Living with Neuropathy - Welcome to the group

Welcome to the Neuropathy group.
This is a welcoming, safe place where you can meet other people who are dealing with neuropathy. Let’s learn from each other and share stories about living well with neuropathy, coping with the challenges and offering tips.

I’m Colleen, and I’m the moderator of this group, and Community Director of Connect. Chances are you’ll to be greeted by volunteer patient Mentor John (@johnbishop) and fellow members when you post to this group. Learn more about Moderators and Mentors on Connect.

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@darlingtondoll

It works really well for me with no side effects. If I am an hour late for a dose, the pain reminds me to take it. I have been taking it for eight years and nothing else works as well. Lyrica did not work for me.

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Sorry... in addition to Lyrica I also had Fentynal patches 50mg X2 for about 12 years and I can say they definitely help with the spinal pain. One of my doctors now prescribed ketamine troches (dissolve under tongue) as an alternative and it works really well for the spinal issues and all my other nerve related pain.

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@qball2019

@darlingtondoll @steeldove

Don't mean to chime in on your conversation. I certainly don't mean any disrespect. I have found that Lyrica works better for me than gabapentin. I have used it for about 13 years. I do have some side affects but nothing terrible like I've heard other people talk about. My issues began with a bad fall I took on my kitchen floor. It primarily works the pain associated with my spine. I have vertebrae in a couple different places slipping over the top of each other and 4 osteophytes (bone spurs) in my cervical area that are touching my spinal cord. It does help a little with my tethered cord and Tarlov cyst pain as well. I can't say that I notice much of a difference with the neuropathy though. I've had multiple doctors over the years tell me that everyone is "wired" differently and what works for one may not work for another. You just need to try different things to see if they help.

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@steeldove @darlingtondoll @qball2019

I don't think we should identify a drug as a scam unless we can quote reputable medical literature to back up that claim. The article in the NYT criticizes prescribing practices, but does not claim Gabapentin itself is a scam. And how horrible is it that doctors are being discouraged from prescribing opioids and therefore forced to search for other options that may ultimately be completely ineffective 🙁

I am a bit sensitive about this topic because I remember being prescribed anti-depressants several decades ago, and virtually all of my close friends tried to convince me to stop taking it because they heard 'bad things' about anti-depressants. The truth of the matter is: That drug saved my life. Regardless of the horror stories my friends heard about anti-depressants, it literally saved my life. They obviously had no idea how depressed I was, how close to death I was - or they never would have tried to convince me to let go of my medically prescribed lifeline.

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@iceblue

@steeldove @darlingtondoll @qball2019

I don't think we should identify a drug as a scam unless we can quote reputable medical literature to back up that claim. The article in the NYT criticizes prescribing practices, but does not claim Gabapentin itself is a scam. And how horrible is it that doctors are being discouraged from prescribing opioids and therefore forced to search for other options that may ultimately be completely ineffective 🙁

I am a bit sensitive about this topic because I remember being prescribed anti-depressants several decades ago, and virtually all of my close friends tried to convince me to stop taking it because they heard 'bad things' about anti-depressants. The truth of the matter is: That drug saved my life. Regardless of the horror stories my friends heard about anti-depressants, it literally saved my life. They obviously had no idea how depressed I was, how close to death I was - or they never would have tried to convince me to let go of my medically prescribed lifeline.

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I completely agree with you. They need to walk a mile in your shoes.

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@iceblue

@steeldove @darlingtondoll @qball2019

I don't think we should identify a drug as a scam unless we can quote reputable medical literature to back up that claim. The article in the NYT criticizes prescribing practices, but does not claim Gabapentin itself is a scam. And how horrible is it that doctors are being discouraged from prescribing opioids and therefore forced to search for other options that may ultimately be completely ineffective 🙁

I am a bit sensitive about this topic because I remember being prescribed anti-depressants several decades ago, and virtually all of my close friends tried to convince me to stop taking it because they heard 'bad things' about anti-depressants. The truth of the matter is: That drug saved my life. Regardless of the horror stories my friends heard about anti-depressants, it literally saved my life. They obviously had no idea how depressed I was, how close to death I was - or they never would have tried to convince me to let go of my medically prescribed lifeline.

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@iceblue I should have chosen a more appropriate word than scam.

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@steeldove and others

I tried every medication remotely close to effective in treating neuropathy pain, including Gabapentin, with either little to no effect or had unacceptable side effects. My siblings swear by it, but I felt nothing.

