Relationship between bronchiectasis and cystic fibrosis

Posted by lenorj @lenorj, Mar 25 8:26am

I recently was tested for cystic fibrosis as part of the on going treatment of . bronchiectasis. The test came back with out a definitive answer but the numbers did show that I was not in negative territory either! I am wondering if anyone on the forum has any experience with this and does the results change treatment options?

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Wonder what kind of CF test involved numbers? Was that a skin test? Usually the genetic test is the only way to know for sure. If you are positive then the new drug that people with CF take has made a HUGE difference for them. If only Non Cystic Fibrosis Bronchiectasis had something like it! I have also read that new genetic variants are being discovered all the time for CF.

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@irenea8 you may have answered this for yourself already but the sweat test results report numerically.

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@ckscoville @sueinmn
Thanks for the response @ckscoville
It is a very expensive medication. I wonder though if the same mechanism in the drug that allows it to be called a regulator, allowing mucus to be expelled naturally, could be helpful for those where mucus clearance is challenging.

I use postural drainage a lot. If I’m ever in a position where I can’t do this in the future, I think I’d be more prone to infection and a decline in health. Many of us would be.

I suppose there aren’t enough of us to warrant the cost of a new drug that could help with mucus clearance rather than having to position oneself and huff cough with such force. How do people do that with broken ribs? That said, the numbers of BE patients being diagnosed around the world is increasing.

Would there not be other people in circumstances or with illnesses who would benefit though from a targeted medication in addition to Bronchiectasis patients?

I’m still wondering if this particular medication might work even on a short term basis to prevent mucus build up, infection and progression of disease for BE patients, especially if circumstances prevent regular airway clearance. Thanks.

I wonder if one of the BE specialists might have an answer.

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I have found drinking warm water with honey in it helps me cough up secretions as I understand it is a natural expectorant and helps a lot.

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I was also tested and was found to be right on the margin line. But my treatment stayed the same.

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In my case the diagnosis of CF (after genetic testing) definitely changed treatment options. It was determined that I am eligible for treatment with a very expensive CF drug called Trikafta, and that drug has been a real life-saver for me. My constant coughing and struggles with mucus have almost disappeared. In an odd way, my CF diagnosis has improved my life and my outlook considerably -- at least my daily struggles with lung disease.

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Hi @ckscoville, I have BE/NTM and also recently had genetic testing that revealed a positive mutant CF variant gene. I'm about to start taking Trikafta. I'm eager for any benefits but I'm interested to know what side effects you've experienced so far. Thanks.

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I haven't experience any significant side-effects from Trikafta in the four years I've been taking it. You've probably been warned already about the "purging" that you will experience during the first few days on the drug ...expelling a LOT of mucus from your lungs! My bloodwork also indicates macrocytic anemia, which has worsened since I started Trikafta, but I don't know if that's simply coincidental or a side-effect of the drug; nobody has been very concerned about it. I hope the Trikafta gives you some relief; it certainly did for me. Before starting it, I couldn't lie down to go to sleep at night without first going through a 30-minute coughing fit. Now I rarely have any coughing, day or night!

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I had NTM in 2002 - 18 months of antibiotics / macrolids & I am now neg. But I did develop bronchiectasis over time. I carry the C/F gene. My oldest brother had C/F. The doctor told me that this could've been a contributing cause, but not THE cause it may also be the a contributing reason for the presentation and progression in my lungs. I don't know that science has this perfectly pin pointed yet. And of course C/F presents with liver and pancreas involvement, which I do not have. But I personally have not heard of someone who has had a C/F test that came back borderline. Perhaps someone at NJH would have that answer.

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Yes, I have Bronchiectasis and had a genetic test at Mayo that was positive for one CF gene. I had sweat chloride test at NJH that was positive for CF. I am a 72 year old woman - surprise! I also am immune deficient and have CLL. Weekly immunoglobulin infusions (at home) and airway clearance have helped tremendously.

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Yes, I have Bronchiectasis and had a genetic test at Mayo that was positive for one CF gene. I had sweat chloride test at NJH that was positive for CF. I am a 72 year old woman - surprise! I also am immune deficient and have CLL. Weekly immunoglobulin infusions (at home) and airway clearance have helped tremendously.

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Doctors said the CLL treatment (Obinutuzumab and Venclexta) lowered my immunity and ‘uncovered’ the CF and the lung infections that led to Bronchiectasis. No MAC.
I had to stop CLL treatment.

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I haven't experience any significant side-effects from Trikafta in the four years I've been taking it. You've probably been warned already about the "purging" that you will experience during the first few days on the drug ...expelling a LOT of mucus from your lungs! My bloodwork also indicates macrocytic anemia, which has worsened since I started Trikafta, but I don't know if that's simply coincidental or a side-effect of the drug; nobody has been very concerned about it. I hope the Trikafta gives you some relief; it certainly did for me. Before starting it, I couldn't lie down to go to sleep at night without first going through a 30-minute coughing fit. Now I rarely have any coughing, day or night!

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Thank you for your response. I'm glad to hear haven't had any significant side effects on the Trikafta. And, thanks for the heads-up on the "purging". I had not heard of that. I'm hopeful and eager to get started!

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