Anyone have Athsma & Bronchiectasis?

Posted by lreid51 @lreid51, 3 days ago

Hello everyone — I’m new here and glad to join this community. I have asthma and recently learned I also have bronchiectasis, and I’m trying to understand how the two conditions interact in real life.
Has anyone here been diagnosed with both asthma and bronchiectasis? If so, could you share:
• What treatments or routines helped the most (inhalers, airway clearance techniques, physiotherapy, mucolytic, long term or inhaled antibiotics, macrolides, etc.).
• How you manage infections and whether you work with a respirologist, infectious disease specialist, or chest physiotherapist.
• Any practical tips for daily life: managing sputum, exercise, travel, vaccinations, or recognizing when to seek urgent care.
• What tests or specialists were most helpful in getting the right diagnosis and treatment plan.
I appreciate any personal experiences, specific strategies, or resources you found useful. Thank you — your insights will really help me figure out next steps.
— Lynn

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@lreid51 - thanks for this tip about the hot lemon and honey drink to calm coughing. Any particular recipe you suggest for this drink?

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@lisalucier I am gonna try that

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Hiya.
I'm a retired(still get offered jobs) Registered Respiratory Therapist/ECMO Specialist with 35 years in critical care.
Have had Asthma my whole life and now Bronchiectasis at age 69. I've been intubated and even coded and died with my Asthma over my life time.

Are you a smoker? Don't smoke.

Is your Asthma allergic, environmental(mine is) or eosinophilic?

I took steroids for decades. I literally have taken so many steroids(to survive) that I get seriously sick now. When I was taking care of Covid patients starting in March 2020 we talked about steroids(which we gave a lot of) and DHEA. I didn't know anything about DHEA. So researched it. In 2023 I started taking DHEA/ 50 Mgs. a day. For me this was a miracle(for me!). DHEA stimulates the Adrenals to produce natural hormones and steroid hormones. Once again this was a miracle for me. It cut back my bronchiectasis and reduced my asthma. My Pulmonologist is aware of what I'm doing and agrees.

I drink a LOT of hot tea which has Theophylline and is a natural thing to help us Asthmatics. And great for sputum removal. Cough drops help. Ginger and mint tea and Ginger candies help.

Sputum removal. I use a Acapella(PEP) or Aerobika for years now. It works great. Actually the BEST for Bronchiectasis in my opinion. And fits in a purse nicely.

Once in awhile when my sputum is really thick? I take an aerosol Tx. with Mucomyst. I'm assuming you have a home compressor to take aerosol txs.? If not there really not that expensive.

I just keep up with it all. I control it as best I can. Have Prednisone, MDIs, Levaquin always available. Taught my husband how to do cpt. I also get seriously bad bacterial bronchitis. Since my Asthma is environmental none of the Flovent type of drugs work. A prophylactic drug might help you. They don't for me. I used Spiriva for awhile. It did nothing for my Bronchiectasis.
We are all different so you just have to find out what works for you.

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@ecmoandrrt
Hi, I am very new to all of this, I have had Athame for 5 years but was not informed that I also had bronchiectasis too. 2 weeks ago I started with a cough, it was worse the next day, a very deep thunder cough, there was no nose involvement. Third day fever, whole body in pain. I was told to call the paramedics who told me I had the prefect storm going on. In 10 minutes they had me in the ER. I did not know what I had I didn't even know about an emergency inhaler. I had to be told it was the inhaler that I use during the day but more when it gets hard to breath. I went through the regular treatments x-ray, CT scan blood test and an explanation of what I had and that I would have an appointment with a Respirologist. My doctor will send me for another CT scan in a few months so that is all I know. I have been looking on the internet for more information and for ways I can help myself, I hope I can get help from those who have more experience than I have.

