Small Intestine Bacteria Overgrowth (SIBO)

Posted by jacque6977 @jacque6977, Feb 22, 2017

My wife, after years of suffering from debilitating nausea and fatigue, has finally been diagnosed with SIBO as confirmed by a hydrogen breath test. It is estimated the bacteria has had at least two years to grow and may be well established. She has started on Xifaxan, at $35 per pill, but it is estimated that elimination of the SIBO may take up to six months. Her day now starts with her waking up with nausea and when she has a cup of tea and toast in the morning she gets sick within fifteen minutes thereafter. Her sickness is accompanied by violent belching, and at times she regurgitates liquid vile. The only drug she has for nausea is Zofran which does nothing for her. Are there any other SIBO sufferers that are experiencing the same symptoms, and what are you taking to reduce the nausea?

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I have also had sibo for 2 years and a right colectomy due to a blockage. I take alka seltzer for nausea, then walk or move around for 5 min or do. Lots of belching but nausea is gone.

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A few ideas here - seems like this could be caused, at least in part, by too many antibiotics. This would also include those in meat, which are often given to animals. Try kefir and yogurt, keeping the sugar as low as possible for starters. Get a probiotic, but not just any - full spectrum, esp. with L. Plantarum. $35 a pill adds up fast.

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@maryannegau

<p>I've been battle SIBO for months now and have tried Rifaxin, Flagyl and antiviral meds. Also have tried Zithromax and am taking Atrantil (an herbal remedy). I can't eat sugar or carbs or my stomach hurts quite alot. Any suggestions?</p>

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I am new to this forum. After two months of suffering from diarrhea, loose stools, gas and bloating and trying my best to reverse the symptoms through natural means, I was finally able to get in to see a GI doctor who diagnosed me with SIBO through symptoms alone (no breath test). He prescribed a two week course of Flagyl and Align probiotic plus a low FODMAP diet. All this is news to me and I am now scrambling to find answers. I think my problem originated from two rounds of antibiotics I took earlier this year when I underwent a tooth implant and subsequently when I took a round of Clindimycin for a UTI. Rifaximin was prescribed before the Flagyl, but I could not tolerate it (gave me horrible diarrhea ). I have read so much about SIBO during the past five days and feel so confused. Any insight is appreciated. Another question I had for the group is whether anyone has used the probiotic S Boulardi for this condition and has it helped? I am looking for information, support and answers. Thank you for “listening.”

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Please know that nausea is listed as the number one side effect of many of the antibiotics prescribed for sibo. I just read an article titled "Herbal Therapy Is Equivalent to Rifaximin for the Treatment of Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth" published in the Natl Library of Medicine on line. It suggests herbal OTC compounds (they identify which ones they used in the study) may work as well or better for some people in eliminating SIBO. The herbal compounds used in this study are available online. I just ordered 2 of them and will report what results I get. I haven't taken the breath test because I just learned about it 2 days ago and also just read that it is now thought by many docs that SIBO goes undiagnosed in diverticulitis patients. Also, I am pretty sure my small intestine is compromised in some way and I am looking for healthful ways of strengthening/healing it for good.... In the past 8 months I have had my first 2 digestive "attacks". The first flare-up/attack lasted 4 months. It was diagnosed as "possible" diverticulitis - maybe with a fistula, even though 4 catscans, 4 blood and urine tests, cystoscopy, colonoscopy, 2 trips to the ER (severe pain, nausea, bloating), and visits to internist, gyno, urologist, and gastro docs found nothing but trace amounts of blood in urine every time. (None of the docs mentioned SIBO possibility.) I was put on cipro/flagyl for 2 weeks on, then 2 weeks off, then 2 weeks on. The entire time - severe pain (the nausea for me went away). I lost 15 lbs in 6 weeks because couldn't eat anything but clear broth - 1/2 cup at a time. Then I started researching the web. Got some powerful probiotics and started taking 50 billion cfus 4x/da, continued my liquid diet adding protein drink for calories - again 1/2 cup at a time. 4 weeks after I took myself off cipro/flagyl, and with the probiotics and herbal anti-inflammatories (zyflamend, turmeric, oregano oil), I was started to eat solid food though still small quantities (max 1 cup/meal). Thru this and even now I continue to drink a minimum 8 glasses of water/clear broth every day. Now here's the real surprise to me - with the 2nd attack - after just hours of the strange intermittent pain and nausea starting, I returned to liquid diet immediately (still with probiotics and anti-inflammatories), started taking daily stool softener (sloooow painful bowel movements had been a part of the first attack) and cleared my system of all solids. It took 5 days. There was a 4 hours WW3 in my belly on the 2nd nite of the 5, along with nausea, vomiting, severe bloating and so much pain) - but very short compared to the 4 months of agony I had experienced the first time. It's day 5 - no pain! No antibiotics! No ER trips (although I almost gave in during the 4 hour session). No anxiety! I will do one more day of clear liquids adding protein drink. When I'm sure this has passed, I will start slow high-protein calorie loading (lost 3 pounds), walking 3 miles a day and restorative yoga 2x/week. I have resolved that if I get another "flare up", I will do the home breath test asap. Hoping that the herbal therapy will clear out any residual bad gut stuff and there will be no more flare ups. Good luck to all with SIBO. May you find lasting effective treatments.

