Shocked by aging process

Posted by seniormiz @seniormiz, Jan 25 8:54am

My fingernails and toenails stopped growing and just keep breaking off. My hair is falling out. My memory is not as sharp and sometimes I feel a little woozy. I hate this. I want my body and my senses back.

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Profile picture for nohrt4me (Jean) @nohrt4me

I have had a chronic cancer for 11 years. Mobility, appearance, and energy are all on the downward slide. I no longer fear death. I do fear the godawful end-of-life care on offer in modern America--a warehouse without dignity or privacy, the cost of which beggars your family, and inadequate symptom and pain control.

I am grateful every day for being able to call my own shots. Sometimes I miss being cute and looking good in a skirt and heels. But I am less impulsive and a lot wiser. So there's that.

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@nohrt4me It's funny how way back when I was never thrilled with how I looked and when I look back now.. I was just right. I too, miss dressing up and feeling dressed up.. my younger self. For me... sometimes its just a challenge to do it. I live in Colorado and we have MAID, Medical Aid in Dying so I am all ready for it if I need it. "Hospice" also offers comfort care..if my family will follow my direction. My Aunt in MN is in her last weeks and her out of state kids refused Morphine for her pain. That has been resolved by my cousin who watches over her. We never know... Cheers for today. We are here~ !!!

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Aging of course is inevitable (unless you die young) and I've found it has many rewards, but I want to take a moment and consider how to deal with its stress and loss. I'm sure most have us have not reached our sixties and seventies without already experiencing the vicissitudes of life. So my question is--what has worked for you, as a rule, to address kinds of suffering that can't be avoided? I'd include, illness, loss of capacity, the suffering and death of others, and even mundane things like having to move or losing a job. I do feel we build resilience and self-knowledge as we go. Personally, I was very ill in my 20s and widowed in my early 40s. But fortunately I acquired a lot of strategies that work for me. Still, this is hardly one size fits all. So not looking for advice but rather to hear about other people's strengths. I would include humor and yes, a bit of whining to a good friend, in my toolbox to deal with life. You?

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Profile picture for frouke @frouke

My mom was a very wise woman and also a holocaust survivor, she was a POW for five years and lost her family including young ones. She always told me to keep my sense of humour and not to take myself too seriously, if I ever bemoaned myself about getting older she would say, then die young, I know it sounds harsh but there’s a point in there. I lost her a while ago and now I’m almost 75 years old and in my sixth year lung cancer survivor, believe me when I say that you’re privileged to get older because so many people don’t get to experience it including children, God bless you.

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@frouke your mom was very smart. She could have felt upset the rest of her life.
I am 80 this year. I have a new ankle and a new knee. I can no longer run like the wind 🤣 but I swim 3x a week, lift weights at a gym 2x a week and play pickleball 2x a week. I just keep on keeping on. I choose life. I don’t like the other choice.

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@robertaeh
To age about 44 we are expanding. After that, the contraction begins.- s l o w l y. One day it hits us - this is downhill. I didn't sign up for this. In the west, we try going backwards to reclaim our youth. Plastic surgery, hair plugs, supplements , every snake oil potion on line. It doesn't work. We should be in the chronological place we are. Think and behave accordingly. It's actually easier. King Solomon said something like " The day of your death is better than the day of your birth, because on the day of your death, you now know what your life was, and what Life is."
Bill Murray said this in Caddy Shack describing his encounter with the Dalai Lama.
I never could accept the end of things: summer, family gatherings, camp, junking an old car that I drove for years, my girlfriend.
Then Leonard Cohen did "Closing Time." Someone finally taught me that THINGS END. Get used to it!
If you don't want things to end, don't get them started. Zen Buddhism: Only the unborn are the undying.
We have Life/Death. Can't escape it. Instead of agonizing over the existential issue, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO (with your gift of Life) IN BETWEEN the two.
I still have a hard time hearing the song The Party's Over.❤️

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@shmerdloff
Whether it’s simply enjoying watching clouds, hearing the birds, watching the skiers on the slopes or being a skier on the slopes, make the most of it … till the party is actually over.

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Aging of course is inevitable (unless you die young) and I've found it has many rewards, but I want to take a moment and consider how to deal with its stress and loss. I'm sure most have us have not reached our sixties and seventies without already experiencing the vicissitudes of life. So my question is--what has worked for you, as a rule, to address kinds of suffering that can't be avoided? I'd include, illness, loss of capacity, the suffering and death of others, and even mundane things like having to move or losing a job. I do feel we build resilience and self-knowledge as we go. Personally, I was very ill in my 20s and widowed in my early 40s. But fortunately I acquired a lot of strategies that work for me. Still, this is hardly one size fits all. So not looking for advice but rather to hear about other people's strengths. I would include humor and yes, a bit of whining to a good friend, in my toolbox to deal with life. You?

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@mir123 A lot of the strategies I acquired to cope with loss in my high-energy 40s just don't work now that I'm 70 and have chronic cancer, a wonky heart valve, and a bad back.

