Magnesium glycinate
Does anybody take 400mg of the above for PVCs? If so do you take it all at once?
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Does anybody take 400mg of the above for PVCs? If so do you take it all at once?
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Here is further information from Mayo Clinic
- Magnesium: Are you low, but don’t know? https://mcpress.mayoclinic.org/living-well/magnesium-are-you-low-but-dont-know/
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"A blood test of magnesium may not provide a helpful answer. Magnesium is a charged mineral in the body and resides primarily inside the cell. When you test for magnesium in the blood, you are checking the level outside the cell. If the level is low, your magnesium is low. If it’s normal, you don’t know. There is a lab test that checks intracellular magnesium. However, it’s expensive and not typically covered by insurance."
- Types of magnesium supplements: Best use and benefits for your health https://mcpress.mayoclinic.org/nutrition-fitness/types-of-magnesium-supplements-best-use-and-benefits-for-your-health/
- Magnesium glycinate: Is this supplement helpful for you? https://mcpress.mayoclinic.org/nutrition-fitness/magnesium-glycinate-is-this-supplement-helpful-for-you/
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1 ReactionColleen, excellent information of where to review magnesium.
I pulled this from A.I. Microsoft Co-Pilot. A.I. listed where they got information from. I think important that it mentions diet as many will be getting more magnesium than others. I do see and what I mentioned before is the difference in magnesium recommendations are based on sex and age.
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The recommended daily amount of magnesium depends on age and sex. These values come from the U.S. National Academies of Medicine (Food & Nutrition Board) and apply to total daily intake from food + supplements, not just OTC supplements.
Recommended Daily Magnesium Intake (RDA)
Adult Men
19–30 years: 400 mg/day
31+ years: 420 mg/day
Adult Women
19–30 years: 310 mg/day
31+ years: 320 mg/day
Women Who Are Pregnant
19–30 years: 350 mg/day
31+ years: 360 mg/day
Women Who Are Breastfeeding
19–30 years: 310 mg/day
31+ years: 320 mg/day
Important Notes
These numbers are general population guidelines, not personalized medical advice.
Many people get 200–300 mg/day from food, so supplements often fill the gap.
The upper limit for supplements alone (not counting food) is 350 mg/day, unless a clinician prescribes more.
Different forms absorb differently (glycinate, citrate, malate are well‑absorbed; oxide is poorly
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With me my Electrophysiologist recommended I take 400 mg of magnesium citrate as is so easily absorb. With some though citrate can cause some digestive issues. I asked my EP about that and his second suggestion would be glycinate as also very absorbable. I actually do both using both citrate and glycinate to reach my 400 mg.
I mentioned the blood test done (don't think a more accurate test was done) at hospital and it came back my magnesium was lower than 2 (again not sure what that means but what nurse told me). Thus they set up an I.V. with magnesium in it as they would not release me until it was over 2.
I take my 400 mg separated over the day just like other OTC supplements I take.
I would strongly suggest if you can to do a pharmacist consultation. I saw this offered at Mayo Jacksonville and set up an appointment. It lasted 45 minutes. The pharmacist went over every single prescription and supplement I take. She had an assitant who would input into a computer and then discuss the pros and cons for me and if any contradiction with medications and supplments. She went over when to take for each one.
If you ever get a chance to do this with a pharmacist (mine was at Mayo) it is well worth the time. I came off so many of my OTC supplements. Pharmacist explained it could affect a specific (she would list it and why) medications I was taking. Never done this before and glad I did.
The Mayo web site that Colleen added is an excellent article on magnesium. I think important to always advise your doctors of what supplements you take. On MCC I was hearing how much potassium was helping those with PVCs. I decided would try it but I follow my doctors recommendations to check with them first.
I contacted my heart failure and EP and both said we do not recommend you take a potassium supplement and explained why. Stated your blood test shows you are at the high normal limit now and do not recommend you take a supplement.
So you can see always check with your doctors. I wish I had a diet were I was consuming magnesium the natural way through diet. But I know I don't and in my case got a specific amount and type form my EP.
@jode53... How do you keep from having diarrhea?? I take 500mg a day and have to pause for a few days because it causes me diarrhea
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1 Reaction@rbusch1944 Are you taking this much because a doctor told you to do it for a specific reason? Or from something you read? Keep in mind that chronic diarrhea can deplete a lot of nutrients in your body, so it is not something to "just live with."
If you are not under doctor's orders, perhaps you can research foods rich in magnesium and add as much as possible to your diet. Then take a VERY small amount as a supplement - there are tablets as small as 100mg, and even these can be divided.