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I have both asthma and bronchiectasis (with MAC). It is challenging having these conditions together. Here's what works for me:
-I was diagnosed with eosinophilic asthma by an asthma/allergy/immunology doctor. The PA I had been seeing in his office referred me to him for an "immune workup" to see if I had anything else going on besides regular allergies and environmental asthma. He prescribed Fasenra for the eosinophilic asthma; this treatment has helped greatly.
-I use Breyna daily for asthma; albuterol as needed; nebulized albuterol when wheezing a lot
-for me, asthma wheezing sounds different and is usually accompanied by tightness in chest and coughing and is relieved by 2 puffs of albuterol
-bronchiectasis wheezing sounds deeper, almost like pneumonia crackling, and gets better or goes away after I nebulize with 3% saline solution twice daily (prescribed by my pulmonologist)
-If I'm still having trouble with a dry unproductive cough, I take 1-2 puffs albuterol which usually helps calm it down.
-If I'm concerned about my symptoms, I message or call one of my specialists for guidance (do I need an appointment, urgent care, or the ER?)
-I use a flutter valve once a day mid-afternoon, and/or active breathing technique when I start coughing again in between am/pm saline nebulized session.
-to prevent infections I wear a mask when in public indoor settings (my pulmonologist recommended this, since even a cold could exacerbate my lung problems)
-I wash my hands as soon as I get home; and use hand sanitizer when I'm out in public
-I get a flu and covid shot every fall (also got an RSV shot at age 60)

I take it one day at a time. Some days are better than others. Meanwhile, I continue to see 3 specialists for these: asthma doc, pulmonologist, and infectious disease for the MAC.

I have learned a lot from this patient community and also the NTMir Global Forum. It will take some time to learn all you need to know, so I suggest you check in here regularly and read the posts, and links to educational videos and documents.

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@kaypnw

Wow that is a lot to handle!
You are doing everything right and correct.
Bravo/Brava

I take all the vaccines of course. Especially RSV.
I wear a mask in public. Hand washing is the most important. Also I try never to use public restrooms. Why? Fecal Matter is aerosolized when you flush and travels around the BR. So your breathing that in without wearing a mask it's not good. Yuck.
One day at at a time.

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My comments:
PEP (Positive Expiratory Pressure) therapy works by using a handheld device with a valve or resistor that you breathe out into, creating back pressure in your airways to hold them open, loosen sticky mucus, and move it up so you can cough or huff it out, with some devices adding vibrations to further dislodge mucus, common for conditions like Cystic Fibrosis or COPD or Bronchiectasis. Oscillating PEP (OPEP) devices, like Flutter or Acapella, add vibrations (fluttering) to the air, which helps shake mucus loose from the airway walls. Cough/Huff: After several breaths (around 10-15), you stop the device and perform "huff coughs" (a strong, forced exhalation with an open mouth) to bring the loosened mucus up and out.
I use Acapella, Aerobika. It really works.

lreid51 You MUST make appointments with Allergist and Pulmonary. ASAP. This is serious. Reading what we do is fine. But also useless without you having good Drs. prescribing the best treatments for you. And make sure you tell them everything(I take notes with me if I forget).
We are all different and what I have might not be for you.

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Oh one more thing I've told to 1000s of patients.

You have Asthma and you have an attack. You get your MDI. If those two to four puffs are not working? TAKE more puffs!! Take eight to ten and GET TO ER!!! Don't WAIT because that could be death!!!

One of my dear friends had Asthma and was a Respiratory Therapist. We were working together(at our hospital) and he kept taking aerosols. He was in ER and they wanted to admit him. He refused as he wanted to go to his hospital(a lot of us have favorite hospital)!! NO. We begged him to stay. He said he could make it.
He died in the parking lot of HIS hospital.

Public service announcement over.

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@kaypnw Curious if you also tried allergy immunotherapy (aka allergy shots)?

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@scoop
Yes, I did do allergy shots for 6 years. I had severe allergies to all the major tree pollens. Now, I hardly have any symptoms during pollen season!

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There are many videos on YouTube explaining how to do airway clearing technique with huff cough--this is how I learned; doing this twice daily helps clear mucus from lungs in people with bronchiectasis.

Also, my pulmonologist gave me a "flutter valve" to blow into every day; it vibrates my chest and helps loosen the mucus (good for people with bronchiectasis). You can search for flutter valve and find examples.

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Thank you for this information I am new to this and it gave me an understanding and more information about this condition.

