I think I have PMR and I’m terrified

Posted by martyn @martyn, 4 days ago

I’m new on here because I guess I’m desperately seeking some comfort. I’m 58, active, keen cyclist doing 100 miles a week and live tennis. Then , five weeks ago I started the excruciating arm and shoulder pains. Did not even know what PMR was then and still didn’t really think I had PMR even when a friend told me to read up about it. I just thought it was some nerve issue.. anyway, long story short, went to rheumatologist today and he said 90% it’s PMR and will do the steroid test over next 4 days to get a confirmed diagnosis.
I’ve spent all night reading about this horrible condition and I’m filled with dread and a little despair. I have been very touched by reading some of the testimonies on this forum and I guess I’m just looking for some positive thoughts as I set out on this PMR journey that until a few weeks ago I never even imagined. I feel so stuck because I know the morning pain (which eases by afternoon but never goes away) is totally debilitating but I’m also very concerned about the side effects of the corticosteroids. Has anyone tried to battle it without taking the drugs? And if I have to take the steroids how bad are the side effects? I feel in a very dark place and feel as though I’ve suddenly gone from being a fit and young at heart 50 something to old age in a heartbeat :..
I’m sure once this settles in I’ll get to grips with it as I’ve managed some pretty tough times with a back surgery that went wrong but this feels so unknown and sinister. Apologies for being on the side of melodramatic but any positivity anyone whom is dealing with PMR can send my way would be very welcome… take care of yourselves
Martyn

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Welcome (unfortunately) to the club. We all had the same feelings you have. Shock, disbelief, what does this mean going forward, what is forward?

The steroid test should let you know if you have PMR. That is if the dose is strong enough. For me, 40mg/day (half in the morning and half in the afternoon) had me feeling like Superman. I was looking for tall buildings to bound and steel bars to bend.

Then my doctor said, “Slow down buddy. We don’t want you taking that much for too long.”
That was when I was first introduced to the harmful effects of steroids. I probably took way too high a dosage for way too long. I went into this blindly.

Luckily for you, you are not going in blind. You’re a little bit informed and that’s better than most. You’re cautious to glucocorticoid usage, that’s good. And, you connected with a wonderful group of people who are sharing first-had experience, knowledge, and care. Yes, even advice which you should always discuss with your doctor first, but I found much of it helpful. Especially, with what to ask your doctor. There is a good discussion in this Support Group of a list of questions to ask your doctor. Make a list of questions, concerns, supplements, diet, exercise, and lifestyle changes that will get you through this asap.

Lastly (for now.) sleep is crucial. It is when our body repairs. Prednisone/corticosteroids/glucocorticoids can make sleep impossible. Talk with your doctor about help with that if it becomes an issue.

Keep a PMA, positive mental attitude and know that you are young and will get better.

I wish you the best.

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@stonewheel thank you!! I’ve been in full doom-spiral mode today and your message really gave me a huge lift . I’m doing 20mg for a few more days and then I see the rheumatologist again. My symptoms have improved dramatically although it’s a sort of mixed blessing as now I know I certainly have PMR!! I guess that’s the first bridge to cross. It’s so inspiring to have joined this support group and has totally restored my faith in the human race ! Thanks again and I hope to stay in touch and eventually start passing on positive encouragement to others who get this nasty shitty little condition !

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@dadcue My rheumatologist wanted me to start Actemra as soon as I was diagnosed, but it took 6 weeks to get it approved by my insurance and get it started at the specialty pharmacy.

I didn't have any adrenal issues while I was tapering prednisone, so I didn't expect any problems after I stopped. But looking back on it, I realize it probably took 6 months for my adrenal function to get back to full strength. I think not being able to exercise hard was an indicator of adrenal insufficiency. It like pressing hard on the gas pedal of your car and nothing happens.

