How do I know if things are worse?

Posted by playgdough12 @playgdough12, Oct 26 7:37am

How do I know if things are getting worse?

My mom’s dementia seems to have gotten noticeably worse over the past few days. We’ve had street repair work going on nearby, with heavy machinery and loud noise, and I think it might have affected her.

A few days ago, while the workers were out with their equipment, two of her sons came to take her out for a few hours to a place about two hours away, where there were a lot of people around. That day, before they arrived, Mom was already acting a little confused. We waited downstairs for about 45 minutes in the midst of all the noise and vibration from the machines.

When they brought her back later, I noticed a big change — her dementia, aphasia, memory, and general cognitive function all seemed to decline further. I had trouble understanding her speech, and she repeated herself even more than usual. I thought it might pass and she’d return to her “new normal,” but she hasn’t.

I’m not sure if the change was triggered by the dementia alone, the pacemaker being near heavy equipment, or a combination of both.

Tonight, about half an hour ago, she went into the bathroom by herself and stayed there longer than usual. After about 15 minutes, I checked on her and found her sitting on the toilet, trying to take off her shirt while her pants were still pulled up.

When I asked if she still needed to use the bathroom, she said yes — that’s what she was trying to do.

She became irritated and told me she’d try my way tomorrow, called me a pest, and said I was getting on her nerves. When I left briefly to get my phone to document her behavior, I returned to find her standing up, reaching into her pants, and wiping with toilet paper — though she had never actually urinated or pulled her pants down.

I checked afterward, and she was completely dry. I’m worried that since she didn’t go, she might wet the bed later. She sleeps in an adjustable bed with a waterproof mattress protector, but I worry about the risk of electrical damage or malfunction if it gets wet.

She’s 93 and likely in the late stages of dementia. She’s still somewhat independent but has poor balance and stumbles frequently. She refuses to use mobility aids like a walker or rollator indoors, using only a cane for doctor visits. Because of this, I escort her to the bathroom, as she often bumps into walls and has trouble standing upright.

Recently, she’s also begun refusing to sit up fully in bed during meals or meditation, preferring to stay reclined with two pillows behind her head. She says it’s more comfortable that way and that once she’s settled, it’s too hard to readjust. I worry about the risk of choking or aspiration pneumonia when she eats in this position.

Part of why I stayed with her so long in the bathroom was to prevent an accident. She’s extremely sensitive to noise now and dislikes the sounds of cleaning machines, vacuums, or even opening and closing doors. She also can’t tolerate cleaning product scents, even mild or unscented ones. She’s lost a lot of weight over the past three years — from 160 pounds to 121 — and is often cold. Because of this, she resists changing clothes or bathing after accidents, since she hates being cold.

When I reminded her she’d need to bathe and change if she had an accident, she said that was fine, she’d just do that.

Mom also has epilepsy and experiences “talking seizures,” where she rambles incoherently and repeats certain Bible verses over and over as the seizure progresses. While I was trying to reason with her in the bathroom, she started reciting her usual passage repeatedly, so I backed off and left the room — and the episode stopped shortly afterward.

I can’t tell whether tonight’s behavior means her dementia is worsening or if she was just disoriented from waking up, as she often is at night.

I feel awful. I lose my patience sometimes — I raise my voice, get frustrated, and don’t always know how to talk to her. When she has brief moments of clarity and speaks rationally,
I talk to her normally again, and then when her confusion returns, it’s hard to switch back to the right way of communicating.

I feel sad, stressed, and angry — not at her, but at the disease. I just hope she somehow knows that. I worry she might think I’m angry with her, when really, I’m just overwhelmed and heartbroken.

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@celia16
My husband sits on the toilet for long periods of time —sometimes 45 minutes —and I know he's not doing anything. But can't tell me why. Your dad thought he was still urinating even though he wasn't? Could he tell you that he thought he was still urinating?

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@trishaanderson, yes. He was able to have conversations about it. He would say, I’m peeing, but he was not. We would say that we didn’t hear it. He’d say, yes, I AM doing it. This went on for up to an hour. My mom would even go to him and hand him tissue paper and ask him to hold the tissue paper underneath him. Totally dry. No urine. But, he was not convinced. He still believed he was urinating. We, along with his doctor, concluded that he had a full feeling from his prostate that felt full. So, he took a med for his prostate. I’m not sure it helped. We had him checked for UTI and it was always negative.

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@ocdogmom my husband has had 2 hospital visits with symptoms that indicate uti but both were negative. The first showed E. coli in blood that required 12 days of I V antibiotics. 20 days later same symptoms, frequent urination and weak and confused, negative ua once again. Possible pneumonia? No symptoms. So confusing.

