Treating Osteoporosis: What works for you?

Posted by heritage1955 @heritage1955, Apr 1, 2016

Hi. I'm new to the site and am interested in treating osteoperosis. I'm 39 yo and recently had a bone density that showed I'm at -2.4. So, going through the intial "I can't believe it" stuff. 🙂

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hello, my name is Nancy and my osteopenia went to osteoperosis in lower spine and hips and although I did not have a scan of my neck, I suspect issues there as well. My endocrinologist is working with me to find a drug plan I can afford and doesn't affect my heart and we have currently landed on Tymlos and I am waiting to change to an insurance company that covers some of the cost. Still, it will end up costing about $3k per year which is a lot and will mean sacrificing travel for the next few years. Is there anyone who has taken this drug with success? I don't mind the sacrifice if there's a real improvement. Thanks you for any advice you might have on this drug.

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hello, my name is Nancy and my osteopenia went to osteoperosis in lower spine and hips and although I did not have a scan of my neck, I suspect issues there as well. My endocrinologist is working with me to find a drug plan I can afford and doesn't affect my heart and we have currently landed on Tymlos and I am waiting to change to an insurance company that covers some of the cost. Still, it will end up costing about $3k per year which is a lot and will mean sacrificing travel for the next few years. Is there anyone who has taken this drug with success? I don't mind the sacrifice if there's a real improvement. Thanks you for any advice you might have on this drug.

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I had a 20% gain in my spine, going from -3.3 to -2.5, which is now borderline. I had a9% increase in hip which is more than expected.

I am sensitive to meds so started Tymlos at a low dose and ramped up so my body could get used to it. The pen has "clicks" that adjust the dose. I did 6-7 clicks most of the time and the full dose is 8. I still did very well.

The company, Radius, has a patient assistance program. There is a fairly generous income requirement. You can call Together with Tymlos for advice.

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I had a 20% gain in my spine, going from -3.3 to -2.5, which is now borderline. I had a9% increase in hip which is more than expected.

I am sensitive to meds so started Tymlos at a low dose and ramped up so my body could get used to it. The pen has "clicks" that adjust the dose. I did 6-7 clicks most of the time and the full dose is 8. I still did very well.

The company, Radius, has a patient assistance program. There is a fairly generous income requirement. You can call Together with Tymlos for advice.

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thank you so much for taking the time to reply. I will check out Together.

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thank you so much for taking the time to reply. I will check out Together.

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Together with Tymlos seems to be discontinued. The website has nurse educators only. So you have to go to the Radius Assist on the Radius site directly.

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Hi all,
I am 65 and was diagnosed with Severe Osteoporosis in Feb. I was totally shocked as I am active, I exercise, walk and do not have a secondary DX. No family history. My score is -3.8. I have a huge bill to climb but I am taking Tymlos. It isn’t that bad and I can’t really say if the back pain when laying dow is because of meds, or osteoporosis. I take calcium, Vitamins D3 and K. And yes, some days are better than others. If anyone has tips, natural remedies for pain please share.

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On the effect of body size on DEXA: (caveat, if DEXA shows severe osteoporosis and you are small, you still have concerning osteoporosis and fracture risk)

Source: https://www.inspire.com/windblown/journal/forteo-results/reply/1478797/......... from a poster called "endodoc" who is a physician, presumably an endocrinologist:

"Most patients and most otherwise good physicians who never specifically
studied bone metabolism are unaware of the fact that DXA machines do not actually measure BMD. I realize that sounds bizarre, but it is true. If you look at the units for your BMD values on DXA, they are grams per square centimeter (g/cm2). There is no universe where mass/area equals density. D=M/V, in other words, density equals mass over volume. The DXA measures your BMC (bone mineral content), based on the level of x-rays that reach the detector. More mineral in the path of the beam, less x-rays make it to the detector = higher BMC. Less mineral in the path of the beam, more x-rays make it to the detector = lower BMC.

If DXA machines divided the BMC they actually measure by the volume of the bone scanned, the units would be g/cm3, it would actually be measuring density, and we wouldn't be having this discussion. However, they divide the BMC by the area of the ROI (region of Interest) that the DXA and/or DXA tech puts over the image of your bone; hence, the units are g/cm2. If you've ever seen your hip scan, you will see a rectangle that represents the ROI for the femoral neck sub-region. You will see a smaller square box, either close to the rectangle or touching/partially within the rectangle - that's the ROI for the Ward's triangle sub-region.

The problem with DXA being an areal measurement as opposed to a true volumetric measurement is that, as a result, it systematically over-estimates BMD on individuals whose bones are larger than average (think: those 5'10" gals with the the big wrists who played rugby in college), and systematically under-estimates BMD in individuals whose bones are more petite than average (think: those 5'2" gals with the the small wrists and ankles who did ballet in college).

Because of the confound of bone size on DXA, many smallish women have t-scores of < -2.0 when they are at their peak BMD at age 25. So if their T-score is -2.5 at the time they enter the menopause, it's likely (absent other risk factors, like bone toxic drugs or diseases) to represent an approximation of their peak bone mass. Most non-expert physicians, however, make the idiotic assumption that "everyone starts at average" (trust me, half are above and half are below, and with DXA it's only the big-boned folks who are above), so they interpret your baseline T-score of -2.5 at age 50 as if you've already lost 2.5 SD [standard deviations] of your bone mass. This is absurd."

ps this also explains why the heavier strontium makes DEXA look better than it is. Also please don't use this info as a reason to avoid meds if meds are needed!

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@windyshores my T score came back for Wards triangle as osteoporotic. I was confused by the comment on the DEXA that said what I was on was working and to come back in a couple of years.
Then lo and behold I have my Ostroporosis nurse talk to me about me being in the osteoporotic range now so time to bring in the big guns of treatment. Wondering if I need a second opinion

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