What to do when you feel fine but the damage is bigger and bigger?

Posted by aliciagarper @aliciagarper, Aug 25 8:51am

I have bronchiestasis from 2010, all was under control doing a lot of exercise (I am swimmer and triathlete). In december 2025 in a TAC it was found a nodule (no cavitation), in june 2026 a lot of nodules, bigger and 3 of them with cavitation. In april 2026 mycobacterium avium was found. Doctors are reluctant to treatment as I still can swim, bike, run (of course each time slower and shorter). Two weeks ago while swimming I had my first hemoptisis incident, 8-10 coughs with a lot of blood (half a glass more or less), and then stopped. I have next TAC on 10 september, and 30 september appointment with pneumologist and mycrobiologist to decide if treatment, but I am really worried. I feel fine now but each time worse. Problem is doctors says if you have mycobacteria infection you need to be very tired, I am tired but it seems not as I supposed to be. So they are investing time trying to find other reason, and it seems nothing more. What do you think? Others in the same point? I am really worried. Thanks and sorry for my poor english.

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I have a similar story. My doctor at NJH said “treat, now”. I have a lot of damage on CT. It was his opinion that even though I felt fine, I would not continue to feel fine as the damage progressed and once the damage is done, it’s done. They want to slow that process as much as possible, hopefully retaining as much lung function as possible. We hear a lot about the importance of symptoms with regard to initiation of treatment, but the degree of damage on CT seems likewise significant. So even though I felt fine, the recommendation was to treat given the extent of damage on CT and the fact that it was actively progressing. I am surprised you are not being counseled to treat with progressing cavitary disease, regardless of symptoms. Is your treating doctor a true NTM expert? I would suggest getting another opinion as soon as possible.

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I was diagnosis in 2019 (after double pneumonia) "Bronchiectasis in all five lobes". Obviously, this had been going on long before diagnosis. I've been a very dedicated walker for 40 years. I think whatever mucus I was producing then was coming up on its own through the effort of walking. I chalked the fatigue I was feeling to age, but this fatigue did impact my energy level. In the last two years, I began to develop more infections. Even these infections were manageable - if I had fever, I'd go to the doc and be treated; if no fever, I'd work my way through it - even pleurisy - just kept walking and it would subside. I always look good to the clinician - good sat rate and vitals, so in other words asymptomatic to the doc. But asymptomatic wasn't really true. At home, for some time I began to have increased mucus to deal with. I did airway clearance, took Mucinex, ate well, but was becoming more fatigued and losing weight. I still could walk, but the weather and smoke impeded my efforts. This spring I caught something, was hospitalized with sepsis and productive heavy pneumonia. Discharged, relapsed, hospitalized, etc. With follow up, MAC Intracellular plus a Haemophilus infection were discovered. Big 3 treatment and Brinsupri are slowly helping, and I mean slow as in baby steps. I was told the MAC infection had progressed to the stage where it "bloomed", so my (now immunocompromised) system couldn't fight off the Haemophilus (opportunistic) infection. Should I have been treated while I was asymptomatic? I sure wish I would have pushed for it, but I didn't understand the significance of fatigue and increasing sputum as symptoms. Here it was the insidious MAC, gaining a firmer grip on me for months. Docs say I will never be rid of this, and as sick as I have been, I know considerably more damage has occurred. If anyone out there is wondering whether or not to treat, remember, MAC grows slowly at first, but then it can bloom, kind of like cancer does.

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I was diagnosis in 2019 (after double pneumonia) "Bronchiectasis in all five lobes". Obviously, this had been going on long before diagnosis. I've been a very dedicated walker for 40 years. I think whatever mucus I was producing then was coming up on its own through the effort of walking. I chalked the fatigue I was feeling to age, but this fatigue did impact my energy level. In the last two years, I began to develop more infections. Even these infections were manageable - if I had fever, I'd go to the doc and be treated; if no fever, I'd work my way through it - even pleurisy - just kept walking and it would subside. I always look good to the clinician - good sat rate and vitals, so in other words asymptomatic to the doc. But asymptomatic wasn't really true. At home, for some time I began to have increased mucus to deal with. I did airway clearance, took Mucinex, ate well, but was becoming more fatigued and losing weight. I still could walk, but the weather and smoke impeded my efforts. This spring I caught something, was hospitalized with sepsis and productive heavy pneumonia. Discharged, relapsed, hospitalized, etc. With follow up, MAC Intracellular plus a Haemophilus infection were discovered. Big 3 treatment and Brinsupri are slowly helping, and I mean slow as in baby steps. I was told the MAC infection had progressed to the stage where it "bloomed", so my (now immunocompromised) system couldn't fight off the Haemophilus (opportunistic) infection. Should I have been treated while I was asymptomatic? I sure wish I would have pushed for it, but I didn't understand the significance of fatigue and increasing sputum as symptoms. Here it was the insidious MAC, gaining a firmer grip on me for months. Docs say I will never be rid of this, and as sick as I have been, I know considerably more damage has occurred. If anyone out there is wondering whether or not to treat, remember, MAC grows slowly at first, but then it can bloom, kind of like cancer does.

