Can Coughing Increase Size and Risk of Aortic Anuerysm

Posted by mjm3 @mjm3, Jan 28 4:19pm

I am 67 years old with an ascending aortic aneurysm diagnosed last July at 4.1. I am scheduled for a six month CT angiogram next month to check for any growth – which I’m hoping there is none. However, over the last few weeks I’ve been battling a cold that turned into bronchitis that turned into mild pneumonia. Subsequently, I developed a cough that could be quite jarring at times. Late night googling found many different sources of contradictory information, but one stuck out that said “yes, coughing can be very dangerous for an ascending aortic aneurysm.” it did not specify how it was dangerous.
I have tried to contact my cardiologist twice about this and I must not be asking my question correctly because the nurse calls back with the reply that if I have questions about a cough, see my general practitioner. The GP said she’s not a cardiologist ask my cardiologist. It’s a vicious cycle. The urgent care doctor that prescribed antibiotics for the pneumonia had no idea about a cough correlating to a risk of aneurysm, but said to ask my cardiologist😵‍💫. Just wondering if anyone else had asked or spoken to their doctors about coughing, and if it causes the aneurysm to expand rapidly? I hope I don’t sound crazy, but I’m just really concerned about everything with this newly diagnosed issue. I want to be as safe as I can, but how do you prevent yourself from coughing when you’re sick. Cough medicine only goes so far. Thanks for any insight.

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Profile picture for james4cm @james4cm

I will write back here. I will be asking those questions of the primary care doctor this coming Monday, 2/3/25.

I'm certain I've already gained by finding this group, and I only found it today.

However, initially, my request was only to be referred to a cardiologist to ask the questions.

Health Insurance I'm with Kaiser Permanente apparently has protocols and procedures which require the primary physician to refer to a specialist.

We'll see if the primary physician has solid enough answers to satisfy me or not.

I'm thinking as well thought out the primary physician answers may be, I'm still going to stand my ground and ask to see a cardiologist to get that perspective.

Unless maybe if the doctor agrees to another echocardiogram in 6 months to one year vs. 2 to 3 years he's currently prescribing.

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@james4cm
I've had a few CT scans done. 1/20/25 and 9/17/25.

The good news out of it is at least there's NO change.

Ascending thoracic aortic aneurysm is still the same measurement 4.3 cm.

Another CT scan is scheduled one year out in September 2026.

Over the Summer of 2025
I hiked up Mt. Whitney 14,508 ft. elevation, six (6) times.

I Googled risks of high altitude hiking with an aortic aneurysm and it doesn't read well.

Cardiologist I'm seeing had a different opinion than my online research. Said good to go with the hiking to over 14 thousand foot elevation.

I felt fine on the hikes and being the CT scan after is the same as before the half a dozen times up Mt. Whitney looking like very thankfully my Cardiologist was correct.

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Im 67 w/ a 4.2 AAA. Been watching it yearly with an echocardiagram and cat scan 2x since discovery at age 60.
About cough. It is my understanding that severe coughing can be problematic. My pcp prescribed benzonatate 100mg for an extreme cough following pneumonia last year. And I used it again recently at the tail end a cold.

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Profile picture for pamela78 @pamela78

I find your experience very disturbing. I don't like it that different doctors just palm you off on someone else who then does the same thing. That seems irresponsible at best, cruel at worst. We're always told, "Listen to your doctor." But when the doctor doesn't respond or inform you of important stuff, it sort of reduces your confidence in them. We're all on our own, basically, and have to advocate for ourselves not acquiesce to insufficient treatment. Keep asking questions and demand/expect answers. My not-so-humble opinion. Cheers.

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@pamela78 hi I just read your response to the individual with cough concerns and I appreciate your response to that person as more than a “humble opinion” but more spot on as I’ve experienced the same seemingly indifference from my cardiologist who seems to be in a hurry to go turn another door knob as if my concern over a 4mm ascending aortic aneurysm was insignificant. At 70 y/o it frightens the shit out of me, so thanks for basically reassuring me that I wasn’t being overreacting to my cardiac concerns. Thank you! Robert

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Profile picture for moonboy @moonboy

I’m not a doctor and I’m not giving medical advice, but I am a 10-year survivor of a complete and sudden aortic dissection, and I’ve spent a lot of time learning about aortic disease, navigating the medical system, and advocating for my own care.

