Pemphigus Vulgaris: What treatment helps you?
Anyone suffering with Pemphigus Vulgaris, please tell me how to get treatment.
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Anyone suffering with Pemphigus Vulgaris, please tell me how to get treatment.
Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the Autoimmune Diseases Support Group.
Welcome, @raypauls1. I'm tagging other members like @darden708 @cicimee2 @darden708 @glongdmd @barbarajesse to join this discussion about pemphigus vulgaris and treatment. They can share their experiences and what has helped them.
Many people with pemphigus get better, especially if treatment is started early. But it may take years and can require taking medicine for a long time.
Raypauls, is this a new diagnosis for you? What treatment has been recommended?
I have bullous pemphigoid and muscus membrane pemphigoid. My skin is doing good at the present time. For my mouth, I had a tray made for my upper and lower gums. I use Clobetasol Propuonate gel. My mouth is a lot better. My gums are also improving. Good Doctors really help.
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1 ReactionGreetings, I have either PV or MMP but my 2 dermatologists can't agree on which. I think it is PV. Treatment from the start was prednisone because I had no idea what it was. It's not a common disease. It is significantly worse intraorally in my case. Minor skin bullae in the early going. Once I got the dermatologist involved I was put on Dapsone 25mg,4 tabs a day initially. Dapsone is actually a sulfone antibiotic which has some significant antiinflammatory actions. Very well tolerated. I used clobetasol on the skin lesions but they were never a big part of my experience and have all but completely resolved and im going on 4 years post onset. After some research I started using a mouthrinse of 2 parts distilled water, 1 part Peroxyl mouthrinse and 1 part DMSO. DMSO has known and documented antiinflammatory properties and a huge safety profile. It has worked better for me than anything else in the mouth. I would say that at this point in the process I am 85% better than initially with only minor tweaking of the Dapsone dosage and increased rinse usage during the uncommon outbreaks that occur very infrequently. I have asked my doctors about Rituximab infusions but they seem to be reluctant to use it. Actually, at this point I don't know if I really want to pursue it due to the significant response to the current treatment. I still have to behave as far as dietary selection. I would kill for a handful of potato chips but that would be asking for trouble. Really acidic items can be uncomfortable but manageable. I have recently started a semi vegan diet to reduce gluten as I hear that has helped some folks. I recommend doing a lot of reading. This condition is not encountered much by physicians or dentists and treatment varies greatly. If you can avoid corticosteroids longterm I would do it.
Hi raypauls1 and anyone else dealing with Pemphigus Vulgaris. I was 49 and it started with a few bloody nose episodes. I went to an Ent who cauterized the spot and I felt okay. A few weeks later I was on vacation in Spain when sores appeared in my mouth. It was very difficult to eat especially hot or crunchy food. I suffered through the vacation and on arrival home, I went back to the Ent with my sore mouth. Ent knew I had Pemphigus Vulgaris and immediately took a biopsy and sent it off to Yale University. To my surprise, I needed to see a dermatologist and made an appointment with a well known doctor who treated this immune disorder. Anyone finding out they have an immune disorder is life changing when you are told there is no cure. I was put on 60 mgs of prednisone once a day which didn’t work. Then I was put on 100 mgs and my heart was pounding out of my chest. I personally lowered my dose back to 60 mgs as I felt hopeless and had to hold down a job at the same time. IVIG had just been discovered and my doctor arranged for me to receive this treatment at NYU Langone Hospital for 5 days in a row. It didn’t make a difference. I decided to change doctors and went to Yale University, My new dermatologist prescribed Imuran and I lost a significant amount of my hair with no change. He then put me on Cyclosporin and that didn’t work either. Prednisone was lowered to 20 mgs and this new doctor scheduled me for IVIG once a month for 3 days. The sores improved in my mouth but never gone completely. I had sores in my esophagus and luckily, never on my skin. I did this treatment, all the while decreasing prednisone down to 5 mgs for 3 1/2 years. I left the Yale doctor and finally had a dermatologist suggest I try the monoclonal antibody infusion called Rituxan. Before I agreed to this treatment, I went to Johns Hopkins in Baltimore to see the doctor who was using Rituxan on his Pemphigus Vulgaris patients. . He was very positive I would have no side effects and that it would work for me. I went back to my home in Connecticut and my dermatologist set up the Rituxan infusions, once a week for 4 weeks. By second week, my mouth sores were healing and by the end of my fourth week they were gone. 6 months later, I had the infusions one last time while weaning off of prednisone. That was May 2005 and I have been in remission since November 2004. I am telling you my story to give you hope and determination to cope with and get yourself into remission. I went through 3 dermatologists until I found the doctor who had faith in Rituxan working for me. Good luck and hope my story helps you. If you have any questions, please let me know.
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1 Reaction@darden708 thank you for the information I will ask my dermatologist about the mouth trays.
@barbarajesse Thank you so much. Your story has given me hope, for the first time, since this nightmare began.
@colleenyoung
I have just had my 1st Retuximab infusion after being on Myfortic for 4 months with minimum benefit. Had a reaction which was managed well by staff and I was able to complete the course. No real side effects to mention, not even a lot of fatigue so far. I know I am in for the long haul but I will continue fighting this condition looking for relief and even remission. Best to all. C
@barbarajesse
You are amazing and I understand the learning curve involved. I was diagnosed in Feb of this year after years of frustrating misdirection by dentists and periodontists. Never knew the mucosa is considered skin, therefore a Derm is the answer. I am on my second one and quite satisfied with him. I am pleased you finally were able to get Retuximab. I have just started it and I am hopeful, even more so after your story. You are the first person I have heard that has achieved Remission. Congratulations for your courage and determination. !! My goal is an enchilada!! Thank you for sharing. C