Anyone have a hard time getting back to normal after ADT?
I had 3 shots of Lupron and one pill of abiraterone acetate (general Zytiga) to suppress my testosterone. I stopped this, because it was simply too disruptive. Last shot was early December 2025. I still have this disruption. I don't sleep well. I keep waking up, feeling like my hormones are racing around in my body Nap often. I feel lousy much of the day. I'm thinking it's affecting my heart. Want to see an endocrinologist. Anybody else having/had a hard time getting back to normal?
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@narus
It was hard to get an erection, but it wasn’t hard enough. Is this just a mental issue or is the physical causing some of the psych problems? You are a year older and an 84. I can’t go away a little if you don’t use it..
For some people, the sexual drive is the type of thing that you use it or you lose it. For other people taking a break from it for a year or more wouldn’t make a difference. Maybe 84 the first choice happens. If you force yourself to do it a few times, your desire for more probably will come back.
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1 Reaction@jeffmarc Eight months to still be at castrate level (50) may be okay for metastatic patients who expect to be on ADT for life but will not inspire confidence for someone contemplating a 6-month ADT course if it will take 16 months or more to recover. Testosterone increases tend to plateau so it is unlikely that a low (300) testosterone level would be achieved in another 8 months (25% per month). Anyone over 75 should know the long-term risk of Lupron if taken for short term (vs permanent) ADT, especially since Orgovyx is as good with a better recovery profile. Even with Orgovyx the risk of poor and slow recovery is higher over 75 than at younger ages. Doctors tend to minimize this risk.
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3 Reactions@utahgearhead I think you should talk with your Urologist first and see what they say. At the end of the day it is your choice and if they will not prescribe it you can go to an online clinic that will after blood work.
@chippydoo Yes $90 for three months is a good deal. Amazon price is like $40/month without insurance. I am not sure my PSA was ever undetectable but it is back below .1. It briefly went up to like .22.
@jeffmarc If I had someone willing and attractive to do it with my desire would probably come back. Before prostate cancer I was probably a creepy old man, now I am in a good place. I control my disire it does not control me.
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1 Reaction@pesquallie I am happy my sex drive and desire came back. If I was in a sexual relation I would probably would also be taking Viagra My sex drive is not my main reason for taking testosterone it was more energy and muscle tone
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1 ReactionI was on ADT and abitaterone for 2.5 years. I am now in remission. That doesn t mean normal. It's been 2 yrs and I had to reset normal to something less than old normal. Good luck
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1 Reaction@narus
One of the doctors that moderates an Advance prostate cancer meeting said almost exactly what you’re saying. He’s no longer a horn dog and it’s great for his marriage. For some people ADT makes life Changing attitudes that benefit the person and Those around him. If only we didn’t have the damn side effects that go along with it.
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1 Reaction@jim18
The difference is in my case I was on ADT for six years when I tried this. At the age of 77 neither I nor my oncologist figured my testosterone would come back at all.
Somebody that has a short term of ADT, Like the six months you refer to, We’ll have testosterone come back in the low hundreds within six months and at 16 months will be pretty much normal. If they take Orgovyx it will come back even quicker.
My brother is a perfect example. He was put on 6 months of Lupron at 77 for his radiation treatments. After about nine months, most of the side effects were gone and at a little over a year they were gone completely. This is an older person whose testosterone recovered within a reasonable amount of time. It does happen.
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2 Reactions@narus thanks I planned on doing so before any action. Based on your detailed knowledge I was just looking for suggestions.