How do you explain your disease to the uninitiated?

Posted by coffcoff @coffcoff, Aug 10 1:33pm

Sooner or later we have to explain to people why: 1) we're taking our own water to the restaurant, 2) we can't enjoy their new jacuzzi, 3) we'd prefer to eat early in the evening and have to be home earlier to do our airway clearance 4) we can't sit on the patio because of the mister, 5) we need to wear a mask if it's windy outside, etc etc etc.

I'd like to be able to tell folks who ask about my bronchiectasis and NTM infection without having their eyes glaze over. Some people (like family and close friends) may want the long explanation, but for everyone else I'd like a very short and precise down-and-dirty few words.

What are all of you saying out there about your health problems?
Thanks!

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Profile picture for bayarea58 @bayarea58

@snoei I don’t find that the commercials for Brinsupri use scare tactics. Many with bronchiectasis have a very challenging time. Brinsupri is (currently) targeted for this patient population, the frequent exacerbators. You are fortunate that this does not include you, but that doesn’t make the marketing of Brinsupri inappropriate.

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@bayarea58 I understand what you are saying. I have only seen one ad--the senior citizen's grandchildren are visibly frightened by her harsh, uncontrollable cough and are quickly ushered away by a parent. To me it says "Take our medication or else this will be you." You are correct: I am very fortunate that my milder BE is well controlled by several devices--my Aerobika, my '84 Trek 18 speed bicycle and a treadmill at the senior center a mile from my home. Best wishes and God bless.

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Profile picture for ja24 - Jeannie @ja24

You definitely are right about airway clearance being the answer to dealing with Bronchiectasis and MAC. I have been living with both diseases for six plus years as well as Pseudomonas and have been using 7% sodium chloride with my Aerobika twice daily. My sputum samples used to show a lot of MAC but are now showing very few. I credit this to the airway clearance as well as walking 4 to 5 miles daily and eating healthy. I am also on 25 Mg Brinsupri which has helped reduce the mucus production. I feel fortunate at age 79 to be able to live an active life without my lung disease keeping me down. Best of luck to you in your journey.

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@ja24 Thank you for the positivity! I was just diagnosed recently and my head is still reeling over this! I am learning so much! When you were first diagnosed, were you on the 3 antibiotic regimen? I will be asking the dr. about Brinsupri. So happy for you that you can live an active life, and your walking distance is impressive...very motivating! Thank you!

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Profile picture for suz57 @suz57

@ja24 Thank you for the positivity! I was just diagnosed recently and my head is still reeling over this! I am learning so much! When you were first diagnosed, were you on the 3 antibiotic regimen? I will be asking the dr. about Brinsupri. So happy for you that you can live an active life, and your walking distance is impressive...very motivating! Thank you!

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@suz57 Yes, I was on the Big 3 for nine months and my sputum samples never showed that I cleared the MAC. My Pseudomonas took hold shortly after that and I ended up in the hospital with pneumonia. Since that time I have had multiple Pseudomonas flairs treated with IV infusions. I now inhale Colistimethate twice daily and it keeps the Pseudomonas down. My MAC does not seem to be progressing so my Mayo Clinic pulmonologist is withholding treatment for now. I like his approach of not pushing the drug regimes when they may not be necessary. Best wishes to you in finding the right course of action to fight your disease. 💗

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@raintyler I sympathize with your situation. At least you knew what to ask for, which is great. I had (had is operative word) a pulmonologist who wasn't listening to my constant complaint of immovable mucus and was sick for two months while he did little despite my requests. So I fired him, got another pulmonologist, and a culture and a bronchoscopy confirmed MAC infection. I drive 2.5 hours to get care - would go farther if needed - altho that's not within everyone's reach.