If you are under doctor's orders, discuss whether you can do this with them. Maybe keep a food diary to show how you have increased your consumption.
Here is a list of magnesium-rich foods:
https://health.clevelandclinic.org/foods-that-are-high-in-magnesium
And here is a more comprehensive list you can research:
https://www.careomnia.com/nutrition-tool-nutrient
Here is how I get at least 400 mg of magnesium from my diet:
Breakfast: Coffee with 1c milk (90mg +25 mg)
Greek yogurt with a banana or raspberries & a handful of pumpkin seeds: (40mg+30mg+150mg)
Or buckwheat pancakes + peanut butter (40mg+100mg)
Lunch: Avocado on crackers (I cannot eat wheat so I substitute) (58mg+40mg)
Or hummus on crackers (24mg+40mg)
Or peanut butter on gluten-free whole grain bread: (100mg+20mg)
Snack: Cashews (70mg)
Dinner:
Baked potato with skin topped with cheddar (42mg+7mg)
OR boiled sweet potato (70mg)
OR baked squash (80mg)
OR bean soup (150mg+)
OR chili with meat and beans (30mg+70mg)
So you can see, the choices are many!
Another was to lessen symptoms is to take the magnesium in divided doses throughout the day, on a full stomach after a meal to "dilute" its effect. This is not something that needs to be taken all at once or on an empty stomach.
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2 Reactions@jc76 Please see my reply to @rbursch1944 - With a little effort, it is entirely possible to get the magnesium you need from your diet.
What is preventing you from doing it? If you only look at "the top 30 magnesium rich foods" it looks impossible. But if you look a little deeper at everything you eat in a day (the second link I listed) you will see that you probably get plenty, or you can with a few small adjustments.
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1 Reaction@rbusch1944 Which formulation are we discussing in your case? If it's the common, and most efficiently uptaken, citrate salt, then 500 mg is obviously too much for your system, and you should advise your physician who prescribed that dose of your experience. If you take 500 mg of bis-glycinate, and it's too much, then maybe you should back off the dose or try yet another salt...malate or taurate maybe? But do run this past the prescribing physician.
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2 Reactions@rbusch1944 ..Hi..magnesium glycinate should NOT give you diarrhea..it is magnesium citrate that may do that
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I am sure most can get magnesium from their diet.
However many of us have been directed by our medical doctors to take a supplement. My Electrophysiologist recommended I take an OTC supplement of 400 mg a day. This was because of PVCs, PACs, getting worse. I am going to follow that medical advice.
As you can see from my previous post I was in hospital recently and on a very regimented diet for cardiology. You would think Mayo would be ensuring magnesium as well as other vitamins, minerals were in the diet food they serve you.
However looks like hospital cardiology food did not provide the correct amount for me. I was getting ready to be discharged after 3 ICD shocks (4 days in cardiac ICU) and they were taking blood test every day. The nurse said to me can't release you unless your magnesium is above 2. And with that they started an I.V. of magnesium.
I eat a lot of no salt mixed nuts, green vegetables but my Mayo EP has asked me to take a magnesium supplement and will do so. Appreciate your advice and help but for many of us we probably need a correct and ongoing amount of magnesium guaranteed.
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I would not increase your OTC without approval from your doctors. It is just good to have medical advice on OTC supplements if you are taking medications and other supplements. I am on 16 different medications and several OTC supplements.
You asked about how to prevent diarrhea. What type magnesium are you taking? Citrate can cause diarrhea in many people. It is why a lot of doctors will recommend Glycinate as does not cause this. I do not have a problem taking Citrate. However, I split the type and take 200 mg of Citrate and 200 mg of Glycinate.
I read on many medical institutions the various forms of magnesium have specific added benefits. The Citrate is overall good for the PVCs, PACs, etc. but the Taurine is good for tachycardia, and Citrate is good for them (PACs, PVCs,) but also helps with digestion. I may add the taurine also and lower my citrate intake.
I want to pass on that every OTC I take is with the approval of my doctors. I do not take anything without their approval. I learned a lot by not doing so you could be doing yourself harm and not know it. Many things aggravate a condition, contradict a medications, or interfere with absorption etc. One of the main OTC is grapefruit. An OTC or eating it. My doctors say can really cause a higher degree of some medications therapeutics.
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I looked at your list. I probably eat at least 8 of them. But not to much of them. Love nuts and peanut butter but are high calorie.
Baked potatoes are one of my favorites. Yogurt (Greek) blueberry and I add bananas is a favorite for breakfast.
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