Depression, fibromyalgia and spinal degeneration

Posted by virtuous69 @virtuous69, Jul 20, 2017

Hello. I have Fibro and moderate to severe spinal degeneration, age 69 and husband 78. I've had to let our once per month housecleaner and once per month gardener go due to loss of income. We live in Silicon Valley way beyond our income and due to my illness, can't keep house up.Its trashed. Husband works 3 days per week. End of month is scary financially and husband gets very depressed, sarcastic and a real worry wort. His depression sinks me down like I'm drowning. His company took all medical and vacation/sick time away from grandfathered in employees. I can't take walks due to degenerative back, we have our Christian faith, but I honestly need to get away from my husband sometimes. My best friend and other confidents have died or moved away. Both of us need to have some fun. Our beautiful church and home group of 15 years has disbanded....they were like family. No money, no health...struggling to keep a cheerful and grateful attitude. Our PC doc gives me a mild anti -depression med. Husband is losing his hearing and that causes all kinds of arguments.But doc doesn't give him anything to keep him calm.. There is no free counseling or housekeeping help available to us. I take Advil and Norco for my pain. It's like just waiting for the grave. ---Virtuous69

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@catgic

@virtuous Dori - Fortunately, the "Helper Gremlins" of MayoConnect delivered your typo'ed @ catgig to @catgic, me. Thank you for the "Blessings." Clearly, you all have had, and are having a tough medical and financial row to hoe. It appears that you have the yin and yang of your marital relationship with your husband worked out to your mutual satisfaction...this is good.

FYI: In both my professional Warfighting Navy life and Techno-Geek life, I have lived and worked in Silicon Valley...Moffett-Sunnyvale, Mountain View, and Palo Alto, and the contiguous area, thereto. So my bride of 55 Blissful Emerald "Double Nickels" years and I are quite familiar with the Silicon Valley & San Francisco Peninsula area, culture, and cost of living. We also had occasion to have resided for a couple years, 90-miles down the PCH in Monterey-Carmel.

In the highest traditions of 1960's Hippy Dippy Culture let me encourage you to Keep On Keeping' On facing your challenges. We shall put you all in our prayers.

As I write this note to you, Big Bad & Über Blustery CAT 5+ Hurricane Irma has the State of Florida in her cross-hairs. Irma is still many days away from wherever she may be headed, but it has not stopped CNN, FoxNEWS, the local media, the public leadership from stirring the up the Florida citizenry into an anticipatory frenzy of fear. Back in the simpler, innocent "Good Old Small Government" times, folks were told buy some candles, to fill their bath tubs up to the top with water, and hunker down to ride out The Big Blow. For the record, my wife and I are not one of those "Citizen Chickens Running Around With Our Heads Cut Off." We have been there and done that before.

Let me share a personal hurricane-related anecdote. Back in September 1960, a month after I first met my Teen Queen Goddess Wife, I was a 19-years old teenaged @catgic sailor who was baptized into Florida Hurricane living with a heavy-weather Hurricane “Donna” drenching down on Boca Chica Key in the Florida Keys. Donna blew through the Florida Key, and in the process, blew out the main water line supplying the Florida Keys with water from up Miami way. Without plentiful running fresh water available, I had to wash my person and sweat-soaked Navy Dungarees in the ocean surf of the Florida Straits off Key West using special “Navy Issue Salt Water Soap.” This salt-water washing ritually completed my King Neptune Baptism to make me a lifelong favored Shellback’ed acolyte of King Neptune and the Weather Gods from then on. Bottom-Line…@catgic Knowz Hurricanes (Earth Quakes & Other Random Acts Of God & Man), and never has, and does not, live in fear of any of them.

Anyhoo, I remain the “Honey Do Love Slave For Life” to my “Honey, When You Have Time...Can You…???” Goddess Wife, and all is right in the world.

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Hi @virtuous Dori, Thanks for asking about our children in Florida. They have decided to stay there. Hopefully it will be OK as they are inland in Central Florida and have made some solid preparations. Our daughter-in-law is a special needs teacher and wanted to remain where she could be close to her students. Our son was up well before dawn providing transportation to shelters for those who cannot drive, have no car, are in care facilities, etc. His organization has been deemed a critical service so he stayed as well. They have spaces at a shelter along with some MREs just in case -- plus a spot in a pet-friendly shelter for their golden retriever.