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Hi there, I am more complicated than most people replying on this post. In addition to asthma and bronchiectasis, I have CVID- a Primary Immunodeficiency. It stands for Common Variable Immune Deficiency. I get anywhere from 6-8 sinus infections a year. I do subcutaneous treatments (infusions) weekly, so that helps me some. I do my netti pot and navage from time to time, need to be more regular with that. I like to get in the sauna and steam room as well. I use nose sprays- saline spray and flonase and zyrtec. I see a Rhinologist and ENT, Immunologist, Pulmonologist and my allergy Dr-which she is also my Immunologist. I have an inhaler- level albuterol and Budesonide that I use. In addition, I also use a nebulizer- level albuterol and I have a more natural solution that my Functional Medicine Dr. gave me for my nebulizer. I wear a mask when I am outside and in places where I am around a lot of people. I am allergic to grass, trees, mold, pollen, etc... it helps tremendously so I'm not sneezing all the time or getting colds, etc... I also take Singulair, which helps with my breathing. I am going to a Functional Medicine Dr. right now and she has been wonderful. I would highly recommend going to one. Warning, insurance doesn't cover everything with Functional Medicine Dr's, so there are some out of pocket cost expenses. My Functional Medicine Dr. did a whole slew of labwork on me, as I have been having a lot of fatigue, muscle aches, very little energy. I got back some interesting results- I was low on B vitamins and I have abnormal issues going on with my thyroid too. She has recommended supplements and vitamins and a new -vitamin and a different nebulizer solution. They have a health coach, who has examined my food log and made recommendations on different foods that I could switch to and focus on more veggies, protein/meats and some fruits. I did get food testing done, as well. I have had that done in the past too. I have several food intolerances, so if you haven't had any type of food testing done on you, I would highly recommend that. I had no clue I had issues with wheat/gluten and dairy/eggs! I am gluten free, wheat free and dairy/egg free. I do feel so much better after cutting all that out. There is 2 types of food testing and it is great to get both of them, why- because you get 2 different types of results, as they aren't the same type of test. Allergies Dr- typical food allergy testing- is done "prick" style, with a needle on your arm or back. Alternative food testing is done in a lab taking your blood and testing it in a lab. Well, you get a report back on what food allergies/intolerances you have and they grade it by a 3 being the highest and 2 medium and 1 is a low intolerance. My acid reflux has improved as well from changing my diet. My asthma is the "coughing" kind of asthma, occasionally I will wheeze or hear whistling when I breathe. I have very mild asthma. The bronchiectasis is a newer diagnosis that I got a year ago. I do see a Lung Specialist, called a Lung Nodule Specialist- as I have 2 lung nodules, however they are very tiny. Hope this helps you!

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Oh one more thing I've told to 1000s of patients.

You have Asthma and you have an attack. You get your MDI. If those two to four puffs are not working? TAKE more puffs!! Take eight to ten and GET TO ER!!! Don't WAIT because that could be death!!!

One of my dear friends had Asthma and was a Respiratory Therapist. We were working together(at our hospital) and he kept taking aerosols. He was in ER and they wanted to admit him. He refused as he wanted to go to his hospital(a lot of us have favorite hospital)!! NO. We begged him to stay. He said he could make it.
He died in the parking lot of HIS hospital.

Public service announcement over.

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@ecmoandrrt

Several years ago I had to pull over in the car because I could not breathe. I knew it was an asthma attack. I was right down the road from the hospital but could not get there. I had to get out of the car to stand tall and try to breathe. I called the hospital and told them I was having breathing problems. They put me thru, thank God, to the emergency room. I told the nurse what was happening and that I had taken my limit of emergency drugs. 4 puffs and it still was not working. She screamed into the phone, "Take more... as many as you need to breathe." So I did, and I finally was able to get my lungs to open enough to breathe. Very scary, but they tell you usually two puffs of emergency inhaler. It was about 8 total that one day. The most I have ever had to take. I usually have to take 3 any other time. The tree huggers caused the pharmaceutical companies to change their propellant years ago. The inhalers never worked as well again. They all had counters on them as well. Get to the bottom, it doesn't come out in full doses anymore either. I throw all of my inhalers away at about 20 puffs left and get new ones. Thank God I only have to use maybe 1 emergency inhaler in a years time and then I throw most of it away and get a new one.

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