Need more information on NET in head of pancreas

Posted by pamsbass @pamsbass, Jan 21, 2024

Am trying to find out more about net in the head of pancreas any information would be appreciated this makes a year I have add it.
I see a lot of Information of the tail of pancreas

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@pamsbass
Hello, I am the wife of someone who was diagnosed 2 years ago with an NET on the pancreas head at 43yo. With small liver lesions as well with just watching it/then the last two years. It has now grown to 2.5cm and He’s being sent for more lab work and and a PET scan with follow up to talk about surgery. We were told in the beginning that if it grew to cause problems an needed surgery he would need a whipple. What made yours a modified whipple. I did some research two years ago but I’m anxious currently since the “news” is new again. Thinking we wouldn’t need surgery hopefully ever. Is there anything I should particularly remember to ask?

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@pamsbass Hello,

I noticed your post. I’m in a similar situation, as I’ve recently been diagnosed with a lesion in the head of the pancreas. I’m still at the beginning of the diagnostic process and currently waiting for a biopsy.

I would like to ask about your experience regarding the course of your examinations and treatment so far. Did you eventually undergo surgery, or are you considering it? Or have you been placed on a different treatment plan?

I am also trying to understand all available options, as I would prefer to avoid surgery if possible, although I am aware that it is often considered the standard recommendation.

I would be grateful if you were willing to share any information with me. Thank you very much in advance.

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I found out the PNET (pancreatic neuroendocrine tumor) on the head of my pancreas last year in May during an MRI scan for my kidneys. It was an incidental finding.

After multiple imaging including a dota-tate scan in September, the specialists at Johns Hopkins told me to wait six months and do another PET scan, since it was small and the tumor is well differentiated (slow-growing).

However, my abdominal pains and back pains come occasionally. I attended a lifestyle center program on disease reversal and since then I noticed that with diet and lifestyle changes, symptoms are almost next to none. If it wasn't for that MRI scan in May, they never would have known about the PNET and would have constantly given me anti-acids.

Today, I rarely have symptoms thanks to a lifestyle change. I'm learning a lot more about PNET after signing up for a group and they sent me reading materials. There is still a lot to learn, especially with insurance coverage and different hospital's procedures.

Finding the right doctor definitely helps: https://www.carcinoid.org/for-patients/treatment/find-a-doctor/

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@bellom Good day,

I am reading your post in the discussion and would like to join in. I have been diagnosed with a well-differentiated tumor in the head of the pancreas. I am currently awaiting a biopsy, and the next steps in treatment are still not yet clear.

I would be grateful if you could share your experience with treatment, procedures, and any dietary advice or recommendations that helped you during your therapy.

Thank you.

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@bellom Good day,

I am reading your post in the discussion and would like to join in. I have been diagnosed with a well-differentiated tumor in the head of the pancreas. I am currently awaiting a biopsy, and the next steps in treatment are still not yet clear.

I would be grateful if you could share your experience with treatment, procedures, and any dietary advice or recommendations that helped you during your therapy.

Thank you.

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@michaela258
I have had it for 2 years 6 months they first watched it very 6 months they do a Cooper test then a ct scan very 3 months when it started growing they started me shots and it has helped my pain and also has stop growing right now am get a cooper scan in Aug and will know how it’s doing good luck

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@pamsbass Hello,

I noticed your post. I’m in a similar situation, as I’ve recently been diagnosed with a lesion in the head of the pancreas. I’m still at the beginning of the diagnostic process and currently waiting for a biopsy.

I would like to ask about your experience regarding the course of your examinations and treatment so far. Did you eventually undergo surgery, or are you considering it? Or have you been placed on a different treatment plan?

I am also trying to understand all available options, as I would prefer to avoid surgery if possible, although I am aware that it is often considered the standard recommendation.

I would be grateful if you were willing to share any information with me. Thank you very much in advance.

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@michaela258
They said I would not survive a whipple surgery so we did shots

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Profile picture for michaela258 @michaela258

@hopeful33250 Hello,

Thank you very much for your feedback and for taking the time to respond. I truly appreciate it.

I live in a smaller country where access to highly specialized doctors is limited, and it is likely that we do not yet have the same level of technology or treatment protocols that are available in your country. Because of this, I am very grateful to be able to connect with you and learn from your experience. It helps me understand whether I am on the right path or if there may be alternative treatment options worth considering.

At the moment, I would also like to ask about the biopsy, as I am receiving two different opinions. One is that a biopsy is necessary to properly determine the aggressiveness of the tumor, while the other suggests that it could potentially be risky if the tumor is punctured. I am not sure what the standard approach is in cases like this, and I would really appreciate hearing how this is typically handled in your experience.

