Anyone living with Essential Thrombocythemia with JAK2?

Posted by lindamarie63 @lindamarie63, Dec 3, 2024

Has anyone been living with,ET, jac2 mutation

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Hi @eloise999 You posed a great question as to whether patients with ET needed to fail on HU first before they can receive Besremi. Apparently that’s not the case. After a little more digging this is what I found this morning regarding eligibility. It appears there is no requirement limit to who may receive the drug.

This quote is from Curetoday.com (link to full article below)
“The approval, announced by PharmaEssentia USA Corporation, makes BESREMi the first new FDA-approved treatment for essential thrombocythemia in nearly 30 years. >The approval applies to adults with ET regardless of their genetic profile or disease status, including people who have been newly diagnosed and have not previously received cytoreductive therapy.”

From Curetoday.com:
https://www.curetoday.com/view/fda-approves-besremi-for-essential-thrombocythemia-expanding-treatment-options
A few more links with information on Besremi’s approval Aug 31, 2026.
FDA;
https://www.fda.gov/drugs/news-events-human-drugs/fda-approves-treatment-essential-thrombocythemia
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From Besremi.com
https://besremi.com/et/
This drug has the potential to change course of the disease by reducing the JAK2 mutated cells. But it may not be for everyone and will take consideration from both patients and doctors to make the right decision on treatment plans. It’s certainly encouraging though.

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@loribmt interesting. That is good news, but I am surprised. I guess we will have to see what insurance companies do with it. I am triple negative, so I wonder about this for me.

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@loribmt interesting. That is good news, but I am surprised. I guess we will have to see what insurance companies do with it. I am triple negative, so I wonder about this for me.

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@eloise999 Yes. Approval of Besremi by the FDA does not translate to approval by health insurance companies.

Drug prices are set by how many patient-customers there are: Lots of patients means a company can sell the drug for less. The FDA approval does increase the number of potential patients for the Besremi--all those with an MPN--but the actual population of potential patients with these cancers is still pretty small. That means drug manufacturers will not be able to make a big profit with high-volume sales, and will likely keep prices high for now. Insurance companies may not want to cover all or part of the cost until the price comes down.

Drug companies sometimes offer a payment assistance program for lower-income patients, but these programs will be offered only as long as the company is getting a financial return on the program. They can be discontinued without notice.

The way I read it, overall approval of Besremi is good news, but affordability will continue to be a push-pull between the manufacturers and insurance companies for awhile.

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@1995victoria my doctor has said both Advil and Tylenol are ok to take. I will usually start with Tylenol just for my kidneys’ sake but it doesn’t work as well as for me asAdvil. Also just asked about stronger anti-inflammatories and they said both Meloxicam and Celebrex are ok. I will be drinking lots of water!! Note: I take Hydrea 2x/week. Definitely check with your doctor

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@dewz13 first pain mgmt dr rx'ed meloxicam, oncologist said no, and just tylenol......second pain mgmt oncologist prescribed tramadol, but as a opoid causes constipation and only works for 4-5 hours, then pain comes back.....wakes me during sleep

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@kat260
I've not been back in this thread for awhile and am trying to catch up.
A belated welcome to the group and a belated reply.

While what is done is done, I'm fairly convinced my JAK2 mutation/ET may have been brought on by the Covid shots (they aren't traditional vaccines, btw) too. They affect our RNA. In my My Chart medical records from my doctors, I can view numbers and graphs of my lab test results going back to the beginning. My platelet and some other blood count graphs were flat until the tests done at my next routine appointment four or five months after taking the Moderna shots, when my graphs spiked and started going crazy. I showed the graphs to a relative with a doctorate degree who works for the CDC and she agreed this looked very likely. It's just too much of a coincidence otherwise, happening so suddenly after years of flat normal results. (I haven't mentioned this before, because "tin foil hat," but just know you aren't the only one with such suspicions.) Of course there's nothing to be done about it now re our ET, so no use crying over spilt milk. (However, I don't take the Covid boosters and to my knowledge have never had Covid.)

Your post also highlights the different protocols that different doctors use in treating ET. My oncologist started my Hydrea (hydroxyurea) when my platelet count first went over 600k, a dose of 500mg every day, earlier this year. I'm also on 2 low-dose 81mg coated aspirin tablets a day to make my platelets more slippery and less likely to clot. I have a family history and am now 79, so at high risk for several reasons.

Prayers and best wishes for a good outcome with our blood disorder. I'm thankful there are treatments for it even though I don't like the notion of a "chemo" pill for the rest of my life.

Now I'll continue reading other posts in the thread to catch up more, then I'll update some on my treatment.