I have learned to move on days when fatigue and dyspnea aren't bothering me and to knit and read when they are. So I always feel like I am accomplishing something.

I also have a keen eye for the ridiculous. For ex, my husband and I have taken to watching weiner dog races on YouTube after watching the godawful news.

Americans generally, however, want you to stay strong, be a warrior, fight the inevitable, and stay positive. They want to hear about your successes, not how some days are a big slog. (For those who find that hard to take or for whom the "warrior" metaphors don't work, I recommend Barbara Ehrenreich's "Bright-Sided.")

So many friends have died before their time, and I have no one I really want to confide in on bad days. So I find these anonymous support groups very helpful!

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@mir123 A lot of the strategies I acquired to cope with loss in my high-energy 40s just don't work now that I'm 70 and have chronic cancer, a wonky heart valve, and a bad back.

I have learned to move on days when fatigue and dyspnea aren't bothering me and to knit and read when they are. So I always feel like I am accomplishing something.

I also have a keen eye for the ridiculous. For ex, my husband and I have taken to watching weiner dog races on YouTube after watching the godawful news.

Americans generally, however, want you to stay strong, be a warrior, fight the inevitable, and stay positive. They want to hear about your successes, not how some days are a big slog. (For those who find that hard to take or for whom the "warrior" metaphors don't work, I recommend Barbara Ehrenreich's "Bright-Sided.")

So many friends have died before their time, and I have no one I really want to confide in on bad days. So I find these anonymous support groups very helpful!

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@nohrt4me Thank you for such a thoughtful reply. I love Ehrenreich's book, and was lucky to have read it years ago and let it influence me. Your approach makes sense. I have a little list of things to do when pain is high and energy is low. I can find tv/movies too deadening so usually read or draw or just sort the sock drawer! Very mild stretching to music can be good too. I appreciate your checking in.

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@nohrt4me Thank you for such a thoughtful reply. I love Ehrenreich's book, and was lucky to have read it years ago and let it influence me. Your approach makes sense. I have a little list of things to do when pain is high and energy is low. I can find tv/movies too deadening so usually read or draw or just sort the sock drawer! Very mild stretching to music can be good too. I appreciate your checking in.

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@mir123 I second the mild stretching! Some days I can get on the floor and do 20 minutes of gentle yoga. Sometimes I just do balancing holding on to the back of a chair for a few minutes. I do practice getting up off the floor on my own power every day. It's not pretty, but I can do it.

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Profile picture for dmbwa99362 @dmbwa99362

Oh, I hear ya! I am not accepting my aging well. It feels like it happened overnight. I was feeling great and loving my age and then all of a sudden I'm having all sorts of different medical situations. I am also overwhelmed with the thought of how many years I have left, which leaves me with many regrets and personal disappointments. I will be 61 in March.

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@dmbwa99362 If you are only 61 you have many new experiences ahead, people you can make laugh or smile, or bring comfort to. Look forward to each new adventure. I have met many new folks and we have laughed together particularly when my shrunken body can no longer reach either the top shelves or even the bottom shelves and they always ask to help and then 5 min. later we are sharing stories.

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Profile picture for nohrt4me (Jean) @nohrt4me

@mir123 I second the mild stretching! Some days I can get on the floor and do 20 minutes of gentle yoga. Sometimes I just do balancing holding on to the back of a chair for a few minutes. I do practice getting up off the floor on my own power every day. It's not pretty, but I can do it.

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@nohrt4me I was charmed to hear you get up off the floor every day, because I practice it daily as well! I don't want to fall and be unable to get up because I haven't kept those muscles in shape. It's also good as I have a 6 year old grand daughter. I often use a cane when walking, but getting up is unaided. I'm glad though that I don't have an audience!

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Profile picture for Miriam, Volunteer Mentor @mir123

Aging of course is inevitable (unless you die young) and I've found it has many rewards, but I want to take a moment and consider how to deal with its stress and loss. I'm sure most have us have not reached our sixties and seventies without already experiencing the vicissitudes of life. So my question is--what has worked for you, as a rule, to address kinds of suffering that can't be avoided? I'd include, illness, loss of capacity, the suffering and death of others, and even mundane things like having to move or losing a job. I do feel we build resilience and self-knowledge as we go. Personally, I was very ill in my 20s and widowed in my early 40s. But fortunately I acquired a lot of strategies that work for me. Still, this is hardly one size fits all. So not looking for advice but rather to hear about other people's strengths. I would include humor and yes, a bit of whining to a good friend, in my toolbox to deal with life. You?

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@mir123 This is a great question!

"what has worked for you, as a rule, to address kinds of suffering that can't be avoided?" My regular mindset follows a fairly logical pattern, rather than emotional. My goal at this point is to have or create the best quality of life I can figure out. This means playing to the strengths I know within myself. Using appropriate humor. Figuring out how best to address any suffering, and making my life more palatable. I now use a cane full time, but the ones I have, have been "prettified"! Thinking and being logical about solutions. Understanding that others around me may be in similar situations and offering them a "place to land" and holding space for them.
Ginger

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