If you are willing to share, I would be very grateful to hear how this was managed in your own case.

Thank you very much again for your time and support.

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@michaela258
I appreciate your response and 1 can understand your concerns regarding whether to have a biopsy or not.. I have had three surgeries for NETs in the upper digestive tract, but not in the pancreas. I hope you will read the posts in the discussion group I mentioned. Perhaps @tomrennie, @pete1962 and @lindabees will post about their treatment protocol.

How are you feeling?

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Hello everyone,

I was recently diagnosed with a neuroendocrine tumor (NET) in the head of my pancreas measuring about 1 cm. At the moment, I have a PET scan and CT scan scheduled, followed by a biopsy of the tumor.

I would like to ask if anyone here has experience with this type of diagnosis and could share what usually happens next. What kind of treatment did you go through? What symptoms should I expect, if any?

I am also very worried about my prognosis and life expectancy. I know every case is different, but I would appreciate hearing from people living with a similar diagnosis and how long they have been able to live with this condition.

Another thing that confuses me is that my doctors have not explained much to me yet, so I still do not fully understand whether this is considered cancer or something different.

Thank you to anyone willing to share their experience or advice.

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I was diagnosed in November with a 5.5CM NET at the head of my pancreas and a 1.2CM NET on the ampula. They were found incident to a CT scan I had for a sciatica issue so I was having no symptoms although the larger one may have been contributing slightly to my back issue. NET is the best pancreatic cancer you can get with a much higher survival rate than typical carcinoma. I had a biopsy which was used to diagnose the grade to determine their rate of growth. The smaller one was 1%, the larger was 5% and I was given a WHO Grade 2 which basically meant it was slow growing. (I did develop pancreatitis after the biopsy and was hospitalized for 3 days. I think something got nicked and leaked but I have never gotten a full explanation) Although I had no symptoms, I was assured I would in a few years and decided to have the surgery now while I was younger (66) and not experiencing any negative symptoms. I had the Whipple Procedure in February to remove it. The procedure is major but after 3.5 months I have recovered almost completely and have no regrets. With the small size of your tumor maybe your procedure would be different. Because NET's are rare, everyone I asked emphasized seeing someone who specializes in NET's. I live in Nashville, TN and was fortunate Vanderbilt has 3 doctors that do NET's fairly routinely. Hope this helps.

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Profile picture for michaela258 @michaela258

Hello everyone,

I was recently diagnosed with a neuroendocrine tumor (NET) in the head of my pancreas measuring about 1 cm. At the moment, I have a PET scan and CT scan scheduled, followed by a biopsy of the tumor.

I would like to ask if anyone here has experience with this type of diagnosis and could share what usually happens next. What kind of treatment did you go through? What symptoms should I expect, if any?

I am also very worried about my prognosis and life expectancy. I know every case is different, but I would appreciate hearing from people living with a similar diagnosis and how long they have been able to live with this condition.

Another thing that confuses me is that my doctors have not explained much to me yet, so I still do not fully understand whether this is considered cancer or something different.

Thank you to anyone willing to share their experience or advice.

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Diagnosed with pancreatic NET in 12/23 after a couple months of symptoms. Main factor in prognosis is the stage of the cancer, meaning how far it’s spread. Local tumors are often removed with complete recovery but once it spreads (as mine had with liver metastasis) prognosis is much worse. Other factors are grade (the percentage of cells actively dividing), differentiation, overall health and whether tumor is functional ( producing hormones such as insulin). Most likely they will need a biopsy to make these determinations.
If you’re lucky they nail it with surgery, without having to pull out too much adjacent stuff, and it never comes back. If not than it’s a continuous treatment process, but it doesn’t have to ruin your life.

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Profile picture for michaela258 @michaela258

@hopeful33250 Hello,

Thank you very much for your feedback and for taking the time to respond. I truly appreciate it.

I live in a smaller country where access to highly specialized doctors is limited, and it is likely that we do not yet have the same level of technology or treatment protocols that are available in your country. Because of this, I am very grateful to be able to connect with you and learn from your experience. It helps me understand whether I am on the right path or if there may be alternative treatment options worth considering.

At the moment, I would also like to ask about the biopsy, as I am receiving two different opinions. One is that a biopsy is necessary to properly determine the aggressiveness of the tumor, while the other suggests that it could potentially be risky if the tumor is punctured. I am not sure what the standard approach is in cases like this, and I would really appreciate hearing how this is typically handled in your experience.