I am in northern Minnesota visiting my wife's family and will have to check the Indiana fire situation! Thanks for the heads-up! Up here we have a surprising amount of smoke and particulates in the air from the wildfires in Montana, Wyoming, and Canada. Not a good thing, but a side benefit has been some very pretty sunsets! I've attached one from last night.

I am finding the solitude and the change of seasons up here to be good medicine for me. The 'season' is over up here so all is quiet and I have always found my soul refreshes and repairs when I am out seeing Mother Nature's handiwork. Plus I have not been here for over 7 years so I have missed it greatly. Funny how a colorful leaf can be so amazing. Plus just this morning I saw white-tail deer, rabbits, a great horned owl, and three pileated woodpeckers. I remember well when our children were in their single digits walking these woods in search of their favorite fungi -- puffball mushrooms! They thought they were magic and I still do 🙂

I hope all is going OK with you. Thanks again for reaching out and asking!

Prayers to all those in Florida and the Caribbean as Jose seems intent on chasing Irma!

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@catgic

@virtuous Dori - Fortunately, the "Helper Gremlins" of MayoConnect delivered your typo'ed @ catgig to @catgic, me. Thank you for the "Blessings." Clearly, you all have had, and are having a tough medical and financial row to hoe. It appears that you have the yin and yang of your marital relationship with your husband worked out to your mutual satisfaction...this is good.

FYI: In both my professional Warfighting Navy life and Techno-Geek life, I have lived and worked in Silicon Valley...Moffett-Sunnyvale, Mountain View, and Palo Alto, and the contiguous area, thereto. So my bride of 55 Blissful Emerald "Double Nickels" years and I are quite familiar with the Silicon Valley & San Francisco Peninsula area, culture, and cost of living. We also had occasion to have resided for a couple years, 90-miles down the PCH in Monterey-Carmel.

In the highest traditions of 1960's Hippy Dippy Culture let me encourage you to Keep On Keeping' On facing your challenges. We shall put you all in our prayers.

As I write this note to you, Big Bad & Über Blustery CAT 5+ Hurricane Irma has the State of Florida in her cross-hairs. Irma is still many days away from wherever she may be headed, but it has not stopped CNN, FoxNEWS, the local media, the public leadership from stirring the up the Florida citizenry into an anticipatory frenzy of fear. Back in the simpler, innocent "Good Old Small Government" times, folks were told buy some candles, to fill their bath tubs up to the top with water, and hunker down to ride out The Big Blow. For the record, my wife and I are not one of those "Citizen Chickens Running Around With Our Heads Cut Off." We have been there and done that before.

Let me share a personal hurricane-related anecdote. Back in September 1960, a month after I first met my Teen Queen Goddess Wife, I was a 19-years old teenaged @catgic sailor who was baptized into Florida Hurricane living with a heavy-weather Hurricane “Donna” drenching down on Boca Chica Key in the Florida Keys. Donna blew through the Florida Key, and in the process, blew out the main water line supplying the Florida Keys with water from up Miami way. Without plentiful running fresh water available, I had to wash my person and sweat-soaked Navy Dungarees in the ocean surf of the Florida Straits off Key West using special “Navy Issue Salt Water Soap.” This salt-water washing ritually completed my King Neptune Baptism to make me a lifelong favored Shellback’ed acolyte of King Neptune and the Weather Gods from then on. Bottom-Line…@catgic Knowz Hurricanes (Earth Quakes & Other Random Acts Of God & Man), and never has, and does not, live in fear of any of them.

Anyhoo, I remain the “Honey Do Love Slave For Life” to my “Honey, When You Have Time...Can You…???” Goddess Wife, and all is right in the world.

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Scott, just sent you along post , so glad to hear about kids hunting down and your lovely morning walk. Was just signing off after I took me half an hour to create this post and then may I sent me an error message sa@ying sorry we're having trouble sending this message. Aggg it took me forever to create the post and then it goes and gets lost in the Twilight Zone because Mayo says sorry we're having trouble sending this post. Boy do I feel like Stuck on Stupid and I'm very angry I don't have time to resend and resend post I have some delightful comments I want to send to you and now I'm really discouraged because I spent all this time trying to create a reply and then Mayo kicks it out of the system. Will try again later to respond to your post about your kids. Respectfully virtuous 69

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@catgic

@virtuous Dori - Fortunately, the "Helper Gremlins" of MayoConnect delivered your typo'ed @ catgig to @catgic, me. Thank you for the "Blessings." Clearly, you all have had, and are having a tough medical and financial row to hoe. It appears that you have the yin and yang of your marital relationship with your husband worked out to your mutual satisfaction...this is good.