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@jeff97

"I think not being able to exercise hard was an indicator of adrenal insufficiency. It is like pressing hard on the gas pedal of your car and nothing happens."
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I think you are right. I don't think a year or two of prednisone at PMR doses does too much harm. I would consider a year or two to be relatively "short term." Maybe that time frame with relatively lower doses decreases the time needed for the adrenals to recover.

Adrenal insufficiency causes exercise intolerance because the body cannot produce enough cortisol to meet the physical stress of exercise. Muscles weaken very quickly and energy reserves rapidly decrease leading to severe fatigue during or after physical activity.

Exercise intolerance was my single biggest somatic complaint on a low dose of prednisone when I was trying to taper off. I would get exhausted with minimal exertion. The worst advice I received was to take more prednisone which didn't help my adrenals to recover. More prednisone would make me "feel more normal" but my endocrinologist told me "normal people don't take prednisone to feel normal" unless they have adrenal insufficiency.

Actemra had PMR well controlled so that wasn't the problem. It still took me a long time after I tapered off prednisone but I gradually felt more normal. I'm adjusting for being 20 years older and out of shape--big belly which I still need to overcome.

I told my physical therapist how much improvement there was in my "recovery time after exercise" as well as being able to exercise longer.

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@stonewheel thank you!! I’ve been in full doom-spiral mode today and your message really gave me a huge lift . I’m doing 20mg for a few more days and then I see the rheumatologist again. My symptoms have improved dramatically although it’s a sort of mixed blessing as now I know I certainly have PMR!! I guess that’s the first bridge to cross. It’s so inspiring to have joined this support group and has totally restored my faith in the human race ! Thanks again and I hope to stay in touch and eventually start passing on positive encouragement to others who get this nasty shitty little condition !

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@martyn

"Then my doctor said, “Slow down buddy. We don’t want you taking that much for too long.”
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Thanks @stonewheel ---- Best advice ever! Stressing over it just adds fuel to the fire. You are relatively new ... how are you doing?

Everyone will be fine simply because we already know more than I did when I was first diagnosed. Take the prednisone... get PMR under control and into remission... then taper off prednisone. Just don't take prednisone too long but a couple of years at lower doses should be okay. The jury is still debating whether or not 5 mg or less does much harm.
https://www.everydayhealth.com/rheumatic-conditions/tapering-off-steroids-when-you-have-polymyalgia-rheumatica/

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@martyn

"Then my doctor said, “Slow down buddy. We don’t want you taking that much for too long.”
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Thanks @stonewheel ---- Best advice ever! Stressing over it just adds fuel to the fire. You are relatively new ... how are you doing?

Everyone will be fine simply because we already know more than I did when I was first diagnosed. Take the prednisone... get PMR under control and into remission... then taper off prednisone. Just don't take prednisone too long but a couple of years at lower doses should be okay. The jury is still debating whether or not 5 mg or less does much harm.
https://www.everydayhealth.com/rheumatic-conditions/tapering-off-steroids-when-you-have-polymyalgia-rheumatica/

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@dadcue I found that my metabolism only returned to normal about a month after I finished taking prednisone. While I was taking prednisone my metabolism felt sluggish, and I never knew what to eat or how much. After I recovered it seemed like my body started digesting food effectively again and burning off excess energy, instead of storing it away as fat. That was the biggest problem for me of low dose prednisone, plus the exercise resistance we discussed.

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@martyn

"Then my doctor said, “Slow down buddy. We don’t want you taking that much for too long.”
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Thanks @stonewheel ---- Best advice ever! Stressing over it just adds fuel to the fire. You are relatively new ... how are you doing?

