Other causes of failed PEth test for alcohol abuse?

I know that your message is a very old post. However, did you ever find anything out about this? I have high Peth scores with no alcohol involved and i get a mystery rash/hives and a constant sore throat.... like mono or shingles. I can't any docs to consider an autoimmune response.

No. I didn't. I do know that the finger stick test has 19 steps. Errors occurred during collection of the sample.
I do actually wonder if I need to be on maintenance antibiotics for small bowel bacterial overgrowth. I was diagnosed with it in November. I was on Xifaxan for 3 weeks.
I am interested in the possibility of autoimmune. What do you know about it?
I personally think, it's a scam to order more tests, to get more money.
I haven't had a positive venous draw. I have done 6 of those along with the finger stick. The positive finger sticks didn't occur with the venous draws though.
It's been a very frustrating year.

The PEth test has no oversight or regulation. Not only is it of unknown validity but the lack of accountability makes it a test that is able to be abused and I am hearing from several individuals each week who report these tests are being manipulated in professional health programs involving nurses, doctors and medical students. Given the stories are all similar, involve the same patterns of lab fraud and most palpably believable it can be reasonably inferred the same type of misconduct is occurring in family courts and the criminal justice system. Massachusetts State Auditor Suzanne Bump officially began an audit of the state medical boards physician health and compliance attorneys who are deeply involved in this misconduct and the auditor has been provided with concrete evidence of the fraud which can be seen below and we need to make sure these specific issues are directly addressed transparently andmon their merits. There is nothing seen in the Annie Dookhan crime-lab scandal that is as clearcut and obvious as the lab misconduct that is occurring with the PEth ( and EtG) tests. The matter needs to be exposed before more are harmed and that is occurring daily.

bit.ly/2Q0E6wg @MassAuditor #LabFraud involving MA #PHP director, their contracted drug and alcohol testing lab and MA Board of Registration in Medicine attorney

Mine was 365 so I must have been engaging in 7-binge sessions per day ( breakfast, lunch, dinner, mid-way between each and a nightcap to boot). Where has common sense gone,!

Documents sent to Massachusetts State Auditor Suzanne Bump pertaining to misuse and abuse of these tests by professional monitoring programs and licensing boards: bit.ly/2HMnAgN and bit.ly/2JPzubQ

HI folks!

A little late to this party, my false positive came a year ago may. Like so many here, backed up with numerous time appropriate follow on PeTH and etg hair tests that are all negative. I have no idea even of a source of incidental exposure.

I was in an abstinence program, another story fraught with fraud waste and abuse, so was offered relapse treatment, 100 days inpatient, but refused because I did not relapse, and was fired from a major airline. Awaiting arbitration, as that's the only due process allowed a unionized employee. As for a union helping, well, think again. They are not and recommended I go to the relapse treatment. And even have some pilots on a contract that removes their right to grieve! So they get fired with NO recourse.

Bad PeTH test was collected by anylab in Atlanta, processed by USDTL. A follow on test from them was negative, as was a follow on processed on whole blood from lab Corp I think.

As for post collection synthesis, absolutely possible. The manufacturer of the blood spot cards specifically states waiting a minimum of two hours before the specimen is sealed in a plastic bag. If your blood ferments on that card, and there's PLD in that blood spot, then PeTH is gonna be formed. It's not called a DRIED blood spot for nothing.

I have a lawyer and 4 forensic toxicologists working on the matter, what better way to spend my 401k....

There are many other pilots in my position, but none have grieved it that I know of.

At the end of my arbitration I'm willing to share any and all of the forensic reports I collect. Surely they can help someone.

Nope, but any sugar in the blood can ferment, and that can react with any PLD in the blood, and viola, PeTH. There are lots of research papers where they mention getting inconsistent results from folks who were currently intoxicated at the time of the test due to actual alcohol still being in the blood. They mention using a PLD inhibitor to stabilize the readings.

That's also why it's very important to allow the blood to dry before sealing it up for a DBS (dried blood spot) collection method to stop any enzymatic activity.

In whole blood they also mention freezing it right away to prevent enzymatic activity.

What evidence do you have to show that the PEth test is not FDA approved? I am trying to find out more about that. Thanks.

It just isn’t. Because it was developed simply to generate income/make a profit (rather than for a legitimate therapeutic motive) the FDA WILL NOT evaluate it. Since the FDA will not evaluate it, the FDA cannot approve it.