FYI: In both my professional Warfighting Navy life and Techno-Geek life, I have lived and worked in Silicon Valley...Moffett-Sunnyvale, Mountain View, and Palo Alto, and the contiguous area, thereto. So my bride of 55 Blissful Emerald "Double Nickels" years and I are quite familiar with the Silicon Valley & San Francisco Peninsula area, culture, and cost of living. We also had occasion to have resided for a couple years, 90-miles down the PCH in Monterey-Carmel.

In the highest traditions of 1960's Hippy Dippy Culture let me encourage you to Keep On Keeping' On facing your challenges. We shall put you all in our prayers.

As I write this note to you, Big Bad & Über Blustery CAT 5+ Hurricane Irma has the State of Florida in her cross-hairs. Irma is still many days away from wherever she may be headed, but it has not stopped CNN, FoxNEWS, the local media, the public leadership from stirring the up the Florida citizenry into an anticipatory frenzy of fear. Back in the simpler, innocent "Good Old Small Government" times, folks were told buy some candles, to fill their bath tubs up to the top with water, and hunker down to ride out The Big Blow. For the record, my wife and I are not one of those "Citizen Chickens Running Around With Our Heads Cut Off." We have been there and done that before.

Let me share a personal hurricane-related anecdote. Back in September 1960, a month after I first met my Teen Queen Goddess Wife, I was a 19-years old teenaged @catgic sailor who was baptized into Florida Hurricane living with a heavy-weather Hurricane “Donna” drenching down on Boca Chica Key in the Florida Keys. Donna blew through the Florida Key, and in the process, blew out the main water line supplying the Florida Keys with water from up Miami way. Without plentiful running fresh water available, I had to wash my person and sweat-soaked Navy Dungarees in the ocean surf of the Florida Straits off Key West using special “Navy Issue Salt Water Soap.” This salt-water washing ritually completed my King Neptune Baptism to make me a lifelong favored Shellback’ed acolyte of King Neptune and the Weather Gods from then on. Bottom-Line…@catgic Knowz Hurricanes (Earth Quakes & Other Random Acts Of God & Man), and never has, and does not, live in fear of any of them.

Anyhoo, I remain the “Honey Do Love Slave For Life” to my “Honey, When You Have Time...Can You…???” Goddess Wife, and all is right in the world.

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Words should say hunkering down and see many other typo s .So mad that Mayo Connect drops so many of my well written posts. Will post you again later as I has some humerous replies to those pb sandwiches. Please pray that I get the gist of why some of my posts go "kerflunct" respectfully, Virtuous69 or temporarily Stuck on Stupid.

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@catgic

@virtuous Dori - Fortunately, the "Helper Gremlins" of MayoConnect delivered your typo'ed @ catgig to @catgic, me. Thank you for the "Blessings." Clearly, you all have had, and are having a tough medical and financial row to hoe. It appears that you have the yin and yang of your marital relationship with your husband worked out to your mutual satisfaction...this is good.

FYI: In both my professional Warfighting Navy life and Techno-Geek life, I have lived and worked in Silicon Valley...Moffett-Sunnyvale, Mountain View, and Palo Alto, and the contiguous area, thereto. So my bride of 55 Blissful Emerald "Double Nickels" years and I are quite familiar with the Silicon Valley & San Francisco Peninsula area, culture, and cost of living. We also had occasion to have resided for a couple years, 90-miles down the PCH in Monterey-Carmel.

In the highest traditions of 1960's Hippy Dippy Culture let me encourage you to Keep On Keeping' On facing your challenges. We shall put you all in our prayers.

As I write this note to you, Big Bad & Über Blustery CAT 5+ Hurricane Irma has the State of Florida in her cross-hairs. Irma is still many days away from wherever she may be headed, but it has not stopped CNN, FoxNEWS, the local media, the public leadership from stirring the up the Florida citizenry into an anticipatory frenzy of fear. Back in the simpler, innocent "Good Old Small Government" times, folks were told buy some candles, to fill their bath tubs up to the top with water, and hunker down to ride out The Big Blow. For the record, my wife and I are not one of those "Citizen Chickens Running Around With Our Heads Cut Off." We have been there and done that before.

