Understanding how much is safe to lift with osteoporosis

Posted by jspr422 @jspr422, Mar 2 2:37pm

Seeking the wisdom of this group on finding out/understanding how much is safe to lift when one has osteoporosis in the lumbar spine. I've heard everything from no more than 10 or 15 pounds (grocery bags!) to "heavier is better" (what you might lift at the gym). This mostly from Dr. Internet as my own doctors seem to deflect the question when asked what is safe for me to do (or what I should/shouldn't be doing). I have had no fractures and no issues (I know of) from "everyday lifting" and up to 70 lbs at the gym. I don't want to make things worse yet also know resistance/strength training can be very good for the bones.

For context: newly diagnosed with OP, lumbar spine T-score is -3.2 (hip/femur are in the osteopenia range). I do a lot of walking and and do resistance/strength training 3x week (working with a trainer). Currently weighing my options for osteoporosis medications (overwhelming).

Any advice is appreciated!

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Always best to check with a physician who either specializes or is well-versed on osteoporosis. I discovered I had osteoporosis when I lifted something that was heavy and as a result, I fractured 1 or 2 vertebrae. Don't take a chance. It's a very painful way to find out. When in doubt, don't pick it up.

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@nycmusic, Yes, this is largely true. That said, bone tissue responds to mechanical stress through a process called "Wolff's Law," which means that bones adapt and become stronger when the muscles pull on them during weight-bearing or resistance exercise.

When you lift weights, the contraction of the muscles places stress on the bones at their attachment points, which the signals bone-forming cells to maintain or increase bone density. Because the body adapts to repeated stress, continuing to use the exact same weight eventually provides less stimulus to the bones.

Gradually increasing the challenge over time (progressive overload) helps to maintain that stimulus so bones continue to receive the strengthening signal. This progression doesn't mean lifting very heavy weights; it can include modest increases in weight, additional repetitions or sets, greater resistance from bands, or more challenging movements that load the vulnerable areas - the hips, spine, and legs.

For those of us with osteoporosis, the most important factors are consistent weight-bearing and resistance exercise performed with good form and safe spinal alignment, with gradual progression rather than aggressive increases in load - but the load does need to increase over time.

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@babs10 Thanks ….very good info well said.

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Profile picture for jw9 @jw9

This is me too: overwhelmed for months trying to make a decision from 3 meds my rheumatologist named. It would be good to have a doctor's guidance, but I have to make the decision anyway. I'm following this discussion. Also have different exercise ideas. Something tells me I better get going with both decisions!

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@jw9

What are the three meds and has your doc explained why she is suggesting them?
It is my belief that one of the most important things that we can do while considering is to do your own research.

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@jw9

What are the three meds and has your doc explained why she is suggesting them?
It is my belief that one of the most important things that we can do while considering is to do your own research.

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@gravity3
My rheumatologist discussed why he is recommending medication for osteoporosis now, even though I have still have osteopenia. My DEXA this year, compared to 2 years ago showed significant decrease in the bone density of the lumbar spine and both femoral neck areas.

He feels it's important to preserve what bone density I have now. Since I have RA, infusions for that every 8 weeks, thyroid illness, some other meds I've taken. I'm 68 and have been disabled with autoimmune illness since I was 30.

As for the meds, he wrote these three down:
alendrondronate
reclast
prolia

One thing I read is that people with autoimmune illness have a harder time with side effects with Reclast. (This actually did nothing to increase my faith in him about bone meds)
Lumbar Spine 1.6
L. Femur Neck 2.1
R. Femur Neck 1.9
Femur Total L. 1.7
Femur Total R. 1.7

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@gravity3
My rheumatologist discussed why he is recommending medication for osteoporosis now, even though I have still have osteopenia. My DEXA this year, compared to 2 years ago showed significant decrease in the bone density of the lumbar spine and both femoral neck areas.

He feels it's important to preserve what bone density I have now. Since I have RA, infusions for that every 8 weeks, thyroid illness, some other meds I've taken. I'm 68 and have been disabled with autoimmune illness since I was 30.

As for the meds, he wrote these three down:
alendrondronate
reclast
prolia

One thing I read is that people with autoimmune illness have a harder time with side effects with Reclast. (This actually did nothing to increase my faith in him about bone meds)
Lumbar Spine 1.6
L. Femur Neck 2.1
R. Femur Neck 1.9
Femur Total L. 1.7
Femur Total R. 1.7

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@jw9

There is so much to learn about osteoporosis and it's treatment. It can be overwhelming. Sounds like you have a physician who is working closely with you.

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I worked with two physical therapists and showed them my DEXA Scan results. Neither therapist could tell me what the maximum weight I could lift. One of the therapist reviewed the list of gym equipment and exercises (strength and conditioning, stretching) and gave feedback on which exercises I can or can't do safely. They said no to lifting 40 lb salt pellet bags. One of them said no to shoveling wet, heavy snow. For equipment like torso rotation, I was told that I need to limit my range of motion. Back extension -> no. Abdominal crunches -> no. Side stretches -> need to limit range of motion. You get the idea.

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Profile picture for shorty321 @shorty321

I worked with two physical therapists and showed them my DEXA Scan results. Neither therapist could tell me what the maximum weight I could lift. One of the therapist reviewed the list of gym equipment and exercises (strength and conditioning, stretching) and gave feedback on which exercises I can or can't do safely. They said no to lifting 40 lb salt pellet bags. One of them said no to shoveling wet, heavy snow. For equipment like torso rotation, I was told that I need to limit my range of motion. Back extension -> no. Abdominal crunches -> no. Side stretches -> need to limit range of motion. You get the idea.

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@shorty321
Wow. No back extensions ? Interesting. I thought strong body program uses those. Thank you for sharing

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I worked with two physical therapists and showed them my DEXA Scan results. Neither therapist could tell me what the maximum weight I could lift. One of the therapist reviewed the list of gym equipment and exercises (strength and conditioning, stretching) and gave feedback on which exercises I can or can't do safely. They said no to lifting 40 lb salt pellet bags. One of them said no to shoveling wet, heavy snow. For equipment like torso rotation, I was told that I need to limit my range of motion. Back extension -> no. Abdominal crunches -> no. Side stretches -> need to limit range of motion. You get the idea.

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@shorty321

You could try melioguide.com. she is a physical therapist and seems to be very knowledgeable about osteoporosis and exercises that take it into consideration.

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@shorty321
Wow. No back extensions ? Interesting. I thought strong body program uses those. Thank you for sharing

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@patwerthman
My understanding is that flexion is okay but extension is not. Avoid extreme twisting of the spine, forward bends and rollups often used in yoga and pilates. Margaret Martin is a well-informed guide to safe movements. I think a few years ago the National Osteoporosis Foundation published one page guides to yoga and pilates.

Here is one link to Margaret Martin's information which is far more reliable than mine.
https://melioguide.com/osteoporosis-prevention/osteoporosis-exercise-contraindications/

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I worked with two physical therapists and showed them my DEXA Scan results. Neither therapist could tell me what the maximum weight I could lift. One of the therapist reviewed the list of gym equipment and exercises (strength and conditioning, stretching) and gave feedback on which exercises I can or can't do safely. They said no to lifting 40 lb salt pellet bags. One of them said no to shoveling wet, heavy snow. For equipment like torso rotation, I was told that I need to limit my range of motion. Back extension -> no. Abdominal crunches -> no. Side stretches -> need to limit range of motion. You get the idea.

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@shorty321 thanks for the info. Did the therapist mention anything about using a leg press?

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