ONE: You should also be getting a referral to a thoracic aortic surgeon as soon as possible. Cardiologists and primary care doctors play a role in monitoring an aneurysm, but they don’t fix them—surgeons do. A thoracic aortic surgeon is the only specialist truly qualified to assess the long-term risks, determine the best monitoring plan, and decide when (or if) intervention is needed. Many cardiologists, even very good ones, simply don’t have the expertise in aortic pathology to fully evaluate what’s going on beyond the standard “watch and wait” approach. Surgeons, on the other hand, spend their careers seeing how these aneurysms behave over time, understanding the subtleties of surgical timing, and weighing the risk of waiting versus intervening. Personally, I would not trust anyone but a surgeon who specializes in aortic disease to tell me whether I need surgery, how often I should be scanned, or what my true level of risk is. You don’t need to be scheduling surgery tomorrow, but you do need to establish a relationship with the specialist who will be responsible for making those calls down the road.

A 4.1 cm ascending thoracic aortic aneurysm falls into that gray area where it’s technically “mild,” but still something that requires monitoring. The real question isn’t just the size—it’s what else is going on with the aorta. Growth rate, family history, connective tissue disorders, blood pressure control, and valve function all play a role in risk assessment.

TWO: You’re absolutely right to push for a cardiologist. Aneurysms aren’t primary care medicine, and it’s frustrating when you meet resistance just trying to get in the right hands. A primary care doctor saying, “See you in 2-3 years” might be reasonable for a completely stable, slow-growing aneurysm, but it’s not a sufficient plan without deeper evaluation—especially if this was only diagnosed a few months ago. I get scanned every 12 months at a world class heart care center with state of the art CT with contrast, University of Minnesota - Minneapolis.

When you talk to your doctor on Monday , you might want to emphasize:

a. You want an aortic specialist or a cardiologist experienced in aortic disease. Not all cardiologists focus on aortic pathology, and a general cardiologist may not have the expertise to assess your long-term risk.
b. You need to know the growth rate. Did they compare this to any prior scans? Was it previously smaller, or is this a new finding?
c. You want a clear monitoring plan. Ask why they think 2-3 years is an appropriate timeline and if more frequent imaging (every 6-12 months) is warranted given your age and aneurysm location.

THREE: Exercise and Elevation
Again, not medical advice, but elevation and exercise are common concerns with aortic aneurysms. Some things to ask your doctor:
a. Blood pressure response at high altitudes – The body compensates for lower oxygen levels at high elevation by increasing heart rate and blood pressure, which can stress the aortic wall.
b. Valsalva maneuvers – Anything that causes sudden spikes in blood pressure (heavy lifting, straining, intense isometric exercise) can be risky for an aneurysm.
c. Cardio limits – Many doctors recommend low-to-moderate intensity exercise rather than pushing into high-intensity zones. Hiking is often fine, but with precautions.
d. Medication adjustments – Some people with aneurysms are put on beta-blockers or other medications to reduce stress on the aorta, especially if they are active.

FOUR: Coughing and Aortic Disease
A strong, uncontrolled cough can spike intrathoracic pressure and cause strain on the aortic wall. If you ever develop a chronic cough, shortness of breath, or any weird chest sensations, it’s worth bringing up. Some people with aneurysms (especially near the arch) have symptoms that can get dismissed as “normal” but are actually the aorta compressing nearby structures.

If you’re not getting the answers you need, keep pushing. Many of us with aortic disease have had to advocate hard to get the right specialist. Aneurysms are serious, even when they’re considered “mild,” and getting ahead of the game now can make all the difference later. Peace.

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@moonboy this is some of the most constructive advice I have gotten. Thank you. I live in st.Paul and hoping you could give me the name and contact info for the cardiac surgeon you mentioned? I’m with Health Partners and I haven’t had consistent high quality advice from the doctors I have seem. I’m 85 yrs old and have quite a large thoracic aneurysm. I’ve been told that surgery would be risky at my age, and I believe that.

