So, looking over one's shoulder for the remaining time...

Posted by thig350 @thig350, May 28 9:51pm

I have made the decision to have my prostate removed, with ED and inconti in my future.... PSA 8.7, stage 2, grade 3, Gleason 4+3, PET and MRI show contained to prostate. Cribriform glands present. 57 years old.

It looks like my 15 year prognosis is that I will be around. Buuuut, a 50% chance that cancer will return at some point. So, as I see it, I will be looking over my shoulder going forward waiting to see if IT returns. and if it does, radiation and hormone therapy is on the horizon.

My question is, any of you living this life and if yes, any pearls of wisdom? Now that I have made the decision to go with surgery, this whole PCa thing is hitting home.

Thanks in advance for any replies.

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The thing you're most frightened of is the thing I've been living since 2021 — when they discovered my cancer, it had already spread to my spine — and actually, I'm ok. The "looking over your shoulder" part fades after a year or two, and then you just get on with life. Treatments are advancing so fast that no one honestly can tell us how long we have, but I was 56 in 2021, and my family doctor tells me now to plan for old age and worry about other stuff instead, like blood pressure or type 2 diabetes. 🤷

Hoping this won't happen to you — the odds are strongly in your favour when the cancer's caught early — but I just wanted you to know that in the unlikely event that the cancer does come back, it's not the end of the world, or anything close. It's a big adjustment living with "incurable" prostate cancer, but I actually enjoy my life. YMMV.

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I had a prostecomy at age 70 almost 2 years ago. Unfortunately the prostate pathology found both Cribriform and IDC. My PSA has been undetectable, but I'm a bit of a "worrier" by nature. My "pearle of wisdom" you asked about is that I've found that I don't worry as much when I focus on my gratitude for how many things have turned out well. Specifically, my cancer was found early, the surgery went well, I'm alive, pain free, and able to be physically active (long walks, hiking, etc). I'm continent, my ED was disappeared at 15 months, and without that old enlarged prostate I urinate like I'm 30 years younger. For me, frequently reflecting on how lucky I've been so far and how much worst it could have been. I can honestly say I acknowledge and appreciate the simple things in life more than before my diagnosis. For me this helps keep me from spending much time "looking over my shoulder" pondering if it returns, and it helps remind me to squeeze as much joy from each day as I can. Best wishes.

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Having that combination of problems can be a real issue. It’s great to hear you’re doing so well with both problems behind you.

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@retireditguy
Having that combination of problems can be a real issue. It’s great to hear you’re doing so well with both problems behind you.

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@jeffmarc -- Thanks! Yeah, I know how lucky I've been so far, especially in light of the Cribriform and IDC. I consider every "undectable psa" a gift. Best wishes.

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I am 5 months post-op. What keeps me positive is thinking about those that are not as fortunate as we are, those that were too late for effective treatment, those that cannot navigate the healthcare system. My brother was one of those unlucky ones, he hung on for years but his was caught late and surgery wasn't a treatment option. For me, the surgery and recovery were a breeze. Incontinence has gotten much better and I hope it to be fully resolved soon. ED is not a problem for me. At 3 months, I got to celebrate being undetectable and am expecting the same at 6 months. Best wishes!

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Thanks so much everyone for the supportive responses. It makes a big difference to hear from you all who have travelled the same path that I am on. There are times when I am more ok with what I am dealing with and then other times I get a little frustrated that at 57 years old I am dealing with this issue. My wife tells me be glad it was caught early, that they can do something about it, that I am younger so I have a good chance to bounce back, and at least I am an excellent cook so if the ED thing doesn't resolve itself my Paella is almost as satisfying! ; )

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I had removal and short term inconti that with pelvic exercises corrected itself within 4 months. Black pants and shorts hide any occasional drips. Went BCR in 2 years and radiation ruined most of that good work and the ability to have a meaningful orgasm. To the best of my ability, I try to stay present in today rather than future tripping. If I am projecting into the future I am ruining today. Best wishes on your journey.

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@thig350 -

“at least I am an excellent cook so if the ED thing doesn't resolve itself my Paella is almost as satisfying! ; )”

Haha, my wife said something similar - “Don’t worry about it, I keep you around for your cooking anyway.”

😆

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I have a similar experience. Been hanging around now 14 years since my surgery plus on ADT. I summarized my experiences on FacingHighPSA to try and help others. Have a look if you’re interested. Hope it helps.

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Thanks so much everyone for the supportive responses. It makes a big difference to hear from you all who have travelled the same path that I am on. There are times when I am more ok with what I am dealing with and then other times I get a little frustrated that at 57 years old I am dealing with this issue. My wife tells me be glad it was caught early, that they can do something about it, that I am younger so I have a good chance to bounce back, and at least I am an excellent cook so if the ED thing doesn't resolve itself my Paella is almost as satisfying! ; )

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@thig350 Also, erections != sex.

While I'm sure your paella is great, you'd still have many options for sexual intimacy even if the ED didn't resolve itself. 🙂

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Yeah, I agree with many who've already commented. It's not all gloom and doom. I'm 67 and I had my nerve sparing RALP 4 and half months ago on my birthday! One 3+4, one 3+3, Decipher score of .85. and cribiform detected. All contained to the gland. Just got my PSA results 2 days ago and it was <.01, so undetectable!
I'm almost completely continent, leaking only small amounts very occasionally when I make certain movements. I wear a small lightweight pad for insurance. I've even gone back to sleeping nude which is normal for me as I've never leaked while laying down. I started doing kegels a month and a half before surgery and have never stopped.
I'm doing penile rehabilitation with a good quality pump and masturbation. I can't use the pills because of an eye condition which viagra would make worse. Nevertheless I'm making progress and can now get a noticeable partial erection of slightly less than half staff. I do get satisfying orgasms though they are dry.
As far as physical activities, I can do everything I could do before surgery.
Also, a side benefit of it all is that I have changed my diet to a heart healthy one which is also a cancer friendly one. The diet change makes me feel better overall.
So yeah, I'm happy with my decision. The first weeks were a little tough but not unbearable and my cancer is officially in remission. Could it come back in the future? Yes, it could, but if I had done nothing I could have died. Life's uncertain and we can only deal with what we got here and now. Just remember, you're not alone. This is an excellent forum, so come back often.
Good luck to you!

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