Let me share a personal hurricane-related anecdote. Back in September 1960, a month after I first met my Teen Queen Goddess Wife, I was a 19-years old teenaged @catgic sailor who was baptized into Florida Hurricane living with a heavy-weather Hurricane “Donna” drenching down on Boca Chica Key in the Florida Keys. Donna blew through the Florida Key, and in the process, blew out the main water line supplying the Florida Keys with water from up Miami way. Without plentiful running fresh water available, I had to wash my person and sweat-soaked Navy Dungarees in the ocean surf of the Florida Straits off Key West using special “Navy Issue Salt Water Soap.” This salt-water washing ritually completed my King Neptune Baptism to make me a lifelong favored Shellback’ed acolyte of King Neptune and the Weather Gods from then on. Bottom-Line…@catgic Knowz Hurricanes (Earth Quakes & Other Random Acts Of God & Man), and never has, and does not, live in fear of any of them.

Anyhoo, I remain the “Honey Do Love Slave For Life” to my “Honey, When You Have Time...Can You…???” Goddess Wife, and all is right in the world.

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Hi @virtuous,
Please see my private messages to you. I can help you with how the website functions and how to prevent dropping messages.

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@catgic and everyone. Hey guys, I am suffering multiple terrible teeth abscess pain no dental coverage or funds for required treatment, and I'm in agonizing pain, unable to think straight.. so much I've left undone trying to register new home and cell phone putting out one fire after another, and being a disappointment to my husband. I find Scott in Indiana to be very refreeshing, and other poster probably in the Mac/Mai group basically said something like cowgirl up, because she is NOT DEPRESSED. Well goody for her, I have met some wonderful people on this forum, and unfortuanately when I forgot my Mayo password, the system created another account which Colleen is trying to help me with. I don't feel like being online anymore after spending mega hours correcting passwords for several accts and have to fix the Experian or
Equifax credit acct. I don't feel well, and I love you all. So be kind to one another. Victorious69 or @ virtuous, I am not even sure who I am. Blessings, Dori

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@catgic

@virtuous Dori - Fortunately, the "Helper Gremlins" of MayoConnect delivered your typo'ed @ catgig to @catgic, me. Thank you for the "Blessings." Clearly, you all have had, and are having a tough medical and financial row to hoe. It appears that you have the yin and yang of your marital relationship with your husband worked out to your mutual satisfaction...this is good.

FYI: In both my professional Warfighting Navy life and Techno-Geek life, I have lived and worked in Silicon Valley...Moffett-Sunnyvale, Mountain View, and Palo Alto, and the contiguous area, thereto. So my bride of 55 Blissful Emerald "Double Nickels" years and I are quite familiar with the Silicon Valley & San Francisco Peninsula area, culture, and cost of living. We also had occasion to have resided for a couple years, 90-miles down the PCH in Monterey-Carmel.

In the highest traditions of 1960's Hippy Dippy Culture let me encourage you to Keep On Keeping' On facing your challenges. We shall put you all in our prayers.

As I write this note to you, Big Bad & Über Blustery CAT 5+ Hurricane Irma has the State of Florida in her cross-hairs. Irma is still many days away from wherever she may be headed, but it has not stopped CNN, FoxNEWS, the local media, the public leadership from stirring the up the Florida citizenry into an anticipatory frenzy of fear. Back in the simpler, innocent "Good Old Small Government" times, folks were told buy some candles, to fill their bath tubs up to the top with water, and hunker down to ride out The Big Blow. For the record, my wife and I are not one of those "Citizen Chickens Running Around With Our Heads Cut Off." We have been there and done that before.

Let me share a personal hurricane-related anecdote. Back in September 1960, a month after I first met my Teen Queen Goddess Wife, I was a 19-years old teenaged @catgic sailor who was baptized into Florida Hurricane living with a heavy-weather Hurricane “Donna” drenching down on Boca Chica Key in the Florida Keys. Donna blew through the Florida Key, and in the process, blew out the main water line supplying the Florida Keys with water from up Miami way. Without plentiful running fresh water available, I had to wash my person and sweat-soaked Navy Dungarees in the ocean surf of the Florida Straits off Key West using special “Navy Issue Salt Water Soap.” This salt-water washing ritually completed my King Neptune Baptism to make me a lifelong favored Shellback’ed acolyte of King Neptune and the Weather Gods from then on. Bottom-Line…@catgic Knowz Hurricanes (Earth Quakes & Other Random Acts Of God & Man), and never has, and does not, live in fear of any of them.

Anyhoo, I remain the “Honey Do Love Slave For Life” to my “Honey, When You Have Time...Can You…???” Goddess Wife, and all is right in the world.