Everyone will be fine simply because we already know more than I did when I was first diagnosed. Take the prednisone... get PMR under control and into remission... then taper off prednisone. Just don't take prednisone too long but a couple of years at lower doses should be okay. The jury is still debating whether or not 5 mg or less does much harm.
https://www.everydayhealth.com/rheumatic-conditions/tapering-off-steroids-when-you-have-polymyalgia-rheumatica/

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@dadcue (and @martyn FYI)
As you know, I started feeling it this time last year.
Toughed it out until October. Began 40mg Prednisone late Oct.
DVT in December.
Rheumatologist got Kevzara approved end of January due to DVT.
Fast taper began in April.
Down to 5mg in May.
It’s the end of August and have been taking 1mg for more than 2 weeks. Loaded weekly pill box this morning alternating 1, .5, 1, .5mg… every day for a week.
Next week all .5mg and 0mg after about 10 days.
Goal was to be off Prednisone by Sept. 1, but probably won’t happen until mid Sept.
Tried Kevzara at 3-week intervals in June-July, but that didn’t go well. CRP rose a bit and I felt it.
Sticking with 2-week self injections (no pun intended) until the end of the year 2026. 2027 will reveal itself.

@martin, I treated this, PMR, like it was boot camp. Learn all you can and apply what you learn. You know the goal. Set small goals to get there. There is plenty of help here.

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@dave923 Thanks for your reply and such a positive outlook. I've just read it again after a particularly gloomy afternoon in which my mind has become totally pre-occupied on what impact PMR is going to have on my life. I'm hoping that my age and general fitness levels will help me stayt active. I was really encouraged to read that you are cycling 100km as that's my sweet spot on a bike with a few hills thrown in. Maybe I'll have tomanage my expectations but as Eddie Merckx once said: “Ride as much or as little, as long or as short as you feel. But ride." thanks again and good luck to you

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@martyn Best line is “manage my expectations “……you nailed it.

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Kevzara has allowed me to taper off Prednisone after 3+ years of PMR. In the US Kevzara is only allowed for relapsing PMR patients, so my repeated tapers and resulting flares over a 3 year period qualified me — I’m not sure what is allowed in England. The original diagnosis of PMR was shocking to me as well, but the condition was SO agonizing that I was relieved anything could combat it. The more I learned, the calmer I became about this very unwelcome condition and I was particularly helped by the posts on this Mayo Clinic site.

Take heart as you learn more about it. Untreated
and prior to diagnosis was one of the worst times of my life, but treatment with prednisone and then Kevzara (a shot every 2 weeks rather than pills every day) has made life livable again. You have lots of fellow travelers.

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@pokey
Kevzara is also allowed for patients unable to take prednisone due to secondary disorders. I was diagnosed with SMM two months after my PMR diagnosis. My SMM can't be properly monitored while on prednisone because it suppresses the results of a bone marrow biopsy.

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@martyn
yes, the symptoms fluctuate/vary in intensity every day before on prednisone and after starting prednisone but regardless things are worst in the morning. You will learn this quite quickly. It's all right to "disobey" somewhat the instructions from your doc. I started on 12.5 mg. My doc said yesterday it's not an exact science; the amount you start with and how you taper off the drug and you have to work together as a team, as well as experiment. As mentioned all the time on this forum, every PMR patient plots a different course and everyone is impatient and wants to get off prednisone as quickly as possible. But it's important to be patient. I tried 2 quick tapers already and learned a lot both times what I can handle and what I can't manage. Now I've got a third strategy set up with my doc yesterday. I just came back from a 40 mile 1400 m elevation gain cycling ride up Mt Seymour in Vancouver, my hometown. I haven't had any heart issues like @dadcue or max HR issues like @jeff97 in working out. I'm heading on a cycling trip to south of France in 3 weeks. I am definitely scared of the unknown territory being on prednisone and trying to taper down with 9 hour jetlag! Normally, I rest a day or 2 before going back at cycling but I'll have to do 7 days straight there. Hopefully, disaster won't strike! Let us know if 15 mg has helped resolve your pain/stiffness/discomfort

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@dave923 Thanks Dave. Great to hear accounts of people still doing striong rides despite PMR and Pred....I'm only at the very beginning of this but ewill heed your example. One question....I feel that 20mg is quite a stroing initial does for me, although that being said i think to some extent that';s just to prove i have PMR as I said in my original post. My sypmtoms have vanished. I'm not delusional but i hope that maybe like you I can start at something lower like 12.5mg. I just feel that starting at that reduces the tapering time. Or is that just too simplistic. I guess the body will tell you?