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My surgery was done emergently in La Jolla California in 2015 when I was 50 years old. I am now almost 61. My thoracic surgeon has since retired (Dr. Anthony Perricone). At 50, this emergency surgery was brutal to for me to survive. At 85, I think I would certainly get a second opinion from a Mayo doc or University of Minnesota Heart Care Center-Fairview doc. My understanding as a layperson is that aortic repair at age 85 carries substantially higher risk than at age 50 because the body’s resilience, organ reserve, and ability to recover from major surgery diminish with age. Older patients often have additional medical problems—such as coronary artery disease, kidney impairment, or lung disease—that increase the likelihood of complications like stroke, heart attack, renal failure, or prolonged recovery. Their connective tissues are also less elastic, which can complicate the surgical repair itself. At age 50, by contrast, the heart, kidneys, and lungs generally tolerate anesthesia and circulatory arrest far better. Healing is faster, and the long-term survival benefit of repair is much greater. All that said, I'd get a second opinion. Ask for a referral and let the second advise you. Peace.

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Profile picture for amaranth8 @amaranth8

Im 67 w/ a 4.2 AAA. Been watching it yearly with an echocardiagram and cat scan 2x since discovery at age 60.
About cough. It is my understanding that severe coughing can be problematic. My pcp prescribed benzonatate 100mg for an extreme cough following pneumonia last year. And I used it again recently at the tail end a cold.

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@amaranth8
Im 75 very soon and Ive always had such a Big cough..Ive often wondered about this bc if lifting isn't good my big coughing must be bad..Great question...

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Profile picture for llindsay251 @llindsay251

@jsolem ... thank you for the ChatGPT idea. I think it will help cut through all the myriad of conflicting ideas to at least come up with one consolidated one.
I am actively gleaning as much info as possible that pertains to my situation, from all the generous posters on this site, so I can move forward proactively and as stress free as poss!!
Currently, Oct 2025, I have only just found out through a surgeon repairing my hiatus hernia that I that i have an AA . So yet to see any specialists or have tests done, Consequently no clue how serious or not the situation is.
I love and appreciate your input @jsolem and I wish you many blessings while you are still with us and great peace when you take your journey home❣️

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@llindsay251
ChatGPT: That’s an excellent and very important question.

In general:
A short period of coughing from a cold is unlikely to cause a significant or permanent increase in the size of an ascending aortic aneurysm.

Here’s why and what to keep in mind:

🫁 What happens during coughing
• When you cough forcefully, your chest (thoracic) pressure temporarily rises.
• This briefly increases pressure inside the aorta (the main artery leaving the heart).
• These spikes are transient — they last only seconds — and in most people (even those with a mild aneurysm), they do not cause measurable dilation.

🫀 In the case of an aortic aneurysm
• The aorta in someone with an aneurysm is already weaker than normal, so persistent or severe strain can theoretically add stress.
• However, routine coughing from a cold or flu usually does not make an aneurysm enlarge.
• What can contribute to faster growth over time is chronically elevated blood pressure, smoking, or connective tissue disease (like Marfan or Ehlers-Danlos).

⚠️ When to be cautious
• If coughing is very forceful, prolonged (weeks), and causes chest or back pain, or if you experience sudden pain, shortness of breath, dizziness, or a tearing sensation, that’s an emergency — those could signal an aortic complication.
• For someone with a known ascending aortic aneurysm, keeping blood pressure well controlled during illness (and avoiding unnecessary strain) is key.

✅ Practical steps
• Treat the cough early (humidifier, cough suppressants, hydration).
• Monitor your blood pressure.
• Keep up with regular imaging (CT or echo) as your doctor recommends to track the aneurysm’s size.

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Profile picture for moonboy @moonboy

I’m not a doctor and I’m not giving medical advice, but I am a 10-year survivor of a complete and sudden aortic dissection, and I’ve spent a lot of time learning about aortic disease, navigating the medical system, and advocating for my own care.