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No reason to feel 'dumb' @virtuous This happens to me frequently too! I get typing fast and my lazy hand sweeps across some odd combination of keys and all my typing disappears! It is a good thing Connect doesn't have audio or there would be some pretty blue words you'd hear when that happens! When time is of the essence it is tough to lose anything! Just yesterday I was late leaving to get to an appointment and naturally that was when I couldn't find my ding-dong car keys! I raced around for at least 20 minutes looking only to finally find that I had already taken them out to the car and put them in the ignition! ARRGGHHH!

Just heard from our son that he is out with his team running the last buses for folks to shelters. He will run until 10 am then he is calling a stop and will shelter. Waiting he says is nerve wracking and he is pleased to have something to focus on for a couple hours.

Sure am thinking about everyone in Florida today!

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@virtuous69

Hello, Virtuous69 here. Re: straightening out my two accts that really surprised me that @virtuous got created.......Did all on my smart phone. Going to my laptop now to look for Colleen Young,'s reply/advise to merge my two accts to Virtuous69. My smart phone sometimes flips around. BTW. Since I've started a depression discussion, for those of you who have difficult daily protocols like Mac/Mai, have amazing health issues, but do not suffer depression, I'll.want to say Depression is very real and always seems to go hand in hand with Fibromygia. Have really appreciated your entire "connect"community.
bye for now.... Virtuous69.

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Hi @virtuous69,
Your accounts have been merged into one account. Click on your user name @virtuous69 and you will see your profile and all your posts. I've sent you an email as well.
Colleen

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Hi, Dori @virtuous69. I am so sorry you are not feeling well right now and your tooth pain is terrible. I'm wondering if you have any resources where you live like these free dental clinics we have in our area, like this: http://salvationarmynorth.org/community-pages/good-samaritan-clinic/. Perhaps your local Salvation Army or another nonprofit provides this type of care and might be able to help you out?

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@lisalucier

Hi, Dori @virtuous69. I am so sorry you are not feeling well right now and your tooth pain is terrible. I'm wondering if you have any resources where you live like these free dental clinics we have in our area, like this: http://salvationarmynorth.org/community-pages/good-samaritan-clinic/. Perhaps your local Salvation Army or another nonprofit provides this type of care and might be able to help you out?

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Hi Lisa @lisalucier Yes I've been told to look into dental colleges or dental clinics by my very good dentist. Crazy enough today was a bad day where my fibro acted up and I hurt all over and could not get out of bed and I was totally sad and crying all day Tomorrow I take my husband to the doctor way overdue and I swear he has symptoms that seem to match the Mac /Mai group. sometime in the midwest growing up. Thoracic surgeon did find a nodule in his lung years ago said no worries unless it gets bigger. but his coughing is 24/7 and he literally chokes sometimes cupful. of phleg/ or nothing comes up. Visit to thoracic surgeon x-ray did show A nodule in his lung that surgeon said people can get when living in the Midwest. He's a chronic smoker, and his now, deceased, twin brother had that same God awful cough, that when he,d eat, at restaurant s etc he' d ckoke up phlem all over his dinner plate. Their mom had similar issue. Sure sounds like your group from the Mac/Mai forum. He's also a chronic smoker with diagnosed severe sinus issues, sleep apnea and refuses x-rays for fear they'll find lung cancer. My good friend was hospitalized this weekend with Prednisone fractures and terrible side effects from chemo cancer treatment. Possible tumors on her spine and inner hip. It doesn't look good and she was such a dear friend and mentor. I've lost two already and I'm in a state of Tears because I'M sad. I just don't seem to be able to get my life together. But I will start looking at dental clinics and a group called Love Inc. that represents our community for house repairs and possibly even some health issues help. Thank you for the link and when I get a chance I'll look it up. I'm not looking forward to having to figure out how to freeze my credit reports that we've been warned to freeze on the TV news. I do not understand the @ symbol and I have to look for an email that Colleen sent me on how to explain things. she's merge two of my accounts together, bless her heart.hopefully that will stop some of the confusion.

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@lisalucier

Hi, Dori @virtuous69. I am so sorry you are not feeling well right now and your tooth pain is terrible. I'm wondering if you have any resources where you live like these free dental clinics we have in our area, like this: http://salvationarmynorth.org/community-pages/good-samaritan-clinic/. Perhaps your local Salvation Army or another nonprofit provides this type of care and might be able to help you out?

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@IndianaScott just sent you a long post, and got that dern error msg again. Post could not be sent please try again. Grrrrr!!!!!

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