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@martyn

"Then my doctor said, “Slow down buddy. We don’t want you taking that much for too long.”
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Thanks @stonewheel ---- Best advice ever! Stressing over it just adds fuel to the fire. You are relatively new ... how are you doing?

Everyone will be fine simply because we already know more than I did when I was first diagnosed. Take the prednisone... get PMR under control and into remission... then taper off prednisone. Just don't take prednisone too long but a couple of years at lower doses should be okay. The jury is still debating whether or not 5 mg or less does much harm.
https://www.everydayhealth.com/rheumatic-conditions/tapering-off-steroids-when-you-have-polymyalgia-rheumatica/

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@dadcue I may have mentioned before, not sure, but my Aunt, who turns 91 next month has been on 4mgs pred daily as a maintenance dose for over 20 years for PMR. My rheumatologist has told me 5 mgs and below is a common maintenance dose not just for PMR and GCA like I have but many other autoimmune diseases. I'm at 6 mgs trying to get back to 5 after a flare and if I manage to get there I will stay there for quite awhile. My bloodwork is overall stable but have awful fatigue which I think is from the adrenal glands trying to wake up.

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Hi Martyn: I was diagnosed in July 2025 with PMR. I was then 54 years old and a very active Asian female. After doing a slow, prednisone taper, I finished in May of this year, after 11 months without any relapses or flares. I am now in remission. I also lost 4 pounds while on oral prednisone. Initially, both my rheumatologist and primary physician kept insisting that I did not have PMR due to my age and the fact that all of my inflammatory lab results were normal. However, I had all of the physical symptoms, including bilateral hip girdle and shoulder pain, muscle stiffness, shoulder bursitis and chronic fatigue. After x-rays showed I did not have arthritis in those areas, I asked my rheumatologist to prescribe oral prednisone for my symptoms.

I don't believe your 20 mg is too much. The dosage you are likely given is likely based on your weight. I was 107 pounds and 5 foot two and my doctor prescribed 20 mg to start with. She wanted me to be off prednisone in three months and I refused as research shows that an abrupt, fast taper will lead to relapses and flares.

I practically designed my own treatment. Within 48 hours of taking prednisone, all of my symptoms went away, except my pre-existing back issues/facet arthrophy and mild right shoulder bursitis. I then tapered down to 15 mg after two weeks, then down to 10 mg another two weeks. After that, I reduced my prednisone dosage by 1 mg per month which is why it eventually took me 11 months to taper off prednisone. I also continued with my physical regimen, including light weight training, core exercise exercises for my back, walking, etc.

I was fully aware that one of the side effects of oral prednisone is it makes you feel hungry even though you are actually full. I became very aware of my hunger pangs and ate as healthy as possible. Because of the prednisone, I became prediabetic and my cholesterol levels increased. I did not take any medication for those, but I managed them with my food choices and intake, I also had disrupted sleep and slight hair shedding. All of the prednisone side effects disappeared, and leveled back to normal when I tapered off prednisone this May. Throughout my prednisone treatment I asked my doctors to order labs/blood tests (sed-rate, CRProtein, potassium, lipids, triglycerides, etc) every month at least a week before I tapered down to the lower dosage.

Please do not abruptly stop taking prednisone, even if you think you feel better. That is the absolute worst thing you can do. Stick with a slow taper and, hopefully, you might have little or no flares like myself. Both of my doctors are now fully on board with my PMR diagnosis and the course of treatment I chose for myself. Instead of relying on the inflammation lab results which mine were always normal, we track my physical symptoms and my response to the prednisone.

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