Has anyone ever shrunk an Aneurysm?

Posted by tripleaaa @tripleaaa, Apr 30, 2024

On 2/5/24 I took myself to the ER for ongoing sharp back pain (waited all day). The CT scan revealed a AAA at 7.9 on the verge of rupturing, plus 2 others. The next largest one is a 5.4 Ascending. I’m still recovering from the first life saving surgery and I was wondering in anyone has any information on shrinking an Aneurysm naturally.

I’m 51, in good shape and never smoked however I chewed tobacco or used nicotine pouches for 30 years (up until the surgery). My next scan is September. I’ve tried researching this topic but there is no information and no one says you can’t shrink it holistically but they also don’t offer any other information.

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thevikole, I am glad you were able to reduce your aneurysm with dietary habits, etc. Can you elaborate on the items you would personally credit for the reduction. Thanks, as I am in the same situation.

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NOOOO saturated fats whatsoever, EVER! Stuff myself with fresh fruits of every kind two and three cups of tea geen and regular w/ pinches of ginger, anise, lemon balm, mint, rosemary... drink a liter of PomPom PomPom pomegrante juice daily and boatload of fresh unchlorinated tap water!

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New to AAA support group,
Just diagnosed w/ 4.6 cm ascending aortic aneurysm. Taking spironolactone & Metoprolol to lower BP. Not yet stable. I live in an archipelago with limited medical resources and hopeful this stabilizes! ... but chest & back pain are present almost consistently believing for years the discomfort was lung related. (Nodular MAC diagnosis) Frightening as my Cardiologist is not an aorta specialist.

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New to AAA support group,
Just diagnosed w/ 4.6 cm ascending aortic aneurysm. Taking spironolactone & Metoprolol to lower BP. Not yet stable. I live in an archipelago with limited medical resources and hopeful this stabilizes! ... but chest & back pain are present almost consistently believing for years the discomfort was lung related. (Nodular MAC diagnosis) Frightening as my Cardiologist is not an aorta specialist.

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I would say, given your situation, assuming that you’re somewhere in a beautiful remote Pacific Island, that you probably should consider the prospects of meeting with the thoracic surgeon in a major Medical Center near you. This is not the kind of condition that lens itself well to emergencies. I dissected in 2015 I was in the middle of San Diego and was in an ambulance within three minutes. I barely survived. If access to medical care is hours away the likelihood that you would survive a sudden dissection is pretty small I would think. So given that, I think you owe it to yourself and your family to meet with a thoracic surgeon who specializes in aortic repair. I don’t say that lately I sat with direct experience. If you live out in the middle of nowhere and emergency, open-heart surgery is hours away by boat or helicopter, you’ve got a real problem I would think. So the solution is to meet with the thoracic surgeon who does the surgeries and explain to them your geographic situation and ask them whether or not that risk could be mitigated by earlier surgery. I’m not a doctor, but I am a survivor of a massive aortic dissection and I can tell you that having been in downtown San Diego made a massive difference in my survival chances. If I knew then what I know now, I would’ve opted for surgery 1000 times out of 1000 rather than wait for a dissection. And one more important point: my experience has been that cardiologist who prescribe pills and even do interventional cardiology with stance do not have any Real concept of what a dissection feels like or how to surgically survive it. You need to meet with a thoracic surgeon who’s an aortic specialist. They’re out there. Especially in a Pacific Paradise! Peace.

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New to AAA support group,
Just diagnosed w/ 4.6 cm ascending aortic aneurysm. Taking spironolactone & Metoprolol to lower BP. Not yet stable. I live in an archipelago with limited medical resources and hopeful this stabilizes! ... but chest & back pain are present almost consistently believing for years the discomfort was lung related. (Nodular MAC diagnosis) Frightening as my Cardiologist is not an aorta specialist.

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Aloha Tutu;
Pau Hana time, Grandma, but not until we get the right doctor. Thanks for sharing your situation. I too have the same diagnosis and live in Juneau Alaska which does not enjoy even a cardiologist much less a thoracic surgeon who specializes in aortic aneurysms. So, in a few months I will travel to find the correct specialist. I have followed ""Moonboy"" for several months since he has not only been through the grinder and survived but also has a thoughtful and measured approach to our disease.
Aloha Oe

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NOOOO saturated fats whatsoever, EVER! Stuff myself with fresh fruits of every kind two and three cups of tea geen and regular w/ pinches of ginger, anise, lemon balm, mint, rosemary... drink a liter of PomPom PomPom pomegrante juice daily and boatload of fresh unchlorinated tap water!