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@annierose

I have also had sibo for 2 years and a right colectomy due to a blockage. I take alka seltzer for nausea, then walk or move around for 5 min or do. Lots of belching but nausea is gone.

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@annierose Ginger is also a great natural anti-nausea food/spice. I get the shaved pink ginger you find in little plastic cups at the sushi counter in grocery stores. Just sucking on one shaving and slooowly taking little bites and chewing them really well works for me.

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@cherusa

Please know that nausea is listed as the number one side effect of many of the antibiotics prescribed for sibo. I just read an article titled "Herbal Therapy Is Equivalent to Rifaximin for the Treatment of Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth" published in the Natl Library of Medicine on line. It suggests herbal OTC compounds (they identify which ones they used in the study) may work as well or better for some people in eliminating SIBO. The herbal compounds used in this study are available online. I just ordered 2 of them and will report what results I get. I haven't taken the breath test because I just learned about it 2 days ago and also just read that it is now thought by many docs that SIBO goes undiagnosed in diverticulitis patients. Also, I am pretty sure my small intestine is compromised in some way and I am looking for healthful ways of strengthening/healing it for good.... In the past 8 months I have had my first 2 digestive "attacks". The first flare-up/attack lasted 4 months. It was diagnosed as "possible" diverticulitis - maybe with a fistula, even though 4 catscans, 4 blood and urine tests, cystoscopy, colonoscopy, 2 trips to the ER (severe pain, nausea, bloating), and visits to internist, gyno, urologist, and gastro docs found nothing but trace amounts of blood in urine every time. (None of the docs mentioned SIBO possibility.) I was put on cipro/flagyl for 2 weeks on, then 2 weeks off, then 2 weeks on. The entire time - severe pain (the nausea for me went away). I lost 15 lbs in 6 weeks because couldn't eat anything but clear broth - 1/2 cup at a time. Then I started researching the web. Got some powerful probiotics and started taking 50 billion cfus 4x/da, continued my liquid diet adding protein drink for calories - again 1/2 cup at a time. 4 weeks after I took myself off cipro/flagyl, and with the probiotics and herbal anti-inflammatories (zyflamend, turmeric, oregano oil), I was started to eat solid food though still small quantities (max 1 cup/meal). Thru this and even now I continue to drink a minimum 8 glasses of water/clear broth every day. Now here's the real surprise to me - with the 2nd attack - after just hours of the strange intermittent pain and nausea starting, I returned to liquid diet immediately (still with probiotics and anti-inflammatories), started taking daily stool softener (sloooow painful bowel movements had been a part of the first attack) and cleared my system of all solids. It took 5 days. There was a 4 hours WW3 in my belly on the 2nd nite of the 5, along with nausea, vomiting, severe bloating and so much pain) - but very short compared to the 4 months of agony I had experienced the first time. It's day 5 - no pain! No antibiotics! No ER trips (although I almost gave in during the 4 hour session). No anxiety! I will do one more day of clear liquids adding protein drink. When I'm sure this has passed, I will start slow high-protein calorie loading (lost 3 pounds), walking 3 miles a day and restorative yoga 2x/week. I have resolved that if I get another "flare up", I will do the home breath test asap. Hoping that the herbal therapy will clear out any residual bad gut stuff and there will be no more flare ups. Good luck to all with SIBO. May you find lasting effective treatments.

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Hi @cherusa, I know as a new member, you're not able to post links yet. We do this to prevent spammers from posting unwanted commercial posts. I reviewed the link you wished to post and it is not spam. Thank you for providing evidence-based contributions to Connect.

Here is the study that Cherusa wished to post:
- Herbal Therapy Is Equivalent to Rifaximin for the Treatment of Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4030608/

In fact, the lead author of this study is Dr. Chedid, a physician at Mayo Clinic in the Department of Internal Medicine, Division of Gastroenterology & Hepatology, Mayo Clinic Rochester.

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Try pure ginger for the nausea.

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I take two ginger supplements every morning and Ginger Tummy Drops have helped me.

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@jfevurly9

I take two ginger supplements every morning and Ginger Tummy Drops have helped me.

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Ginger is the best!!

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Ginger is a life saver. Also very helpful are nausea bands for motion sickness. They go on wrists with a pressure point to fight nausea.

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