If you are willing to share, I would be very grateful to hear how this was managed in your own case.

Thank you very much again for your time and support.

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@michaela258 I was diagnosed with a stage 4 PNET that spread primarily to my liver in 8/22. I have been living on chemo since. Having any test or treatment comes with a degree of risk. Depending on the biopsy technique used, pancreatic biopsies can have a complication rate between one and four percent. Compared to a lot of tests and treatments, that is a great success rate. To my knowledge, there isn't a better way to confirm a NET diagnosis. Other than a biopsy, what other options were presented to you? For me, having accurate data to determine the best treatment course is critical to the success of any treatment. What other concerns do you have at this point? What are your next steps in your diagnosis and treatment planning?

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Profile picture for michaela258 @michaela258

Hello everyone,

I was recently diagnosed with a neuroendocrine tumor (NET) in the head of my pancreas measuring about 1 cm. At the moment, I have a PET scan and CT scan scheduled, followed by a biopsy of the tumor.

I would like to ask if anyone here has experience with this type of diagnosis and could share what usually happens next. What kind of treatment did you go through? What symptoms should I expect, if any?

I am also very worried about my prognosis and life expectancy. I know every case is different, but I would appreciate hearing from people living with a similar diagnosis and how long they have been able to live with this condition.

Another thing that confuses me is that my doctors have not explained much to me yet, so I still do not fully understand whether this is considered cancer or something different.

Thank you to anyone willing to share their experience or advice.

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@michael258
I'm sorry to hear of your diagnosis
I know how scary and confusing things are for you right now.
My husband was diagnosed 18 years ago with net tumor on the tail of his pancreas and many, many mets to his liver, so stage 4. He had surgery to remove the primary, radioembolization to address the liver tumors and other treatments along the way to keep things in check, including everolimus, captem and lanreotide. He's been stable for a few years now and is on a maintenance does of capcetibine.
Each case is different and treatment is individualized. Neuroendocrine tumors are cancerous, but are usually very slow growing, as evidenced by my husband's longevity.
It sounds like getting specialized treatment will be a challenge for you so its very important to educate yourself about this disease and be a partner with your doctor in directing your care. A great place to start is https://netrf.org/for-patients/newly-diagnosed/
I don't know what country you are in but there are international net groups you could look into to help find a doctor. One is a European group.
https://www.enets.org/list-of-coes.html
As for biopsy, that will provide important information that will help guide your doctor in choosing the best treatment options for you. It will tell you how aggressive (or not) your tumor is which will dictate the treatment path you choose.

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Profile picture for dtkach37 @dtkach37

I was diagnosed in November with a 5.5CM NET at the head of my pancreas and a 1.2CM NET on the ampula. They were found incident to a CT scan I had for a sciatica issue so I was having no symptoms although the larger one may have been contributing slightly to my back issue. NET is the best pancreatic cancer you can get with a much higher survival rate than typical carcinoma. I had a biopsy which was used to diagnose the grade to determine their rate of growth. The smaller one was 1%, the larger was 5% and I was given a WHO Grade 2 which basically meant it was slow growing. (I did develop pancreatitis after the biopsy and was hospitalized for 3 days. I think something got nicked and leaked but I have never gotten a full explanation) Although I had no symptoms, I was assured I would in a few years and decided to have the surgery now while I was younger (66) and not experiencing any negative symptoms. I had the Whipple Procedure in February to remove it. The procedure is major but after 3.5 months I have recovered almost completely and have no regrets. With the small size of your tumor maybe your procedure would be different. Because NET's are rare, everyone I asked emphasized seeing someone who specializes in NET's. I live in Nashville, TN and was fortunate Vanderbilt has 3 doctors that do NET's fairly routinely. Hope this helps.

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@dtkach37 Hello DT and thank you for posting. I am 65 and I have roughly the same issues however my larger of the 2 tumors I have is only 2.2cm and I'm currently being treated with monthly Lanreotide injections. Currently the oncologist are not recommending surgery because my Dototate 68 scan showed 2 additional hotspots w/ SUV's of roughly 14 and less than 7 but not necessarily tumors from what I understand which means the cancer cells have most likely spread to other areas. After my biopsy i also got pancreatitis and was hospitalized for 9 days (brutal) Did you have a Dototate 68 scan if so what were your results(any hotspots) I am seeing a NET's surgeon on Monday to see if surgery is worth the risk or not. My tumors one in the body and one in the tail are slow growing similar to yours. What was the deciding factor on the Doctors opting for surgery versus a drug treatment plan? Do they say or think you are currently cancer free? Thank you for any reply.

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