Airway clearance is key. MAC lives in mucus, BE creates space for mucus to accumulate, and mucus removal is the game. You need a PEP- you can get one on Amazon w/o scrip, Aerobika is best but scrip is required (I'm still waiting for mine to arrive), vest if that's needed. 7% hypertonic saline is best. I specify 7 because my pulm would only give me 3. I researched as soon as I learned the culture was + for MAC and immediately implemented all environmental changes I then read about (I'm a project manager and very risk averse ;-). I've read some ID doctors support environmental controls, some don't. But if I know the primary vectors of transmission are potting soil and aerosolized water, I'm going to avoid them. I now only take baths instead of showers. I turned my water heater up to +130 degrees (MAC grows in biofilm and high heat retards growth), replaced my dishwasher with one that sanitizes, bought a LifeWater bottle and countertop pitcher to filter my water (you need a .02 micron filter). I wear a mask when around people- sometimes just surgical, sometimes N95 depending on situation. Exercise supports airway clearance and your immune system so I exercise daily now altho I couldn't when first diagnosed as I was too sick. I do postural drainage to aid airway clearance - bridge pose is great.

You need a pulmonologist and an Infectious Disease doctor to properly treat (imo) and they need experience in this area. To provide perspective, NTM infection occurs in very low numbers of the population, depending upon the region in which you live. In areas where it's prevalent, it's still only ~30 / 100,000 people but avg's about 20 / 100K nationally. The CCN at NTM Fndn has a list of providers and hopefully one is near you. Otherwise read doctor profiles and look for those which specifically state they treat NTM infection. Interview providers you find and keep searching to find one you can work with and with whom you're comfortable. Best of luck to you.

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@skygirl thanks for your helpful overview. It could be a great resource for those new to BE-NTM

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Profile picture for skygirl @skygirl

@raintyler I sympathize with your situation. At least you knew what to ask for, which is great. I had (had is operative word) a pulmonologist who wasn't listening to my constant complaint of immovable mucus and was sick for two months while he did little despite my requests. So I fired him, got another pulmonologist, and a culture and a bronchoscopy confirmed MAC infection. I drive 2.5 hours to get care - would go farther if needed - altho that's not within everyone's reach.

Airway clearance is key. MAC lives in mucus, BE creates space for mucus to accumulate, and mucus removal is the game. You need a PEP- you can get one on Amazon w/o scrip, Aerobika is best but scrip is required (I'm still waiting for mine to arrive), vest if that's needed. 7% hypertonic saline is best. I specify 7 because my pulm would only give me 3. I researched as soon as I learned the culture was + for MAC and immediately implemented all environmental changes I then read about (I'm a project manager and very risk averse ;-). I've read some ID doctors support environmental controls, some don't. But if I know the primary vectors of transmission are potting soil and aerosolized water, I'm going to avoid them. I now only take baths instead of showers. I turned my water heater up to +130 degrees (MAC grows in biofilm and high heat retards growth), replaced my dishwasher with one that sanitizes, bought a LifeWater bottle and countertop pitcher to filter my water (you need a .02 micron filter). I wear a mask when around people- sometimes just surgical, sometimes N95 depending on situation. Exercise supports airway clearance and your immune system so I exercise daily now altho I couldn't when first diagnosed as I was too sick. I do postural drainage to aid airway clearance - bridge pose is great.

You need a pulmonologist and an Infectious Disease doctor to properly treat (imo) and they need experience in this area. To provide perspective, NTM infection occurs in very low numbers of the population, depending upon the region in which you live. In areas where it's prevalent, it's still only ~30 / 100,000 people but avg's about 20 / 100K nationally. The CCN at NTM Fndn has a list of providers and hopefully one is near you. Otherwise read doctor profiles and look for those which specifically state they treat NTM infection. Interview providers you find and keep searching to find one you can work with and with whom you're comfortable. Best of luck to you.

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@skygirl , thank you for your thoughtful reply. I am scheduled for a bronchoscopy tomorrow with my local pulmonologist but I have an appointment with a pulmonologist at Penn Medicine’s Harron Lung Center this week (I got in off their cancellation list). The 2+ hour drive will be well worth it.

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Profile picture for debpankey @debpankey

I love the short auto immune explanation that causes a non-contagious cough. Thank everyone for the various ideas. I can see where it could be handy to have several explanations depending on the situation and the person asking. I am newly diagnosed with MAC and this group has been incredibly helpful.

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@debpankey I am new to all of this and don’t know what to say either. The explanations have been great

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