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@cec2 Hi and thanks for your reply. I haven't checked in here for a while either.
Interesting. As time goes on, I'm sure we'll find out more about the effects of the covid shots and covid itself. Fyi, I had 3 shots of Astra Zeneca (the one related to thrombotic events about 2 weeks after the shot, in people over 50). My platelets started increasing a few weeks after my first shot. I only know this because I had regular blood tests to monitor other conditions and my GP showed me on a graph which was pretty obvious. I have had covid 3 times and don't do any covid boosters.
Regarding the different protocols in treating ET, I thought I'd give you an update as my treatment plan has changed dramatically.
With my original Haematologist I was only on 1 asprin 100mg, platelets 900's. When I changed to an MPN specialist 3.5 months ago, I increased to 2 aspirin and added 2 x 500mg Hydroxy per day. My platelets dropped from high 900's to high 200's in just 8 weeks. I was then reduced to 1 aspirin, 1 Hydroxy. I'm currently on 1 Hydroxy 3 times per week but I also started Pegasys 45mcg mid July. I've now had 2 increased doses of 67.5mcg. So far so good with main side effect being fatigue but it's manageable. I feel very lucky so far and hope I will remain well as the dose is increased with the aim to drop the Hydroxy altogether.
Platelets 326 last week, white cell count had been increasing slightly but now in normal range. Liver numbers also slowly increasing, still higher than normal range but nothing crazy. I'm now 61, also have family history and a moderate calcium score so I am also high risk.
Wishing you all the best in your treatment. It really is a lottery and there seem to be varied treatment plans depending on who you see. My MPN specialist is confident that there will be other treatments upcoming in the not too distant future so I am ever hopeful for that.

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@cec2 Hi and thanks for your reply. I haven't checked in here for a while either.
Interesting. As time goes on, I'm sure we'll find out more about the effects of the covid shots and covid itself. Fyi, I had 3 shots of Astra Zeneca (the one related to thrombotic events about 2 weeks after the shot, in people over 50). My platelets started increasing a few weeks after my first shot. I only know this because I had regular blood tests to monitor other conditions and my GP showed me on a graph which was pretty obvious. I have had covid 3 times and don't do any covid boosters.
Regarding the different protocols in treating ET, I thought I'd give you an update as my treatment plan has changed dramatically.
With my original Haematologist I was only on 1 asprin 100mg, platelets 900's. When I changed to an MPN specialist 3.5 months ago, I increased to 2 aspirin and added 2 x 500mg Hydroxy per day. My platelets dropped from high 900's to high 200's in just 8 weeks. I was then reduced to 1 aspirin, 1 Hydroxy. I'm currently on 1 Hydroxy 3 times per week but I also started Pegasys 45mcg mid July. I've now had 2 increased doses of 67.5mcg. So far so good with main side effect being fatigue but it's manageable. I feel very lucky so far and hope I will remain well as the dose is increased with the aim to drop the Hydroxy altogether.
Platelets 326 last week, white cell count had been increasing slightly but now in normal range. Liver numbers also slowly increasing, still higher than normal range but nothing crazy. I'm now 61, also have family history and a moderate calcium score so I am also high risk.
Wishing you all the best in your treatment. It really is a lottery and there seem to be varied treatment plans depending on who you see. My MPN specialist is confident that there will be other treatments upcoming in the not too distant future so I am ever hopeful for that.

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@kat260
Thanks for sharing.

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ET with Jak2 mutation diagnosed in 2018 but clearly was walking around with it for quite a few years before diagnosis.
Have a HU dosage question.
I am reading that if you take 2 HU a day 500mg each.
Taking 1 in the a.m.
And 1 in the pm seems to keep numbers stable longer.
Has anyone else been given this suggestion by their O/ H?

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ET with Jak2 mutation diagnosed in 2018 but clearly was walking around with it for quite a few years before diagnosis.
Have a HU dosage question.
I am reading that if you take 2 HU a day 500mg each.
Taking 1 in the a.m.
And 1 in the pm seems to keep numbers stable longer.
Has anyone else been given this suggestion by their O/ H?

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Hi. My wife, Becky, takes two 500mg, 2x per week and one every other day. Her oncologist has never suggested anything other than taking the two. He never mentioned splitting the two up.
Steve

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From 2024, here is a helpful comment from nohrt4me:

According to the National Institutes of Health, HU has a half life of about 2 to 4 hours (this can vary by person). That means that your body washes half the drug out of your system every 2-4 hours.

Let's say you take 1,000 mg at 10 pm. By 2 am, your excretory system will have washed out half the dose, leaving 500 mg. By 6 am, that amount reduces to 125 mg. At 10 am, there's about 62 mg, and so on.

If you take HU in the morning, you can see you're going to be dealing with a higher dose during waking hours. So if HU causes fatigue, try taking it at night.

Drinking 64 ounces of water throughout your waking hours will help HU circulate better and help your kidneys wash it out more effectively. I have no scientific info on this, but some patients who are alert to water intake say this makes them feel less sluggish.

I start front-loading water as soon as I get up, about 16 ounces with breakfast and another 16 by lunch time.

Hope this is useful info for someone!

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