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@cnutt
My husband is having recurrent UTIs now - the previous 3 times he went to the doctor, the urine tests were negative, despite symptoms. But they sent the sample off to the lab to be cultured the 3rd time, and it came back positive for 3 strains of a wet antibiotic resistant bacteria (meaning only a couple of antibiotics would work - and they weren’t the antibiotics the doctor had prescribed in case there really was a UTI that the test missed.) It’s not unusual to have a negative urine test but still have a UTI - that’s why they need to grow out the urine culture at the lab to see what bacteria are there in order not to miss the infection and to target the treatment more effectively. Reliance on the in-office urine test alone isn’t enough.

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Whenever I noticed changes with my husband I would "journal" it and either bring it up at his next dr. appointment or email his dr. and go from there. Alot was overwhelming and challenging as time moved forward and I needed to make sure I was taking care of him the way he needed, to help us get thru all these challenges, so documenting was the best way for me so I could get the best advice from his doctor.
Strength, Peace and Hugs

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@cnutt
My husband is having recurrent UTIs now - the previous 3 times he went to the doctor, the urine tests were negative, despite symptoms. But they sent the sample off to the lab to be cultured the 3rd time, and it came back positive for 3 strains of a wet antibiotic resistant bacteria (meaning only a couple of antibiotics would work - and they weren’t the antibiotics the doctor had prescribed in case there really was a UTI that the test missed.) It’s not unusual to have a negative urine test but still have a UTI - that’s why they need to grow out the urine culture at the lab to see what bacteria are there in order not to miss the infection and to target the treatment more effectively. Reliance on the in-office urine test alone isn’t enough.

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@melness3 thank you!!! We see a urologist in 2 weeks. Hopefully he will follow this path!

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Profile picture for bayviewgal @bayviewgal

Whenever I noticed changes with my husband I would "journal" it and either bring it up at his next dr. appointment or email his dr. and go from there. Alot was overwhelming and challenging as time moved forward and I needed to make sure I was taking care of him the way he needed, to help us get thru all these challenges, so documenting was the best way for me so I could get the best advice from his doctor.
Strength, Peace and Hugs

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@bayviewgal
How are you doing? How is your Dear Husband acclimating to his new surroundings?
Trish

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An infection in the blood- septicemia- is serious especially in someone who has other health issues and is older. It is good that it was caught and treated. I would think that a chest x-ray would rule out pneumonia. Pneumonia is common in older people especially those with dementia because again the sensory input from the body to the brain that controls the swallowing muscles is damaged. Aspiration pneumonia is common. The feeling of having to urinate frequently could be due the failure of the part of his brain that tells him when he has to go. With dementia the whole brain is failing, not just memory. He may not be getting the correct input from his body to his brain. I you haven't already done so, I would recommend learning as much as you can about how dementia affects the entire brain. I found lots of information on the Alzheimer's Association website and Teepa Snow's website. God bless you and your loved one.

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@ocdogmom thank you, I do read all I can get ahold of. This site is wonderful too.

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@cnutt
My husband is having recurrent UTIs now - the previous 3 times he went to the doctor, the urine tests were negative, despite symptoms. But they sent the sample off to the lab to be cultured the 3rd time, and it came back positive for 3 strains of a wet antibiotic resistant bacteria (meaning only a couple of antibiotics would work - and they weren’t the antibiotics the doctor had prescribed in case there really was a UTI that the test missed.) It’s not unusual to have a negative urine test but still have a UTI - that’s why they need to grow out the urine culture at the lab to see what bacteria are there in order not to miss the infection and to target the treatment more effectively. Reliance on the in-office urine test alone isn’t enough.

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@melness3 Try cranberry extract daily. Often solves problems with UTIs.

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@cnutt
My husband is having recurrent UTIs now - the previous 3 times he went to the doctor, the urine tests were negative, despite symptoms. But they sent the sample off to the lab to be cultured the 3rd time, and it came back positive for 3 strains of a wet antibiotic resistant bacteria (meaning only a couple of antibiotics would work - and they weren’t the antibiotics the doctor had prescribed in case there really was a UTI that the test missed.) It’s not unusual to have a negative urine test but still have a UTI - that’s why they need to grow out the urine culture at the lab to see what bacteria are there in order not to miss the infection and to target the treatment more effectively. Reliance on the in-office urine test alone isn’t enough.

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@melness3 going this right now.

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@melness3 Try cranberry extract daily. Often solves problems with UTIs.

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@gilkesl Yes ! Sure helps prevent uti.

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@playgdough12, I wanted to check in. How are you doing?

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