PSA INCREASE - IS IT OK?

Posted by cochuir @cochuir, Sep 7 6:28am

70 YEAR OLD, GLEASON 7 (4+3), RADIATION/BRACHYTHERAPY/ADT FINISHED JUNE 24. PSA OCT 25-0.344, JAN 26-0.136, FEB 26-0.151, MAY 0.162, AUG-0.179.
SHOULD I BE CONCERNED,IS THAT OK.

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@diverjer The 0.1 or 0.2 thresholds for recurrence are after surgery, since PSA has to be essentially zero. After RT the criterion is nadir plus 2.

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Thanks, that makes things much clearer. Since I had surgery, I didn't know about nadir + 2.

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@cochuir The only recommendation would be to track testosterone and full bloodwork with every PSA test, that way you’ll know if anything is trending in the wrong direction and can take quick action if it does.

And get a genetic (germline) test if you have the opportunity.

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@brianjarvis thanks Brian.

what is the correct testosterone reading?

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@brianjarvis thanks Brian.

what is the correct testosterone reading?

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@cochuir There is no “correct” reading, just a standard age-based range.

It’s always helpful to get a baseline testosterone reading (along with PSA) in order to know what’s normal; then tracking them together each time, as testosterone drops, PSA should too. If they ever got out of synch - which happens with castrate-resistance - you’d want to know.

Have you had a DEXA scan?

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@cochuir There is no “correct” reading, just a standard age-based range.

It’s always helpful to get a baseline testosterone reading (along with PSA) in order to know what’s normal; then tracking them together each time, as testosterone drops, PSA should too. If they ever got out of synch - which happens with castrate-resistance - you’d want to know.

Have you had a DEXA scan?

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@brianjarvis Brian, noted ref testosterone.
Had a dexa scan some time ago, I have osteoprosis since I had colon cancer 2019. Due another dexa scan January 2027.

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I'm seeing a lot of replies saying that one shouldn't be concerned about rising PSA until it reaches nadir+2 (or some other number). I was diagnosed in 2011 with Gleason 3+3 (mild) and PSA at 6.6 prior to treatment. I did 45 Proton radiation treatments and my PSA slowly declined to .4 over the next 10 years. "Textbook", they told me. Beginning in 2022 my annual wellness check showed a PSA that began to rise: .49; .74; .69; and finally in 2025, 1.18. I asked my GP about it and they wanted to check again in 6 months. I had it tested on my own two weeks later and it was up to 1.30. They said let's look at it in 3 months. I say "no way" and went to my Urologist. He immediately sent me for a PETscan. Metastasis to my L4 vertebrae. Referred me to an oncologist. I did 5 radiation treatments and went on ADT. Thankfully, one year later my PSA is <.04 with no sign of any metastasis. Now waiting, hoping, for my T to come back (pre-treatment 296; down to 12 and only recovered to 15 after 3 months of stopping Eligard injections). My message, I think it is still the RATE of change more importantly than the absolute change.

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