Pari eRapid/eFlow first impressions

Posted by bronchiectasaurus @bronchiectasaurus, 5 days ago

Wow. Salty!

I washed and sterilized all the parts last night per instructions, and just had my first session. It is indeed rapid! A big hit of salt (7% solution, 4ml vial) with every breath.

It's not breath-actuated, unlike the AeroEclipseXL I'm accustomed to, so salt mist blew everywhere when I exhaled. I soon manually de-activated it while exhaling, using the power button, and re-activated on inhale. I was near my computer and didn't want salt to get all over my electronics. (Next time I'll try it in my kitchen or living room.) Even with the starts and stops, the session was very fast, under 10 minutes. I will time my next one.

My young cat jumped on me while I was nebbing, disconnecting the cord from the cup. Nothing leaked and I reattached it easily. Clearly I need to find a new location to use this system. It's faster so I don't need to be seated or distract myself with online scrabble, as I do with my usual system.

The concentrated salt made me cough at first, but I got the hang of it by the end. It brought up a lot more mucus than usual! All clear, all good. My usual neb sessions have brought up hardly anything lately, so I found this refreshing.

Afterwards I rinsed the parts and soaked in soapy water per instructions. Question: If I boil after every use, do I have to soak in soapy water first? I skip that step with my AeroEclipse/Aerobika setup and just rinse and boil.
(For anyone curious, this is how I have been nebbing/cleaning for the past several months: https://youtu.be/gRUAIu1nO1w?si=fRSz6DvohTN4SXKw )

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Out of curiosity: have you used the (optional) "EasyCare" device to clean the aerosol heads?

If the soap soak is to keep the aerosol heads clog-free, I might skip that and just rinse-boil/sterilize and use the EasyCare every couple days, or even every day. I add distilled water, turn it on, walk away for a few minutes and when I come back it's done. Then I put the cleaned head and the EasyCare in my bottle dryer and walk away again.

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I would call Pari before I skipped the soap step, unlike water alone, it actually breaks the surface tension that holds substances on the parts - I know they are microscopic but my experience with previous mesh nebulizers from Philips taught me it takes very little to mess them up (that is why Philips quit making them.)

I used the pause button tonight for the first time - that was helpful too.

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I would call Pari before I skipped the soap step, unlike water alone, it actually breaks the surface tension that holds substances on the parts - I know they are microscopic but my experience with previous mesh nebulizers from Philips taught me it takes very little to mess them up (that is why Philips quit making them.)

I used the pause button tonight for the first time - that was helpful too.

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Thanks, understood.

Maybe I could get away with just soaking the aerosol heads in soapy water instead of everything, then boiling everything. Would require a much smaller soaking container and less double rinsing.

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My technique continues to improve, insofar as I'm hardly ever setting off the air purifier now, getting very agile with the pause button, and acclimating to the intensity of the saline so I usually only cough on the first breath.

I have been only nebbing once per day recently but today I did a second session because I went to a movie and had to take my mask off because laughing kept fogging up my glasses (it was the new Naked Gun, highly recommend). I didn't finish the whole second vial; I stopped after about 6 minutes, while a full 4ml vial takes about 12 minutes using my technique of pausing flow on the exhales, and holding my breath a few seconds after the inhales, and stopping to spit out mucus and drink water occasionally.

This device has given me back an hour a day. Worth every penny.

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I still cough a lot while nebulizing 7% NACl. I tried sue’s method with the tongue which helps a little. I am still not good but getting better. It’s speed is such time saver.

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I am using my new eRapid and absolutely loving it! It only takes five minutes and is completely silent. Game-changer! Even though it leaves one ml of 7% behind, it clearly aerosols deeper which leads to better productivity for me. The mouthpiece is interchangeable with my LC sprint so that’s good to know. Curious if it can be hooked up to the Aerobika, but haven’t tried that yet.
There is an excellent video on using it and what each part does. It explains that the blue gasket serves as an expiratory function, with valves on each side that stop the incoming flow of medicine when you’re exhaling, so you’re not wasting too much medicine. The expiratory valve on the mouthpiece allows your exhale to exit. It seems to be appropriately and efficiently set up to help restrict the flow while exhaling to save the medicine. I seem to be getting enough as I am more productive than I was with any other equipment. The video is very informative about a few things, so was worth the watch.
https://share.google/UZA0vnOFN0O9Sl6rr

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