do you have fatigue , muscle aches and shortness of breath?

With COVID and LC, I became habituated to staying it, not getting out to do anything other than switch from bed to sitting in front of computer, vegging. No energy to do anything else - the rut deepened.

Recently I learned from Dr. Andrew Huberman in interview with Shawn Ryan on YouTube that the single most important thing a person can do for their overall neuro-physical well-being is to get out into natural sunlight first thing in the day.

This triggers a cortisol response which, in turn, sets the biological clock for the release of melatonin at the right time for sleep. Within days, other changes gradually begin to occur. Those changes are defined clearly in the interview, and amount to a countdown of many of our symptoms!

I've been following this simple habit-change for less than a week - and I'm beginning to feel alive again, beginning to hope that I've turned a corner. I encourage you - look up the Shawn Ryan's interview (the whole version - not a clip or short) on YouTube - the interview is long and may take several sessions; have a pencil and pad handy. The first Q&A is short and to the point of morning sunlight and cortisol.

God bless - and let us all know how you do with this. OK?

Thank you for the information. I am excited to try any thing that is exercise, diet or natural remedy related to improve my health .

You said it perfectly. Please feel hugged from afar.

My pleasure and so glad I could help.

Like you and I suspect many of us, I'm more diet, exercise, and natural remedy oriented - to say nothing of my eroding confidence in trad medicine and the difficulty of finding providers who are at once good diagnosticians and willing to look toward the efficacy of other treatments.

I think people who are health-conscious have always been that way, to an extent, but mainstream medicine's treatment of COVID from start to the present time hasn't boosted our confidence in what trad med offers.

Sad to say, I've learned more about the effective treatmenty of my own LC symptoms here and through my own internet searches, word-of-mouth betwen friends, than I have though the entire medical comunity.

That is wrong.

Thankfully, through this forum we can help each other.

Fatigue hits me and then immobilizes me too often. I become short of breath and I have trouble walking. My legs can feel heavy. I contacted Long COVID in April of 2020, after I had been in training at a large international hotel in Ann Arbor, Michigan, and then flew back on a crowded flight. Within a couple of days, I became sick. My NP at the time laughed and said that I didn't have COVID and prescribed Pepto-Bismol for my symptoms. Needless to say, after severe brain fog, ongoing health issues, and 3 negative COVID nasal swab tests, I had a blood test which showed COVID anti-bodies. This month, I finished a 3rd long COVID study at Banner. I really had no support other than giving blood for numerous testing, doing mental acuity testing etc. There was little done in the follow-through to recommend other resources going forward. I do appreciate having this website available.

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I accidentally ran onto this site. Your symptoms especially the heavy legs , but others as well fit my
Symptoms. I cannot get dressed for the day without resting between each item. I make the bed and I’m down for the count. Only thing is I never had Covid long or short but I did take all the Covid injections. My friend same thing and he had all the symptoms I have. He went into a nursing home May 2025 and died October 2025. My symptoms showed this last December. So, could the injections be my culprit?

@barbmathews This is a study that I've shared with my many Covid doctors and it lead to finding answers for how to successfully treat me. UCLA began research on ‘spike protein’ reservoirs in LC patients and this was what they found: Scientists were able to isolate 65 different spike protein fragments in LC patients in the study which appeared to be ‘stored’ in packages throughout the body. The reservoirs for spike protein fragments storage and/or replication are called EVs. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2025/08/250811104235.htm

Germany picked up the gauntlet and they are hard at work on identifying how to clear the covid fragments that cause many issues in humans relative to their immunity system problems from spike proteins. https://www.mdpi.com/2076-393X/12/7/790

After my doctors read both studies, I asked the key question that unlocked answers: Is my immune system trashed? A blood draw for a T-Cell study lead to the discovery that I had little to no T-Cell CD8 cells. CD8 cells ‘take out the trash’. When a cell dies or when a virus or bacteria cell is ‘blown up’ into fragments by the ‘seek and destroy T-Cells’, the body’s natural immunity CD8 cells safely transport the dead cells and/or fragments of diseased cells out of the body through the blood and then the liver. For 4 years, I had plenty of seek and destroy T-Cells. The lab work at the 4 year point in this journey showed the cells were fighting a big infection but no CD8s to clear the trash out. For over 2 years, my sphenoid drainage was testing 'positive' for spike proteins but the doctors did not understand why. The sphenoid had become either the major storage organ or a replication factory for the left behind spike fragments in EV packet throughout my body in fat cells: sinus cavities, liver, muscles, stomach and connective tissues. The drainage into my gut of the yellow sinus drainage caused major failure of my biome system.

I have hope for all LC sufferers because at the 5 year point, my doctors were able to help.

Ask for a complete T-Cell study. In addition, even though it is a test only used for 'transplant patients, ask about blood work up for your TTV count. This is a virus cell that lives in about 90% of all humans and it normally is not a problem, but because it 'encodes' to mRNA (this means it can attach to mRNA and use it to replicate), it is being found in high levels in LC sufferers. Not sure if you have a rheumatologist, but this might be a consideration for the blood work ups on the health of your immune systems.

@barbmathews This is a study that I've shared with my many Covid doctors and it lead to finding answers for how to successfully treat me. UCLA began research on ‘spike protein’ reservoirs in LC patients and this was what they found: Scientists were able to isolate 65 different spike protein fragments in LC patients in the study which appeared to be ‘stored’ in packages throughout the body. The reservoirs for spike protein fragments storage and/or replication are called EVs. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2025/08/250811104235.htm

Germany picked up the gauntlet and they are hard at work on identifying how to clear the covid fragments that cause many issues in humans relative to their immunity system problems from spike proteins. https://www.mdpi.com/2076-393X/12/7/790

After my doctors read both studies, I asked the key question that unlocked answers: Is my immune system trashed? A blood draw for a T-Cell study lead to the discovery that I had little to no T-Cell CD8 cells. CD8 cells ‘take out the trash’. When a cell dies or when a virus or bacteria cell is ‘blown up’ into fragments by the ‘seek and destroy T-Cells’, the body’s natural immunity CD8 cells safely transport the dead cells and/or fragments of diseased cells out of the body through the blood and then the liver. For 4 years, I had plenty of seek and destroy T-Cells. The lab work at the 4 year point in this journey showed the cells were fighting a big infection but no CD8s to clear the trash out. For over 2 years, my sphenoid drainage was testing 'positive' for spike proteins but the doctors did not understand why. The sphenoid had become either the major storage organ or a replication factory for the left behind spike fragments in EV packet throughout my body in fat cells: sinus cavities, liver, muscles, stomach and connective tissues. The drainage into my gut of the yellow sinus drainage caused major failure of my biome system.

I have hope for all LC sufferers because at the 5 year point, my doctors were able to help.

Ask for a complete T-Cell study. In addition, even though it is a test only used for 'transplant patients, ask about blood work up for your TTV count. This is a virus cell that lives in about 90% of all humans and it normally is not a problem, but because it 'encodes' to mRNA (this means it can attach to mRNA and use it to replicate), it is being found in high levels in LC sufferers. Not sure if you have a rheumatologist, but this might be a consideration for the blood work ups on the health of your immune systems.