Adrenaline spikes: Med detective needed, award given
I'm desperate for help. If I was rich, I'd pay a million $ to get answers. It's hard to summarize: I am a 59 yr old woman. 8 yrs ago I started having what feels like strong adrenaline rushes during the night and especially in the early morning. They disrupt my sleep making me severely sleep deprived. It used to happen a few times a month but in the last year, has been happening daily. This is not as simple as anxiety. My life is not particularly stressful compared to years ago and I've always handled stress well. Physical symptoms come first, then anxiety from adrenaline comes after. On rare days, If I sleep through the night, I wake with excess adrenaline and will be hyper the whole day and evening. Sometimes, I will have a severe "crash" in the afternoon with all kinds of symptoms that have me couch-bound. I take a tiny dose of Amitriptyline (10 mg) before bed to help with sleep, but it's obviously not working well enough. I am on Synthroid for non-Hashimoto's Hypothyroidism since 1996. Despite being 59 yrs old, I am not yet officially in menopause (last period was May 2017). TSH, fT4, fT3 are normal. Urine catecholamines (epinephrine & norepinephrine) are normal (although that does not necessarily reflect what is in the brain). Plasma ACTH is normal. I've tested negative for autoimmune disorders. Cortisol was high a few years ago (34.3 mcg/dL) but it's currently high-normal. DHEAS normal. Accompanying the start of this was phantosmia and occasional RLS. My diet is excellent, including a few good supplements. Until last yr when it started happening daily, I was exercising 6 days/wk. I cannot tolerate it any more - any exercise beyond mild cardio/aerobic causes an increase in symptoms. I meditate and have tried all kinds of herbal teas. I've experimented with different possible solutions, to no avail. I'm a voracious researcher (only legit sites) and still cannot figure this out. I'm normally a positive, active, happy person who loves to help others but this is ruining my life. I cannot make any plans, cannot get my work done, cannot even visit friends. I had to stop my volunteer work with children. š I'm starting to become depressed and hopeless. I've been to a total of about 9 doctors about this problem and they just shrug their shoulders and send me hope with more disappointment. The only help offered was an addictive prescription for benzos but I refuse to be treated for something without knowing the cause. Ideas: an atypical tumor on my pituitary or adrenal glands? Maybe, but I can't get a doctor to order the necessary MRIs. Perhaps not endocrine but a sleep disorder? High A.M. adrenaline is typical for sleep apnea but it should not cause these severe symptoms, and I really do not think I have sleep apnea (I don't have other symptoms). A neurological disorder? Maybe, but I can't get a doctor to order an MRI of my brain to make sure my pituitary gland is okay. If you've gotten through this far and you have any thoughts, please chime in. If your idea leads to a proper diagnosis and I get well (or treated properly) I will be your slave for life š Okay, seriously. I'm not in a good place right now.
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@realanswers ,tinabelle,
Thank you so much for sharing your
stories . For many years I worked in a clinic that had mold between the concrete walls and floors. The same
old building was remodeled 4 times
in the 17 years that I worked there.
The staff became hypersensitive to
all chemicals over the years. Realanswers, Cholestyramine is a cholesterol med. Why was that med given
first? I tried that after my gallblader
was removed many years ago. I will read
Dr. Shoemaker's protocol. Carm
Hello Kelly, I have the same symptoms as Sierra. I am wondering which Mayo you went to to get help. I have the same genetic issue regarding processing toxins based on genetic testing done by my naturopath. I have very high am cortisol etc. and am having the same adrenaline rushes at night and in the morning that Sierra has. I am wondering which Mayo clinic you went to? If I could get some help to know which clinic and what department to make an appointment with it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much!
@kdubois - since the genetic testing what have they recommended to get the liver clean or get the drugs out to stop the adrenaline rushes?
Hello. I just joined this discussion. May I ask you ....did you experience the jolts only when sleeping or did you also experience them while awake? I have very similar symptoms, but they happen only at night/while sleeping.
Hello. I just joined this discussion. I hope by now you have found some relief. I have similar symptoms, but they happen only at night/while sleeping. Are yours only when asleep or also while awake? I went to Mayo and had a sleep study, and the neurologist there thought I might have seizures because my adrenaline jolts are pretty much at the same time each night (i.e., the first occurs after 4-6 hours of sleep, and the next one occurs approximately 90 minutes later). I tried epilepsy medication and it was ineffective, so I am back at square one. I wish you well.
Have you considered copper toxicity? This turned out to be be my issue - it caused very intense adrenal surges at night.
Have you found relief?
Just an update: I have started taking a small dose of Cytomel (half of a 5mcg tab) and reduced my Synthroid to 100mcg, and this has stopped the adrenaline rushes at 3am...for now. Going to continue to monitor things, hopefully with a new family doc and I have an appt to see an Endocrinologist in October (a six month wait here in Canada).
Welcome, @peacock23 ā are you able to share some more information about yourself? Look forward to getting to know you.
Hi everyone, I wanted to check in and see how you all are doing.
@carm and @cleacock have you found a solution to your symptoms? Either the cause or a way to successfully treat your symptoms?
@bumble81 and @betsy101 how are your adrenaline spikes?
Has anyone else found solutions or treatment options for your mystery diagnosis?