I haven't researched the charges made in the NYT article, and I've never heard claims that it has no effect on neuropathy pain. I wonder what qualifies the reporter to make the judgment calls made in the article. Obviously (so it seems to me) they don't have nerve pain that is intractable, or they don't have pain that's been brought under control by on or off label medications.

The bone they're picking appears to me to be that most doctors prescribe it in ignorance or indiscriminately, as they have historically done with opioids. I've read and heard many people say that it is an effective medication, enough so that I don't swallow everything the naysayers say or print. I'd like to know what people who are credible witnesses and who can cite credible tests would have to say.

It's hard to dismiss the testimonies of the many people whom it helps. Even though it didn't work for me, (and I don't remember what the side effects were that kept me from continuing to take it) it's certainly helped a lot of people. Is it possible that we're going to see a big political gaba scare that will put prescriptions at risk as happened with opioids? It's criminal to target those of us who have a history of taking the opioids and Gabapentin/Neurontin responsibly that our doctors promised would treat our pain. I'm disturbed that my PCP who had readily prescribed an opioid, specifically for pain, is now trying to get me to believe that it isn't intended to treat pain. Do I really look that dumb or gullible. The whole mess has me taking what my doctors are telling me with a gallon of salt.

Jim

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@jimhd

@steeldove and others

I tried every medication remotely close to effective in treating neuropathy pain, including Gabapentin, with either little to no effect or had unacceptable side effects. My siblings swear by it, but I felt nothing.

I haven't researched the charges made in the NYT article, and I've never heard claims that it has no effect on neuropathy pain. I wonder what qualifies the reporter to make the judgment calls made in the article. Obviously (so it seems to me) they don't have nerve pain that is intractable, or they don't have pain that's been brought under control by on or off label medications.

The bone they're picking appears to me to be that most doctors prescribe it in ignorance or indiscriminately, as they have historically done with opioids. I've read and heard many people say that it is an effective medication, enough so that I don't swallow everything the naysayers say or print. I'd like to know what people who are credible witnesses and who can cite credible tests would have to say.

It's hard to dismiss the testimonies of the many people whom it helps. Even though it didn't work for me, (and I don't remember what the side effects were that kept me from continuing to take it) it's certainly helped a lot of people. Is it possible that we're going to see a big political gaba scare that will put prescriptions at risk as happened with opioids? It's criminal to target those of us who have a history of taking the opioids and Gabapentin/Neurontin responsibly that our doctors promised would treat our pain. I'm disturbed that my PCP who had readily prescribed an opioid, specifically for pain, is now trying to get me to believe that it isn't intended to treat pain. Do I really look that dumb or gullible. The whole mess has me taking what my doctors are telling me with a gallon of salt.

Jim

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Jim - your post reminded me of another thing that happened when I was on the anti-depressants!

I had been put on a higher than recommended dosage because I had come very close to ending my life on the highest recommended dosage. I was hospitalized during this period of time (voluntarily) - where I received EXCELLENT care. But I remember going to one of the nurses at one point saying "I feel like I want to quit smoking, and I think it's the anti-depressants that are causing that." I was told that I should NOT quit smoking because doing so would place additional stress on me and risk my recovery from clinical depression. So - although I no longer felt a desire to smoke - I kept smoking.

Fast forward many years: It was discovered that at least one type of anti-depressant can be used to help people quit smoking. It comes with all kinds of dire warnings - including suicidal thoughts - but it works to help smokers quit, and is prescribed for this purpose.

Drugs sometimes have impacts they were not designed or prescribed for. A good example: An anti-depressant that makes some people suicidal, cures some of clinical depression, and makes others want to quit smoking. My conclusion: None of us should layer our own personal experience over everyone else. (That is pretty much a life truth, isn't it?)

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@steeldove

@rwinney Rachel, if driving is important to you and you can afford the best, take a look at the digital hand controls at http://www.kempf-usa.com It's really pricey, but it helps me to feel in control of my disease. I drive to the swimming pool three days a week, I drive to physical therapy and other medical appointments. Twice I drove it to Minnesota for appointments at Mayo. The inside ring on the steering wheel of my little Prius C is my gas, and the knob on the right is my brake. I can press a small button the dashboard, and the system immediately converts to the usual gas and brake pedals.

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Thanks for the picture as that really helps. This is an terrific concept in practice.

