My pain Doctor has sent me to an orthopaedic surgeon for spinal stenosis tomorrow. As I am a caregiver, being laid up for a time would create problems. I wondered if anyone out there has ever tried laser therapy for spinal stenosis. I am an active 75 year old. Leslie324
My pain Doctor has sent me to an orthopaedic surgeon for spinal stenosis tomorrow. As I am a caregiver, being laid up for a time would create problems. I wondered if anyone out there has ever tried laser therapy for spinal stenosis. I am an active 75 year old. Leslie324
@leslie324, I see that you are still curious about laser treatment for your spinal stenosis. While we wait for other members to chime in, is this something you have asked your surgeon about or plan to ask your surgeon about tomorrow? I can certainly understand not wanting to be laid up for a long time, especially since you are also a caregiver for your husband. Could you update the group on what your surgeon says about laser therapy tomorrow or how long surgery would lay you up?
My pain Doctor has sent me to an orthopaedic surgeon for spinal stenosis tomorrow. As I am a caregiver, being laid up for a time would create problems. I wondered if anyone out there has ever tried laser therapy for spinal stenosis. I am an active 75 year old. Leslie324
Justin,
Thank you for your reply. The orthopaedic surgeon I saw today actually did not recommend surgery in my case, saying it might help the pain down my leg but could likely make my back pain worse. As for laser treatment, he expressed concerns based on what he has seen from his patients' experiences when they come back to him. One had incorrect surgery which he had to fix. I did ask if my problems could get worse and was told only 15% of patients do so the odds are on my side. He asked me to return to the Pain Clinic to continue my meds and whatever else that Doctor recommends. I'm very relieved and will continue doing my physical therapy exercises, taking senior yoga, losing weight for less pressure on my back and walking as much as I can. My husband came with me and was also satisfied with the outcome. Leslie324
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Which type of laser surgery is being talked about here -- the cutting kind of laser or the therapeutic kind? I've received Class IV laser therapy which is a non-invasive deep "light" treatment. It's been used in veterinary medicine for years and now is being used in the offices of chiropractors, podiatrists and some orthopedic surgeons. Its proponents say it is proven to reduce inflammation and pain. I've had laser treatments for pain between the point of hip and knee (for which I had been dry needled, electrically stimulated, etc., without success) that finally got rid of it after six treatments. I've also had it used on my lower back, and on a swollen ankle. Here's one "study" to look at, though I can not vouch for it - don't know how scientific if is: http://www.madisonlasertherapy.com/uploads/6/4/3/2/6432749/class_iv_therapy_laser_case_studies_report_2013.pdf
Of just do some online searches for Class IV laser therapy and decide for yourself.
Hi @leslie324
Which type of laser surgery is being talked about here -- the cutting kind of laser or the therapeutic kind? I've received Class IV laser therapy which is a non-invasive deep "light" treatment. It's been used in veterinary medicine for years and now is being used in the offices of chiropractors, podiatrists and some orthopedic surgeons. Its proponents say it is proven to reduce inflammation and pain. I've had laser treatments for pain between the point of hip and knee (for which I had been dry needled, electrically stimulated, etc., without success) that finally got rid of it after six treatments. I've also had it used on my lower back, and on a swollen ankle. Here's one "study" to look at, though I can not vouch for it - don't know how scientific if is: http://www.madisonlasertherapy.com/uploads/6/4/3/2/6432749/class_iv_therapy_laser_case_studies_report_2013.pdf
Of just do some online searches for Class IV laser therapy and decide for yourself.
Thank you so much, Mamie. We were discussing both types of treatment. The case the surgeon discussed at length was actual laser surgery. He did point out that patients successfully treated non-surgically don't come back to him. He did urge me to be careful since some practioners seem to over- charge patients. I have been researching and found the article you sent to be helpful. I plan to check into it further. Leslie
I spoke to my vet this morning about her experience with animals and cold laser therapy. She said it is very successful. I will try it with the local chiropractor who has helped some of my friends and let you all know if it helps me. Leslie324
I spoke to my vet this morning about her experience with animals and cold laser therapy. She said it is very successful. I will try it with the local chiropractor who has helped some of my friends and let you all know if it helps me. Leslie324
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Hi @leslie324,
I wasn't able to find much on laser treatment for spinal stenosis. However, here is an article by Paul Huddleston, III, M.D., Orthopedic Surgery, Mayo Clinic, Rochester, MN about nonsurgical treatment for spinal stenosis- https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/mayo-clinic-q-and-a-nonsurgical-treatments-may-decrease-pain-from-spinal-stenosis/.
Also, I have included at podcast from the Mayo Clinic news network on research and treatment for spinal stenosis that may be of interest to you.https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/spinal-stenosiszebrafishrecurring-fever-mayo-clinic-radio/
@sandytoes14, @predictable - do any of you have any insight about laser treatment for spinal stenosis?
Thank you. I found both very helpful. I also read thru the stem cell information and plan to phone the Mayo clinic helpline on regenerative medicine.
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1 ReactionMy pain Doctor has sent me to an orthopaedic surgeon for spinal stenosis tomorrow. As I am a caregiver, being laid up for a time would create problems. I wondered if anyone out there has ever tried laser therapy for spinal stenosis. I am an active 75 year old. Leslie324
@leslie324, I see that you are still curious about laser treatment for your spinal stenosis. While we wait for other members to chime in, is this something you have asked your surgeon about or plan to ask your surgeon about tomorrow? I can certainly understand not wanting to be laid up for a long time, especially since you are also a caregiver for your husband. Could you update the group on what your surgeon says about laser therapy tomorrow or how long surgery would lay you up?
Justin,
Thank you for your reply. The orthopaedic surgeon I saw today actually did not recommend surgery in my case, saying it might help the pain down my leg but could likely make my back pain worse. As for laser treatment, he expressed concerns based on what he has seen from his patients' experiences when they come back to him. One had incorrect surgery which he had to fix. I did ask if my problems could get worse and was told only 15% of patients do so the odds are on my side. He asked me to return to the Pain Clinic to continue my meds and whatever else that Doctor recommends. I'm very relieved and will continue doing my physical therapy exercises, taking senior yoga, losing weight for less pressure on my back and walking as much as I can. My husband came with me and was also satisfied with the outcome. Leslie324
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Which type of laser surgery is being talked about here -- the cutting kind of laser or the therapeutic kind? I've received Class IV laser therapy which is a non-invasive deep "light" treatment. It's been used in veterinary medicine for years and now is being used in the offices of chiropractors, podiatrists and some orthopedic surgeons. Its proponents say it is proven to reduce inflammation and pain. I've had laser treatments for pain between the point of hip and knee (for which I had been dry needled, electrically stimulated, etc., without success) that finally got rid of it after six treatments. I've also had it used on my lower back, and on a swollen ankle. Here's one "study" to look at, though I can not vouch for it - don't know how scientific if is:
http://www.madisonlasertherapy.com/uploads/6/4/3/2/6432749/class_iv_therapy_laser_case_studies_report_2013.pdf
Of just do some online searches for Class IV laser therapy and decide for yourself.
Thank you so much, Mamie. We were discussing both types of treatment. The case the surgeon discussed at length was actual laser surgery. He did point out that patients successfully treated non-surgically don't come back to him. He did urge me to be careful since some practioners seem to over- charge patients. I have been researching and found the article you sent to be helpful. I plan to check into it further. Leslie
I spoke to my vet this morning about her experience with animals and cold laser therapy. She said it is very successful. I will try it with the local chiropractor who has helped some of my friends and let you all know if it helps me. Leslie324
Great. I'd be interested in learning if it helps.
Interesting. Be curious to know more.