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Hey thevikole
That's quite a diet. You did not say how many aneurysms or what size they shrunk from or to. I am wondering if there is a mite of exaggeration in that diet since I am sure I would die of drowning or diarrhea at a minimum. You also did not say if you were diagnosed by a doctor prior to going on that diet. Just curious!

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Aloha Tutu;
Pau Hana time, Grandma, but not until we get the right doctor. Thanks for sharing your situation. I too have the same diagnosis and live in Juneau Alaska which does not enjoy even a cardiologist much less a thoracic surgeon who specializes in aortic aneurysms. So, in a few months I will travel to find the correct specialist. I have followed ""Moonboy"" for several months since he has not only been through the grinder and survived but also has a thoughtful and measured approach to our disease.
Aloha Oe

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Aloha Dew,
No, not pau hana yet brah.

Cardio Dr now has me on metoprolol too. Very sleepy.,
Oh my goodness what a ride this has become.!!

I too, am inspired by “Moon boy’s” detailed postings as I now anticipate future postings while you meander through mainland Cardiologust Options. Stay Akamai & breathe deeply. A hui hou, Tutu

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Hello @tripleaaa - welcome to Mayo Clinic Connect.

You pose a very interesting question, and like you, I had a hard time gathering information. However, here are a few articles that you may find insightful:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8910935/#:~:text=Recent%20studies%20demonstrate%20that%20patients,AAA%20will%20shrink%20or%20not, https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/mayo-clinic-q-and-a-most-aortic-aneurysms-are-small-develop-slowly/.

It doesn't appear that there are any known paths to reversing the growth of an AAA naturally. The NIH study acknowledges that the research and guidelines need updating as they are decades old, but there is no mention of natural remedies to reverse.

@tripleaaa - were you given any guidelines as far as your activity and lifestyle go after your lifesaving surgery?

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@JustinMcClanahan Yes. I did in 6 months. 1st ultrasound tested for AAA in April 2025 had a 3.83 x 3.39 lower non bulging aneurysm. Had a 6 month follow-up ultrasound had 2.56 x 3.38. In April I told my PCP the 6 month will be smaller as I found a supplement that nonAAA research has addressed. It is recommended for heart and Arteries as it strengthens the connecting tissue. I figured the weak AAA walls would shrink a bit if they were strengthen like a weak saggy muscle pulls tight. So it either did or was a freak occurrence. A 9.3% reduction I read would be called significant. The supplement was Hartshorn Berry 565 mg from Swanson. This is not an add but not sure if the are all the same. I have a vascular surgeon meeting today to review the results and will ask for another 6 month follow up to see what happens.

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@JustinMcClanahan Yes. I did in 6 months. 1st ultrasound tested for AAA in April 2025 had a 3.83 x 3.39 lower non bulging aneurysm. Had a 6 month follow-up ultrasound had 2.56 x 3.38. In April I told my PCP the 6 month will be smaller as I found a supplement that nonAAA research has addressed. It is recommended for heart and Arteries as it strengthens the connecting tissue. I figured the weak AAA walls would shrink a bit if they were strengthen like a weak saggy muscle pulls tight. So it either did or was a freak occurrence. A 9.3% reduction I read would be called significant. The supplement was Hartshorn Berry 565 mg from Swanson. This is not an add but not sure if the are all the same. I have a vascular surgeon meeting today to review the results and will ask for another 6 month follow up to see what happens.

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@jjs2955 Hi Justin, I have been reading that Cayenne supplement will also strengthen arteries, etc. And I am taking Pycnogenol (French Maritine Pine Bark) that supports eye, joint and skin health and circulatory health.

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I think that is for inflammation that can help. The Hawthorne Berry actually strengthens the connecting tissues so the walls should be stronger against expansion. Don't think it will completly reduce it but a 10% is significant as the all say it will never shrink. 565 mg a day

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@jjs2955 Hi Justin, I have been reading that Cayenne supplement will also strengthen arteries, etc. And I am taking Pycnogenol (French Maritine Pine Bark) that supports eye, joint and skin health and circulatory health.

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@annieboo I did read low dose aspirin as well as lipitor have been shown to slow growth.

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