Lipo-Flavonoid for ringing in ears

Posted by peggyn @peggyn, Jun 28, 2019

Hello, I'm new hear, but am on some of the other groups. I have had this ringing in my ears for several weeks, sort of like crickets,.. Someone in one of the groups said they took lipo Flavonoid for this and It helped. them..I that time I didn't need it.., Has anyone here ever tried it and if so did it help.. What have you tried that helped.??

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Unfortunately, the pharmaceuticals learn off of us when a drug does not work with all of it's side effects including the tinnitus, vertigo and other vestibular manifestations like you exhibited. One reason they took it off of the market for bad marketing, too many side effects and outcomes of the drug use and perhaps evidence of poor trials before allowing it to be used before giving out to the public.
Money is always involved along with competition among the big pharmaceutical companies. The FDA has some say in who can put any drug out on the market and when, so if there is any iffy on any medicine, they may say NO but sometimes pressure is put on to allow a temporary trial for use to see if it may work. We don't always know if this is going on behind the scenes except for when the drug/medicine is prescribed to us and we use it. When the reporting comes in of severe side effects from physicians and reporting to SIDE EFFECTS of pharmaceutical websites come crashing in - then the drug is pulled off of the market and is no longer available to the public. Further investigation is done on that particular drug to see why it caused the side effects by the FDA. Records are kept of deaths, and disabilities and the like by the CDC, FDA and other government organizations. We are not privy to those records. BUT we suffer the consequences of their mistakes. Especially when they do not consider that most of the drugs/medicines on the market today cause tinnitus/vertigo/ hearing loss/vestibular injury of some kind/ and other brain injuries. Just look in any drug book and check out any medicine's side effect. Where the drug comes from also tells you if it is pure or if it has heavy metals added to it or other unnecessary ingredients to 'make it work' better for you. [or to kill you] Always question first, what is the medicine - class of drug - what will it do for me - for how long - will it interact with my other drugs/medicines that I take right now, including the OTCs - what are the side effects - and will it make my current symptoms worse? These are good questions for your pharmacist to answer since the prescribing MD will not understand who to answer these questions. Always trust your pharmacist .... I do because he knows me and defends me from actions taken by my many specialists.

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Tinnitus in research studies right now comes from a number of different parts of your brain. It represents damage to your brain. You can not correct or cure this "phantom noise" with anything that is found on the market. The origin of your noise in the head likely comes from the limbic portion of your brain and can intensify when you think about it because this part of the brain controls your emotions and other subjective activities. Damaged hair cells in your cochlear/auditory nerve system are not able to connect correctly with the brain interpretation for sound and this becomes the noise in your ears or head. With you brain constantly working and your ears constantly hearing...there is NO off switch to both systems, so you can tell either of them to turn off the noise. Scientists are looking at the areas of damage to figure out how to turn off the spigot somewhere in the brain where the source is coming from. They have not been able to find where the various places are located since there are more than one locations.
In the mean time, we as tinnitus sufferers, must understand what precipitated our first encounter with it. How did it start. Hearing loss? Head injury? Ototoxic medications? Middle ear tumor? Infections? War injuries?
Next: Have we seen a Medical doctor/Audiologist/ENT about this medical condition? Have we identified all of the various symptoms that could or may be associated with this condition? [Vestibular - inner ear/brain location such as vertigo, dizziness, falls, hyperacusis, headaches, Menieres disease, and others]
Testing: Were any tests conducted regarding your hearing, brain, equilibrium? Besides your basic well being...
What recommendations were given you? OTC samples or magazine promos are NOT regulated or approved for tinnitus. Hearing aids with masking programs work, Sound devices that mask the noise also help, Biofeedback to train the brain to hear white, brown, pink or other color - toned noises allow the tinnitus wearer to listen to sounds that over ride their own screeches. There is a dedicated American Tinnitus website I recommend that you should start with: https://www.ata.org/understanding-facts and then check out the Institutes https://medlineplus.gov/tinnitus.html and https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/14164-tinnitus where Research is constantly taking place. https://hearinghealthfoundation.org/what-is-tinnitus
Check these all out and I am sure you will have ample information to help you. My tinnitus started in 1990s with ototoxic meds to save my life. I will have this until I die. I manage the two tones with my Starky AI Evolv hearing aids which does a marvelous job of masking them. Any questions - let me know Eloise

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I have been suffering with tinnitus for several years now . And I also have a vibration in the lower portion of my spine. What I have recently realized is that the vibration of the lower spine gets a lot worse depending upon what I eat. For instance, sugar and white flour (which is contained in foods that I enjoy the most) or any high carb meal of any sort will cause the vibration in my spine to get intense AND "likewise, so does my tinnitus get much louder. I'm also realizing that it isn't just sugar and white flour that intensifies the tinnitus and lower spine vibration. A glass of wine will do the same and too much sugar in any form (fruit for example) can also cause the vibrations and tinnitus to get worse. My blood sugar tests fall within the normal range so I am now awaiting an appointment with a highly recommended neurologist with the hope that he will have some answers for me...because these two symptoms are really life altering for me...and so far the only thing helping me is gabapentin which eliminates the vibration of the spine but doesn't seem to help the tinnitus...I have also read that various medications...can... as a side affect cause tinnitus..

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Vibrations of the spine is a new symptom to me - I have not heard of that one. May be a neurological manifestation that may be associated with more than just your vestibular system. Perhaps an ENT evaluation may be in your future if you have more hearing issues. Tinnitus is a mysterious symptom that all scientist do not know how to approach since it is a subjective rather than an objective symptom. The patient knows it's there but the physician/scientist can't see it or hear it. It's a phantom symptom as a result of some type of injury to the brain as a result of any number of different type of injuries from A-Z. Each person exhibits different types of tinnitus and tell the physician what they are hearing.
Yes - what we eat will influence it as well as how we move since our brain controls much of what we do to live. We can not do much without our brains. Sleep, walk, eat, move, think, everything that interacts with our brain, including our gut influences how our brain. Noise, quiet, movement, standing still...all the walks of life will affect how , what, why and how we feel.
Medications are sneaky since they can fool our brains into either making us well and then not allowing us to ever getting off of the med, or they cause us to get very sick with disturbing side effects. Tinnitus, can not be treated with medications they have found since the innerworkings in the brain is broken and can't be fixed. All we can do is learn to deal with it and work around it by avoiding things that aggravate it. Avoid loud noises, all the 'white stuff', avoid excessive use of antibiotics, in other words, if you find that there is a trigger, stop it and find an alternative. Learn to live with it until they find something that will less the buzz Eloise

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