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@ursala7
I want to affirm what the writers above have said. I had very few symptoms for years, and I still look healthy, though, like both of you, the MAC spread, etc. It does seem as if suddenly you're sick, but as you both clearly explain, it was there all along getting worse. It was never stressed to me by more first Infectious Disease doctor to do airway clearance. It was never mentioned. He couldn't figure out how I was so healthy, no symptoms, no coughing. Now I have lots of cavitary stuff, treeing out, etc. I'm winded walking, lots of mucus, more coughing. The 5 antibiotics I've been on for two years aren't giving me a negative sputum sample, including the year-long stint on amikacin and clofazimine, a usually very effective drug that research or university hospitals can prescribe. I hope others take to heart what you wrote!
Best regards,
Mokie

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My advice after dealing with bronchiectasis for a long time, become of a student of the disease. Learn as much as you can. Power through the information. Figure out what works for you in your life. There are no shortcuts. It's a manageable process. Start here.
https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/resources-for-the-abcs-on-bronchiectasis-and-mac-ntm/

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I have a similar story. My doctor at NJH said “treat, now”. I have a lot of damage on CT. It was his opinion that even though I felt fine, I would not continue to feel fine as the damage progressed and once the damage is done, it’s done. They want to slow that process as much as possible, hopefully retaining as much lung function as possible. We hear a lot about the importance of symptoms with regard to initiation of treatment, but the degree of damage on CT seems likewise significant. So even though I felt fine, the recommendation was to treat given the extent of damage on CT and the fact that it was actively progressing. I am surprised you are not being counseled to treat with progressing cavitary disease, regardless of symptoms. Is your treating doctor a true NTM expert? I would suggest getting another opinion as soon as possible.

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@bayarea58
Thanks a lot, I was lost and now I am trying to learn as much as possible and I cant understand why they decided not to start with the fig 3. It seems the doctor is expert on this, but due to my aparently good health, he was focused to identify other "guilty", but it seems it is the mycobacterya avium, no other reason, but due to that I lost months....

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Profile picture for Liz @ursala7

I was diagnosis in 2019 (after double pneumonia) "Bronchiectasis in all five lobes". Obviously, this had been going on long before diagnosis. I've been a very dedicated walker for 40 years. I think whatever mucus I was producing then was coming up on its own through the effort of walking. I chalked the fatigue I was feeling to age, but this fatigue did impact my energy level. In the last two years, I began to develop more infections. Even these infections were manageable - if I had fever, I'd go to the doc and be treated; if no fever, I'd work my way through it - even pleurisy - just kept walking and it would subside. I always look good to the clinician - good sat rate and vitals, so in other words asymptomatic to the doc. But asymptomatic wasn't really true. At home, for some time I began to have increased mucus to deal with. I did airway clearance, took Mucinex, ate well, but was becoming more fatigued and losing weight. I still could walk, but the weather and smoke impeded my efforts. This spring I caught something, was hospitalized with sepsis and productive heavy pneumonia. Discharged, relapsed, hospitalized, etc. With follow up, MAC Intracellular plus a Haemophilus infection were discovered. Big 3 treatment and Brinsupri are slowly helping, and I mean slow as in baby steps. I was told the MAC infection had progressed to the stage where it "bloomed", so my (now immunocompromised) system couldn't fight off the Haemophilus (opportunistic) infection. Should I have been treated while I was asymptomatic? I sure wish I would have pushed for it, but I didn't understand the significance of fatigue and increasing sputum as symptoms. Here it was the insidious MAC, gaining a firmer grip on me for months. Docs say I will never be rid of this, and as sick as I have been, I know considerably more damage has occurred. If anyone out there is wondering whether or not to treat, remember, MAC grows slowly at first, but then it can bloom, kind of like cancer does.

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@ursala7
Thanks! this help me a lot, all the best!

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@ursala7
I want to affirm what the writers above have said. I had very few symptoms for years, and I still look healthy, though, like both of you, the MAC spread, etc. It does seem as if suddenly you're sick, but as you both clearly explain, it was there all along getting worse. It was never stressed to me by more first Infectious Disease doctor to do airway clearance. It was never mentioned. He couldn't figure out how I was so healthy, no symptoms, no coughing. Now I have lots of cavitary stuff, treeing out, etc. I'm winded walking, lots of mucus, more coughing. The 5 antibiotics I've been on for two years aren't giving me a negative sputum sample, including the year-long stint on amikacin and clofazimine, a usually very effective drug that research or university hospitals can prescribe. I hope others take to heart what you wrote!
Best regards,
Mokie

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@mokie
Thanks a lot fot the info and for taking the time to answer, I hope they will find the correct treatmenr for you. And your experience help me a lot to have arguments to try to fight and to receive treatment.

All the best

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My advice after dealing with bronchiectasis for a long time, become of a student of the disease. Learn as much as you can. Power through the information. Figure out what works for you in your life. There are no shortcuts. It's a manageable process. Start here.
https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/resources-for-the-abcs-on-bronchiectasis-and-mac-ntm/

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@scoop
Thanks, since I discovered this website and group I am trying to do it.
Thanks a lot for all the info you shared!! I am reading all to try to do the correct questions to the doctors in my next appoitment, to know the reason why, having cavitary injuries they are waiting to start treatment...

Thanks!!

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Attached is link to video of presentation by Dr. Shannon Kasperbauer, Inf Disease, NJH on “Watchful Waiting” (Bronchiectasis and NTM Assoc “Coffee Break Educ Series” 7/1/26)

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Attached is link to video of presentation by Dr. Shannon Kasperbauer, Inf Disease, NJH on “Watchful Waiting” (Bronchiectasis and NTM Assoc “Coffee Break Educ Series” 7/1/26)

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@jgb1997
Thanks a lot!!!

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