PMR - What do you wish you had known . . .

Posted by jabrown0407 @jabrown0407, Jun 21 11:15pm

Each of us has been on a journey with a disease that is not well understood, common but not identical symptoms and the steroid treatment is scary and problematic with its own side effects.
What is the one or two things you wish you had known early on that helped you put the pieces together and helped you better understand what is going on with you and your body.
Please share so we can learn from each other.

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Profile picture for grownupcf @grownupcf

@tweetypie13 Thanks for this. It seems that when I cut down it was the PMR coming back (classic back of arm pain, heaviness in legs, etc.) But truly, I'm not sure if that's the cortisol issues too.
I guess that's my next question: How do you handle the reawakening of the adrenals? Is it just live with it for a bit? Or does the slow or alternating tapering help?

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@grownupcf Fundamentally either your adrenal glands will wake up as you taper or at some point they will not. Slower tapering allows them a little extra time as well as protects you from tapering too much if there is a problem. Patience is the required skill. I have had to learn that I am not in charge of what my body does, when it does it and why. Whole new way for me to think about my body.

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Profile picture for spacypantz74 @spacypantz74

@tweetypie13 that's awesome. I have started taking Kevzara but can't afford to keep taking after 3 months. And what's the trade? Just one drug for another. There is no winning with this

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@spacypantz74 You can ask your doctor's office if they can connect you with a social worker who can help you navigate finding assistance with a drug cost. Also, please check out GoodRx.com they say your copay might be as low as $0.00 - yes nothing. Don't give up until you have exhausted your options.

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@tweetypie13 I never expected the weather to be an issue but realize that’s probably why this came on so strong during a rare cold and snowy northeast winter.

It rained the other day (we’ve not gotten much lately), and I was pretty miserable. I did end up taking 2 Tylenol because I couldn’t stand it anymore.

The up and downs of this is frustrating,

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@grownupcf pls note, Tylenol for Arthritis is not the same as Tylenol.
Weather for me is higher dew point. COld is fine, it’s hot humid that gives me a problem. I check the weather every morning. Have been able to use 1 Ty for Arth at a time….takes the edge off.
Rule of the road is Patience…..not in our DNA. 🤞

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@franklinlala My Rheumy brought it up first but only after I had an episode of diverticulitis while on Tyenne. The Tyenne was only put on the table after my GCA was Dx in Nov 2025. I had been struggling with PMR for 6+ years and was only offered prednisone.
This site has really picked up discussion of the biologics in the last year.

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@jabrown0407 Thank you for sharing your experience. You were on Prednisone a long time before it was even suggested, and only after your diagnosis of GCA. Seems like a reluctance to recommend a biologic until prednisone use is exhausted, or your condition becomes more serious such as GCA.
Biologics seem to help so many wean off prednisone, it’s a shame people on long term steroid use aren’t offered it sooner. I know it comes with risks and costs are higher. That may be partly why. Thinking out loud here, and just trying to understand how it all works. Thank again for your input.

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Profile picture for lmguen @lmguen

I wish that there was a professional to talk to about why autoimmune diseases happen and what is the reason your body attacks self. I hate just medicating for symptoms of disease; there should be a root cause! I have read a lot about GCA but still have unanswered questions or fears when I get a headache or temple area hurts. Is it from GCA. Worry wart I guess!!

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@lmguen Agreed, but unfortunately they don't know and while some doctor's and researcher do care about the current situation, mostly not a lot is being done because it's simply not a priority. Complicated by the fact that it all seems to be beyond our current knowledge to even find a way of establishing what exactly the underlying issue is. Yes, too hard perhaps.

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Profile picture for teddyz @teddyz

Yes, the what's an actual flare question. I feel better and try to do more activity or exercise. Is the pain afterward PMR, just being out of shape after 4 years of being ill, or just because I'm 4 years older? And does it make any difference why I'm hurting?

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@teddyz all great questions. I have asked these of doctors and they don't know. The answer is always, "could be all or any of those".

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Profile picture for kathy22wright @kathy22wright

I wish I had known the time it takes to taper off prednisone and the risks of using it. At first, the relief from the PMR pain is so quick and profound it feels like a miracle. But the side effects are real, rearing their heads like a Medusa shortly after that first wave of pain relief. At one time, I thought if I ever get off prednisone and have another flare, I’d prefer to manage the pain than to revert to prednisone, but with more research I learned doing so increases the risk of GCA and even worse outcomes from the unchecked PMR. It’s a situation with only one path out: prednisone to manage PMR and then the human managing the prednisone for a very long time. Only about 25% of us will walk away from PMR after a ~2-year battle. The rest will continue to live with it, hoping to awake every day flare free, or intercepting a flare early enough to control it with as little prednisone as possible. This disorder is not for the meek, and for me, it takes every ounce self care I can muster to manage it, including the toll on my mental health. As they say, the only way out is through.

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@kathy22wright
Thank you. This was very helpful to me. The rheumy couldn’t decide on a Dx because my ssDNA was high, along with ESR, +ANA; c-rp. and the prednisone started causing awful symptoms. I didn’t taper, I simply quit taking it out of ignorance. My PCR who diagnosed PMR originally, is helping me manage this now. I take either 5 mg of prednisone or 2.5 mg when pain flares up - just one or 2 days. It’s been 1.5 yrs and frequent meditation every day seems to help most. Chronic stress of caring for parents in their 90’s seems to be my trigger, and this group has helped keep me sane. It seems that I took so much prednisone for so long, that my blood sugar is totally out of whack. I can handle the pain & stiffness, but this utter exhaustion is my main concern. I am currently doing the AIP diet to see if it helps. I just started the phase where I add 1 food at a time back. 🤞🏻

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Profile picture for gmdb @gmdb

@teddyz all great questions. I have asked these of doctors and they don't know. The answer is always, "could be all or any of those".

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@gmdb I wonder if other disciplines, like physical therapy, might be able to give us some insight.

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@gmdb I wonder if other disciplines, like physical therapy, might be able to give us some insight.

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@teddyz not a lot of luck there either. Have had regular physiotherapy sessions over the last 6 months. Been great for when I tore the achilles, which likely wasn't related to PMR or pred. But apart from needing to go low (impact) and slow for PMR affected muscles, and the need to keep exercise up to prevent muscle wastage, there hasn't been much insight into the tangled pain cycle we experience.

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I wish I knew what I was getting into when I started meds for PMR .I would not have taken the treatment .Over 5 years of medication and now off Prednisone for about six weeks I am in agony. There seems no end to it and I am so depressed I can barely function.I hope the end is near

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