I have a history of a myocardial infarction and afib

Posted by motiger @motiger, Dec 11, 2017

Motiger76

I have a history of a myocardial infarction and afib together with type 2 diabetes. I use one of those finger insert gadgets that gives oxygen together with pulse rate. Im 76 and walk every AM for a mile and I don't hit 150 until I get to the last minute. My cardiologist knows all of this and is oK with it, but prescribes metoprolol 25mg AM and PM. Does anyone think I am pushing the envelope too hard? Just looking for another opinion.

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@predictable

Hi, @motiger. Glad you could join us here on Mayo Connect, and I hope you'll enjoy and benefit from conversations with the members that @kanaazpereira has poked for you. I wrote a fairly long comment in response to your opening message, then lost it when my computer window closed without warning. It was too wordy anyway, so I'll reconstruct from memory only the main points that I'd have bothered you with.

Like you, I have A-fib, but neither diabetes nor infarction. My main medication is Carvedilol, a newer version of the drug class that includes Metoprolol. My dosage matches yours -- 25mg AM and PM. But my dosage is that large as much for its effect on my blood pressure as on regulation of my heart rate. Does your diagnosis also involve hypertension?

Because A-fib sometimes results in small blood clots being formed in the heart and sprayed around in the arteries, I'm also on an anti-coagulant -- Coumadin. That has meant regular blood tests to be sure of a safe coagulant index and avoiding a lot of leafy vegetables which contain Vitamin K, a Coumadin antidote. Have you taken an anti-coagulant?

Are you pushing too hard with your exercise regimen? Not that I can see, and if your cardiologist is OK with your daily walk of a mile -- with a heart rate of 150 at the end -- you should keep right on trucking. My heart rate used to be 50bpm (from running, biking, and hiking); A-fib pushed it up above 90, but it's now regularly 75-85 as a result of the Carvedilol.

Incidentally, a number of patients on Carvedilol have troublesome side-effects, often because they (or their doctor) abruptly cut their dosage in half or less. It should always be phased down with the doctor's close oversight.

Let us know how you're doing . . . what you're thinking . . . as a result of these discussions. Oh, forgot to mention that I'm originally from Iowa, so I'm assuming that "motiger" reflects a relationship with the University of Missouri Tigers. Right? Martin

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Motiger

Just a few PS's. My meds are the aforementioned metoprolol 25mg 1AM &1PM, lisinopril 20mg once daily, atorvastatin 20mg once daily, Asprin83mg daily , Furosemide 20mg once daily,Metformin500mg 1.5 daily. Oh there are others but not relevant. I am a good friend of the local pharmacist. I do have a BP gadget that also does pulse but I can't drag it along with me when I walk. I am beginning to thing maybe you are right...I fret too much over this pulse rate as I haven't had any serious pain and my blood thinner should keep the lumps from forming into a clot. My blood pressure has always been normal. Thanks and merry Christmas to all.

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@predictable

Hi, @motiger. Glad you could join us here on Mayo Connect, and I hope you'll enjoy and benefit from conversations with the members that @kanaazpereira has poked for you. I wrote a fairly long comment in response to your opening message, then lost it when my computer window closed without warning. It was too wordy anyway, so I'll reconstruct from memory only the main points that I'd have bothered you with.

Like you, I have A-fib, but neither diabetes nor infarction. My main medication is Carvedilol, a newer version of the drug class that includes Metoprolol. My dosage matches yours -- 25mg AM and PM. But my dosage is that large as much for its effect on my blood pressure as on regulation of my heart rate. Does your diagnosis also involve hypertension?

Because A-fib sometimes results in small blood clots being formed in the heart and sprayed around in the arteries, I'm also on an anti-coagulant -- Coumadin. That has meant regular blood tests to be sure of a safe coagulant index and avoiding a lot of leafy vegetables which contain Vitamin K, a Coumadin antidote. Have you taken an anti-coagulant?

Are you pushing too hard with your exercise regimen? Not that I can see, and if your cardiologist is OK with your daily walk of a mile -- with a heart rate of 150 at the end -- you should keep right on trucking. My heart rate used to be 50bpm (from running, biking, and hiking); A-fib pushed it up above 90, but it's now regularly 75-85 as a result of the Carvedilol.

Incidentally, a number of patients on Carvedilol have troublesome side-effects, often because they (or their doctor) abruptly cut their dosage in half or less. It should always be phased down with the doctor's close oversight.

Let us know how you're doing . . . what you're thinking . . . as a result of these discussions. Oh, forgot to mention that I'm originally from Iowa, so I'm assuming that "motiger" reflects a relationship with the University of Missouri Tigers. Right? Martin

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Glad to hear your warm spirit as Christmas approaches, @motiger. Your meds and mine are similar with two exceptions: I don't take Metformin or another diabetes treatment, and I don't take Furosemide (Lasix) any more. Low potassium (hypokalemia) is one of my problems, thanks to a genetic problem with my kidneys, so I stay away from Lasix or see my potassium drop below a safe level. That happened a few years ago and sent me to the ER for rehydration. My diuretic is Amiloride (10mg AM and the same PM). Generally, our medications combine to keep blood pressure down, along with their other benefits for the heart.

