Reducing predisone side effects
I have reduced my predisone from. 5 to 4 and am experiencing nausea, dizziness and slight headache. I reduced a week ago and am still experiencing these side effects. Is this normal?
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@kjoed53
Well, not exactly. My rheumatologist sends my PCP a very detailed letter about what we dicussed, his assessment and the instructions. I saw her a few weeks ago and told her I did not follow his taper plan. (She chuckled a little and said "what did you do?) I was supposed to alternate 3 and 2 mg. Did not specify for how long and my next appointment was 6 months. Maybe I'm still supposed to be alternating. I attempted and succeeded to get to 2mg. I was having trouble with the logic. Maybe alternating that long had something to do with adrenal function. Not sure. When I told her what I did, she said to stay at 2mg til I see him so that's what I'm doing.
There are many rheumaloloists at UPMC all with various specializations along with general rheumatology. The only physician/professor with a special interest in pmr was Dr Sattui and he has moved on. My rheumatologist's expertise is myositis. He is very well regarded and an excellent Dr.. Pmr is not textbook with ever revolving complications.. I would like to be off prednisone but the lowest possible dose where I am pain free, without complications might be my best bet.
@pmrsuzie
I'm not sure what the alternating dosage is supposed to do either unless it's to try to trigger the adrenals. My rheumatologist is just talking about a straight taper, but my situation is different because I was diagnosed with SMM in May so I need to taper down to 5mg or less for my next blood work in August. I'm also on 3mg LDN to help with the pain until I get approved for kevzara.
@dadcue
Whenever a doctor prescribes blood work, they will be informed. Whether or not you make the appointment on your own, they provide the script.
@eltje I believe the weight gain will solve itself as appetite is not goin to stay same level. I also started to mostly cut out wheat and sugar , not for weight reduction but rather for inflammation reduction and have lost weight automatically
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1 Reaction@dvorahberlin Thank you.
I feel my appetite is a little improved with the tapering too.
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1 Reaction@kjoed53 I;ve read that adrenals start to wake up at 7.5. How did your appointment go? Mine is this afternoon.
@mp71
Supposedly our adrenals produce the cortisol equivalent of taking between 5 and 7.5mg prednisone. I'll be at 5mg when I see my rheumatologist next. That is the magic number that satisfies both my rheumatologist and my hematologist-oncologist in the tapering process. I'm awaiting blood work results to submit to my insurer for kevzara. Everything should be available by tomorrow and hopefully I will get approved sometime next week. When I reach 5mg prednisone, we'll see how I feel before testing adrenal function. I also got a prescription renewal for 90 days of 3mg LDN to relieve some of the tapering pain. How was your appointment?
@mp71
The physiological dose of prednisone ranges from 3 to 7 mg daily. It is probably closer to 5 mg which is the amount of prednisone that "adequately replaces" the amount of cortisol the body needs every day. It depends on the day and the amount of stress you experience which is why cortisol is called the "stress hormone."
I think 7 mg is not quite enough Prednisone to handle something stressful so that is when we start to have symptoms of a low cortisol level. I also think it explains why so many of us have a flare when we reach 7 mg of Prednisone when something stressful happens.
An endocrinologist told me I had to remain on a Prednisone dose of 3 mg or less for an extended period of time in order for my adrenals to start to function again.
Some sources say 3 mg of Prednisone is the"physiological" dose, meaning it mimics the amount of cortisol the adrenal make during "low stress" days. The adrenals are capable of producing much more cortisol when stress is high. In any case you need to be less than the physiological dose for the adrenals to begin to wake up.
The adrenals don't wake up very quickly so it takes a long time to taper off Prednisone. When my cortisol level was low, I was told not to taper my Prednisone dose any lower than 3 mg for as long as it took for my cortisol level to improve. Meanwhile, I was told not to increase my Prednisone dose unless I absolutely needed to. It was difficult to stay on 3 mg when someone else said to increase my prednisone dose for "niggles of pain."
@dadcue
I'm on 3mg LDN to help offset some of the returning pain and it helps me to sleep. I'll probably be stopping at 5mg for two weeks and then tapering slowly based on how I respond.