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@jimhd

@steeldove and others

I tried every medication remotely close to effective in treating neuropathy pain, including Gabapentin, with either little to no effect or had unacceptable side effects. My siblings swear by it, but I felt nothing.

I haven't researched the charges made in the NYT article, and I've never heard claims that it has no effect on neuropathy pain. I wonder what qualifies the reporter to make the judgment calls made in the article. Obviously (so it seems to me) they don't have nerve pain that is intractable, or they don't have pain that's been brought under control by on or off label medications.

The bone they're picking appears to me to be that most doctors prescribe it in ignorance or indiscriminately, as they have historically done with opioids. I've read and heard many people say that it is an effective medication, enough so that I don't swallow everything the naysayers say or print. I'd like to know what people who are credible witnesses and who can cite credible tests would have to say.

It's hard to dismiss the testimonies of the many people whom it helps. Even though it didn't work for me, (and I don't remember what the side effects were that kept me from continuing to take it) it's certainly helped a lot of people. Is it possible that we're going to see a big political gaba scare that will put prescriptions at risk as happened with opioids? It's criminal to target those of us who have a history of taking the opioids and Gabapentin/Neurontin responsibly that our doctors promised would treat our pain. I'm disturbed that my PCP who had readily prescribed an opioid, specifically for pain, is now trying to get me to believe that it isn't intended to treat pain. Do I really look that dumb or gullible. The whole mess has me taking what my doctors are telling me with a gallon of salt.

Jim

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@jimhd
Good morning, well it is here,
Same story here Jim. I was on 3600 mg a day before the generic came out and it didn’t help my neuropathy or my seizures. Although I never had any side effects. My brother says it helps him and I know someone with fibromyalgia who says it helps her, go figure.
Jake

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@steeldove

@rwinney Rachel, if driving is important to you and you can afford the best, take a look at the digital hand controls at http://www.kempf-usa.com It's really pricey, but it helps me to feel in control of my disease. I drive to the swimming pool three days a week, I drive to physical therapy and other medical appointments. Twice I drove it to Minnesota for appointments at Mayo. The inside ring on the steering wheel of my little Prius C is my gas, and the knob on the right is my brake. I can press a small button the dashboard, and the system immediately converts to the usual gas and brake pedals.

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Hi there and thank you for your reply and suggestion. Due to neuropathy in my head, neck, shoulders, arms and hands...I can't handle much from top to bottom. But, I will never rule anything out and this is good stuff!

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@rwinney

You are correct in your analogy of interviewing. My Neuro is a brilliant man but lacks bedside manner and empathy, unless I'm crying. I have felt trapped with him and because he is highly acclaimed, Im afraid to search for another who may not know as much or be as connected in the field as he. I go back for a follow up Wed after a slew of new blood tests which he tried to reply (via portal) by referring me to a Gastro Dr (for new findings) with not so much as even addressing the chief reason he did the blood work up in the first place...my heightened pain and failing body. This is what I mean. UGH! Because I know my stuff and generally come in prepared, he appears to be put off. I am polite in my presentation except when I get beyond frustrated or scared. That may result in tears or mild sass. Anyway, thanks for the advice. We all continue to help each other through experience. Unfortunately, I do not know specifically the nerves along the top of a foot but do know that mine burn and are painful from any form of flexing or pressure such as snug shoes, walking, standing, driving etc... which is why I cant drive, stand long or walk much. For me, due to Small Fiber Poly Neuropathy.

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Follow up:

Saw my Neuro today and he was his usual dismissive, arrogant, challenging self. He did come around, after my persistence of wanting to rule out more surrounding SFN, and referred me to another neurologist for further review and EMG/nerve conduction study. I'm not 100% sold on him doing this because he's nit qualified to help me in these areas any longer or he chooses to rid of me. Win, win either way. I'll hang in there with him for now with migraine treatments which are cut and dry but, not sure I will ever care to work with him again regarding SFN.

@qball2019 - thanks so much for giving me a nudge in the right direction. It was what I needed to hear at the right time as my medical relationship with this Dr has caused me undo stress. It's like sticking around in a bad marriage for the kids. My SFN, aka "the kids" , made me feel trapped to not cut my nise off to spite my face. I deserve better. So, I guess it was meant to be.

He is graciously helping to expedite the referral for me and we shook hands upon departure. Fair.

I suppose his ego and arrogance in hyping himself up made me believe he was the only one to help me and that's not true. Lesson learned. Boy, do I keep learning.

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