly debilitating pain that put me in a wheelchair 2 years ago. I had an MRI and found I out I had multiple problems, including that my L5-S1 was impinging on my spinal cord, and my L4 was herniated and had slipped onto my L5. I had spondylitis, stenosis, osteoarthritis, degenerative disk disease, a compound fracture of my C7, and radiculopathy in my left shoulder, elbow and arm. I had outpatient surgery called a laminectomy to remove part of my L5 disk to relieve the pressure on my lumbar spine December 22, 2016.
The relief of pain on my left side was immediate. I was so grateful for that. However, the pain on the right side from my L4 continued. I continued to take medication for the pain, but I had trouble walking and could hardly go up steps anyway. I was prescribed Tramadol, 50mg, 4 times a day. It is a synthetic opioid that really helped me with the pain. I took it 4 times a day. My surgeon said I would need major surgery to repair the L4, so he wanted me to try other ways to relieve the pain. I had 2 rounds of physical therapy, acupuncture, massage, and nothing helped. I explored stem cell therapy. Then I read about ART, Active Release Technique, on the Mayo Connect community. I decided to try it and within 3 weeks of treatment, my pain was almost completely gone. I was very happy. I go monthly now for a tweak.
I decided to stop my Tramadol, and used CBD during the time as I reduced one pill a day for 3 weeks, then another pill reduction for 4 weeks, then I stayed at 2 pills a day for another 4 weeks using the CBD to help me with the anxiety and brain fog I felt. It really helped me to be able to keep reducing my pills. I broke my last pills in half and continued to take half in the morning and half in the evening. I now only take half a pill when I have pain.
I don't know if ART is appropriate for you. I recommend that you Google, Active Release Technique, and read about it. If you think it might help, then look for a practitioner in your area. Chiropractors are the ones who have gotten this training. Research who has the most training and certifications for different aspects of ART. Before deciding to do any treatment, show your MRI to the ART practitioner and be certain you talk with your doctor about what you're thinking about doing.
Please continue to let me know how you're doing. I'm rather surprised that the UK hasn't made medical marijuana legal yet. It is so helpful for those suffering pain and other problems, and is not addictive. I'm hoping the best for you brave woman!
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3 ReactionsGetting high levels of D3 from the high noon sunlight resets your biological clock and your body will create more melatonin at bedtime. Remember not to use sunscreen when getting the noon sunlight to create D3, sunscreen will block all UVB light waves from production D3 in your skin.
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3 ReactionsI want to know more about the natural things you take for pain. I don't have a doctor; but I became knowledgable when I acquired the first arachnoiditis, and began haunting the Loma Linda medical school library (ironically the same school the orthoppedic surgeons attended who butchered my spine and gave me spinal menningitis as their parting gift. So doctors aren't my favorite folks, My own learning has gonne forward for decades (and I'm an an artist/Photographer,,,,I never yearned to learn mecicine!). So pleaseshae with me.I don't take blood thinners. I take potassium for horrid leg cramps, curcumin for join pain, antioxidents, high dose B and C and so on. L'm particularly intrested in natural hormones. Excuse my wretched spelling...I'm essentially blind
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