ONE: You should also be getting a referral to a thoracic aortic surgeon as soon as possible. Cardiologists and primary care doctors play a role in monitoring an aneurysm, but they don’t fix them—surgeons do. A thoracic aortic surgeon is the only specialist truly qualified to assess the long-term risks, determine the best monitoring plan, and decide when (or if) intervention is needed. Many cardiologists, even very good ones, simply don’t have the expertise in aortic pathology to fully evaluate what’s going on beyond the standard “watch and wait” approach. Surgeons, on the other hand, spend their careers seeing how these aneurysms behave over time, understanding the subtleties of surgical timing, and weighing the risk of waiting versus intervening. Personally, I would not trust anyone but a surgeon who specializes in aortic disease to tell me whether I need surgery, how often I should be scanned, or what my true level of risk is. You don’t need to be scheduling surgery tomorrow, but you do need to establish a relationship with the specialist who will be responsible for making those calls down the road.

A 4.1 cm ascending thoracic aortic aneurysm falls into that gray area where it’s technically “mild,” but still something that requires monitoring. The real question isn’t just the size—it’s what else is going on with the aorta. Growth rate, family history, connective tissue disorders, blood pressure control, and valve function all play a role in risk assessment.

TWO: You’re absolutely right to push for a cardiologist. Aneurysms aren’t primary care medicine, and it’s frustrating when you meet resistance just trying to get in the right hands. A primary care doctor saying, “See you in 2-3 years” might be reasonable for a completely stable, slow-growing aneurysm, but it’s not a sufficient plan without deeper evaluation—especially if this was only diagnosed a few months ago. I get scanned every 12 months at a world class heart care center with state of the art CT with contrast, University of Minnesota - Minneapolis.

When you talk to your doctor on Monday , you might want to emphasize:

a. You want an aortic specialist or a cardiologist experienced in aortic disease. Not all cardiologists focus on aortic pathology, and a general cardiologist may not have the expertise to assess your long-term risk.
b. You need to know the growth rate. Did they compare this to any prior scans? Was it previously smaller, or is this a new finding?
c. You want a clear monitoring plan. Ask why they think 2-3 years is an appropriate timeline and if more frequent imaging (every 6-12 months) is warranted given your age and aneurysm location.

THREE: Exercise and Elevation
Again, not medical advice, but elevation and exercise are common concerns with aortic aneurysms. Some things to ask your doctor:
a. Blood pressure response at high altitudes – The body compensates for lower oxygen levels at high elevation by increasing heart rate and blood pressure, which can stress the aortic wall.
b. Valsalva maneuvers – Anything that causes sudden spikes in blood pressure (heavy lifting, straining, intense isometric exercise) can be risky for an aneurysm.
c. Cardio limits – Many doctors recommend low-to-moderate intensity exercise rather than pushing into high-intensity zones. Hiking is often fine, but with precautions.
d. Medication adjustments – Some people with aneurysms are put on beta-blockers or other medications to reduce stress on the aorta, especially if they are active.

FOUR: Coughing and Aortic Disease
A strong, uncontrolled cough can spike intrathoracic pressure and cause strain on the aortic wall. If you ever develop a chronic cough, shortness of breath, or any weird chest sensations, it’s worth bringing up. Some people with aneurysms (especially near the arch) have symptoms that can get dismissed as “normal” but are actually the aorta compressing nearby structures.

If you’re not getting the answers you need, keep pushing. Many of us with aortic disease have had to advocate hard to get the right specialist. Aneurysms are serious, even when they’re considered “mild,” and getting ahead of the game now can make all the difference later. Peace.

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@moonboy ..TY for this information..I was seeing a vascular Dr & bc I do have COPD, I have regular CTs done w/o contrast..I was 1 cm now after 4yrs its a , 3 so is with contrast, that important to read the correct sizes ?

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@moonboy this is some of the most constructive advice I have gotten. Thank you. I live in st.Paul and hoping you could give me the name and contact info for the cardiac surgeon you mentioned? I’m with Health Partners and I haven’t had consistent high quality advice from the doctors I have seem. I’m 85 yrs old and have quite a large thoracic aneurysm. I’ve been told that surgery would be risky at my age, and I believe that.

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@absma What about a stent? Is that possible for you?

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