I should have realized that my BP meter is no solution for someone who needs (or wants) to track their heart rate while walking briskly. My wife solves that with a Fitbit wrist watch that I bought her last Spring. She's a diabetic and a workout nut, like yourself! She rarely feels faint, as do I. Best wishes for Christmas and the holidays! Martin

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@predictable

Hi, @motiger. Glad you could join us here on Mayo Connect, and I hope you'll enjoy and benefit from conversations with the members that @kanaazpereira has poked for you. I wrote a fairly long comment in response to your opening message, then lost it when my computer window closed without warning. It was too wordy anyway, so I'll reconstruct from memory only the main points that I'd have bothered you with.

Like you, I have A-fib, but neither diabetes nor infarction. My main medication is Carvedilol, a newer version of the drug class that includes Metoprolol. My dosage matches yours -- 25mg AM and PM. But my dosage is that large as much for its effect on my blood pressure as on regulation of my heart rate. Does your diagnosis also involve hypertension?

Because A-fib sometimes results in small blood clots being formed in the heart and sprayed around in the arteries, I'm also on an anti-coagulant -- Coumadin. That has meant regular blood tests to be sure of a safe coagulant index and avoiding a lot of leafy vegetables which contain Vitamin K, a Coumadin antidote. Have you taken an anti-coagulant?

Are you pushing too hard with your exercise regimen? Not that I can see, and if your cardiologist is OK with your daily walk of a mile -- with a heart rate of 150 at the end -- you should keep right on trucking. My heart rate used to be 50bpm (from running, biking, and hiking); A-fib pushed it up above 90, but it's now regularly 75-85 as a result of the Carvedilol.

Incidentally, a number of patients on Carvedilol have troublesome side-effects, often because they (or their doctor) abruptly cut their dosage in half or less. It should always be phased down with the doctor's close oversight.

Let us know how you're doing . . . what you're thinking . . . as a result of these discussions. Oh, forgot to mention that I'm originally from Iowa, so I'm assuming that "motiger" reflects a relationship with the University of Missouri Tigers. Right? Martin

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Motiger

Well I never have thought of myself as a workout nut but I live in a retirement community that is focused on keeping us fit and I think it does keep me moving. Sorry to learn that Lasix isn't your cup of tea but it sounds like you have made a successful adjustment. I don't know how your fitbit watch works but hopefully you don't have the same multiplier approach. If it gives you an accurate reading I might be interested in one. My wife and kids are always wishing I would give them a wish list but like most of us we usually just go out and get want we fancy. By the way I have had 76 birthdays...not really that many when compared to my friends around here. Go Tigers!

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@predictable

Hi, @motiger. Glad you could join us here on Mayo Connect, and I hope you'll enjoy and benefit from conversations with the members that @kanaazpereira has poked for you. I wrote a fairly long comment in response to your opening message, then lost it when my computer window closed without warning. It was too wordy anyway, so I'll reconstruct from memory only the main points that I'd have bothered you with.

Like you, I have A-fib, but neither diabetes nor infarction. My main medication is Carvedilol, a newer version of the drug class that includes Metoprolol. My dosage matches yours -- 25mg AM and PM. But my dosage is that large as much for its effect on my blood pressure as on regulation of my heart rate. Does your diagnosis also involve hypertension?

Because A-fib sometimes results in small blood clots being formed in the heart and sprayed around in the arteries, I'm also on an anti-coagulant -- Coumadin. That has meant regular blood tests to be sure of a safe coagulant index and avoiding a lot of leafy vegetables which contain Vitamin K, a Coumadin antidote. Have you taken an anti-coagulant?

Are you pushing too hard with your exercise regimen? Not that I can see, and if your cardiologist is OK with your daily walk of a mile -- with a heart rate of 150 at the end -- you should keep right on trucking. My heart rate used to be 50bpm (from running, biking, and hiking); A-fib pushed it up above 90, but it's now regularly 75-85 as a result of the Carvedilol.

Incidentally, a number of patients on Carvedilol have troublesome side-effects, often because they (or their doctor) abruptly cut their dosage in half or less. It should always be phased down with the doctor's close oversight.

Let us know how you're doing . . . what you're thinking . . . as a result of these discussions. Oh, forgot to mention that I'm originally from Iowa, so I'm assuming that "motiger" reflects a relationship with the University of Missouri Tigers. Right? Martin

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Hi, @motiger. Hope your weekend is rewarding! We're in a "retirement community" as well. Eligibility limited to age "55 and better." A golf course I don't use (I knew I could quit smoking 20 years ago, because I was able to quite golfing before that!). My wife tells me her Fitbit gives results for a whole minute after making a legitimate count for 60 seconds. Her resting rate is 58-62 bpm and runs up to 125-135 when she's biking or speed-walking. I got the Fitbit Charge 2 for her last Spring for $79 (half price). Birthdays? I've had 82 and when I get up in the morning, try to remember to answer the question, "What shall I do today that can occupy me 20 years from now?"

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