Did medication help in Vascular Dementia
Hi, my mother in law who is 77 years old was recently diagnosed with vascular dementia. The doctor started her on Memantine (Namenda) about 3 weeks ago. He says Aricept would cause more side effects. Since she has been on Memantine, I feel that her symptoms have gotten worse. Before starting this medication, she was able to do her day-to-day things, but since she started this medication, we have noticed confusion, sedation, and a general feeling of being miserable. She does not seem like her normal self. We are reevaluating whether this medication is worth it to continue as we don’t want to compromise on her quality of life. She doesn’t want get out of the bed at all and wants to sleep all day. She feels helpless and even more depressed. Before starting this medication, she use to move around more and do her routine things.
I spoke to the doctor and he suggests that we finish the titration pack and then we will reassess. She is currently at 15mg per day and by next week will be on the 20mg max per day. I’m contemplating if I should contact the doctor again about discontinuing this medication as increasing it more might make her symptoms worse than they already are.
Please advise of anyone has gone through a similar experience. Do the symptoms get better? Should we continue? Or if this is how it will continue to be then shall we discontinue now?
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Very good point. I got into this thread by accident trying to go to mild cognitive deficit, but Factor V leapt out at me. Please know that for any kind of serious eye surgery patients on Xarelto or any of the other neo drugs she would need be off medication for ten days, not two days as is the standard. I learned this the hard way at 78. Had a small shunt for glaucoma inserted after being told to be off my 20 mg two days by two hematologists and staying off four just because I was nervous about it - had an eye wall collapse on the day I was going back for my big checkup. Got injections to inflate the eye again and a couple of other cleanup surgical procedures but the optic nerve was hopelessly damaged. It turns out Factor V makes an extremely hard clot. As far as I know, this still isn't written down anywhere and it happened to me 7 years ago. The retina specialist called in explained that a lot of older patients get prescribed these "new" meds which play havoc with the teeny weak blood vessels in the eye and in combination with Factor V it's especially serious. I hope it never applies to your wife.
Bunzman, I totally agree with changing docs. I changed my wife's MD because all he did was ask her "how are you doing?" draw her a picture then get up and leave. Her new doc is a lot better with the exam.
Well I looked and looked. Anytime anyone asks for anything I've found that helps I try to respond. So I finally found the Genetic workup I had done on myself. It's great and gives drug interactions on drugs a person is currently taking. You send them the drugs you are taking and it gives a full work up of Expected response, or just informative about the drug or recommends actionable, different names the drug may be found under, Geno types, dreg side effects for the persons Genetic makeup, drugs that will work best, Clinical consequences, dosing for that persons Genetic makeup( it always seemed strange how the dose would be the same for everybody) And IT"S NOT! It tells how the drugs can actually have different interactions than the doctor or pharmacy may tell us because they don't have our Genetic makeup.
I did mine before ny wife's White Matter Disease appeared. So my daughter had one done on my wife that is more medically and genetically detailed. However, I have to search for the meanings of all the symbols and Gene numbers, names on mine and my daughter has to help me with my wife's. They are very technical, like "Will interact adversely with CYP1A2". I mean what the heck does that mean? Do I have CYP1A2? I have to go back and see if I have that gene. What gene is that? So I have to research all the clinical terms but it's worth it.
Mine is fine and very thorough. It's 22 small print pages long. It does give a one page gene reaction summary card you can cut otu and take with you and the doctors, sometimes, know what they mean and can adjust dosage or a different drug, etc. For example, my wife has Factor V blood disorder but needs Warafin. However, with her Genetic makeup she this report said she can have an "Intermediate Warafin Sensitivity". So instead of 20mg everyday that she was taking, it was adjusted to just 10mg on Tuesdays and Thursday. Did it make a difference? I don't know but we can't see what's happening in their body until the reaction manifests outside the body and then it may be too late!
We adjusted the Warafin like the doctor suggested after seeing the Genetic workup and haven't any problems. Beware! The doctors will be very intimidated by a patient who comes in with all the information that is way over their head most of the time and they will also start thinking MALPRACTICE if they do or don't consider what you show or tell them but you have the info at home and you will know what works and the warnings. I have never shown it to a doctor but just in general say, "We"( not I, there's safety in numbers) so "WE" had a genetic testing done on her and helped identify that tylenol works better than Ibuprophen so we want to see what the Genetics of this new drug/drug she's on say about her taking it. "We're not questioning you but the more information we can get the better her chances are this drug will help. We just want to cover every base" Or just get the script filled and check it when you get home against the Genetic Testing Report.
Now the real info you wanted : I got mine from highlineLABS (spelled just like that, upper and lowercase).5900 Northwoods Business Parkway, Suite K, Charlotte NC.,28269 http://highline1.com There is no phone number on the report but it lists the Lab Director as James Fuller, PHD, DABCC, QCA. It wasn't ordered by my PCP but a doctor he referred me to for possible medication interactions. I see on the back she gives reasons for test request. I don't know if that is required but I wouldn't think so. Mine cost $300.00 in 2018. My wife's was $500.00 in 2021 but was from a different Lab and much much more in detail. Mine does have recommendations but they are general kind of suggestions, like may want to consider or possible so in so. Over the years it has been well worth the money because your genes don't change, so the report is good for ever. (80% of it you will not use because it goes into every drug you can think of and how it would work with you even if you don't take it now. Let us know how it goes!
At our last meeting with the GP, I brought up the potential for statins to cause mental confusion and the GP agreed to a trial without the statins for six weeks. One immediate result was an end to unexplained episodes of hives. I have to be careful not to see what I want to see. That said, my husband does seem much more normal than when he was on the statin. Did you experience any resistance from doctors about going off statins? I'm concerned our doctor is a big fan. I will note the rapatha injection and Nexlizet pill to bring up at our next appointment. Are you aware of any other options? We are also experimenting with some supplements, such as Vitamin B. Thanks.
Vitamine B in larger doses does help some. Statins are like a kneejerk reaction to vascular and heart concerns. It was our lifelong friend and GP who suggested the statins and a urinary med could be a contributor to confusion. Whrn I brought this up with cardiologist he said, no problem, there are now lots of other meds to take and younger doctors seem to be more aware of tge alternatives to statins. He asked if we wanted a pill or shot and my husband chose the pill and I chose Rapatha. Both are expensive but Rapatha has grants to subsidize the cost after insurance (speak to Walgreen’s specislty pharmacy). Nexlizet is also expensive but with the grant and insurance and new medicare law on $2,000 annual prescription max, either is bareable. No side effects from either so far. I think there may be other meds too but we are happy with these.
I doubt the hives had anything to do with the hives but I have gotten hives from sulpher meds.
I mean statins did’t have anything to do with hives
Thank you so much for your very detailed response! This is very helpful and I will look into it.
Yes, I agree that doctors hate informed patients and caregivers. They just want to get the money for appointments/procedures, write scripts, and send you on your way. Those who used to say "your such a great advocate" are not as happy when I'm advocating for her and questioning them.
It took a lot of calls but I was able to get her an appointment with an electrophysiologist who seems to have good experience with her cardio issues. Sadly, the appointment is two months away. Hoping a waitlist opening becomes available. There are too few of these specialists and many are not taking new patients.