Looking Back - What Were Your Early Warning Signs of Parkinson's?

Posted by Singularity @azsingularity, May 8 6:06pm

I'm 51 and do not (currently) have Parkinson's. However, I've been deemed to be "at high risk of developing PD" due to having something called REM Sleep Behavior disorder (RBD), which I was diagnosed with 2 years ago (after suffering from it for 5 years prior).

I did see a neurologist at Mayo after the RBD diagnosis, who ran me through the battery of PD tests, but she said I wasn't showing any detectable signs of it.

She tried to set my mind at ease by saying there IS a (small) chance I'll never actually develop PD. Yay for that, I guess.

For those of you who have Parkinson's, I'm curious:

Looking back over your "healthy years," knowing what you know now, were there any very early (pre-diagnosis) warning signs that you didn't recognize at the time? Anything you ignored or just wrote-off as "normal"?

What I'm getting at here is: short of the obvious symptoms (tremors, walking issues, etc), is there anything subtle I should be on the lookout for... so I know when to reach out to a neurologist again?

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Profile picture for eojeda1 @eojeda1

I hope you find the rest you deserve and need. My husband and I can't sleep in the same bed. I have been punched a few times in the darkness while in a sound sleep. Yes, every day is something different---a new challenge. There is no exact science to PD. While all this insanity has played out, we have been building our home on our own. We are on year 4 in the build. It is now up to me and my 17 year old son, but I am determined to get it done. May take me another year, but I hope to finish should the situation with PD worsen. I am also being checked for thyroid cancer this month. If I have it, it will be my 3rd fight against cancer. I know this sounds awful to most, but I am not sad. I am determined! Believe me, if I can fight the fight, you can too. Hang in there my friend.

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I hope you find the rest you deserve and need. My husband and I can't sleep in the same bed. I have been punched a few times in the darkness while in a sound sleep. Yes, every day is something different---a new challenge. There is no exact science to PD. While all this insanity has played out, we have been building our home on our own. We are on year 4 in the build. It is now up to me and my 17 year old son, but I am determined to get it done. May take me another year, but I hope to finish should the situation with PD worsen. I am also being checked for thyroid cancer this month. If I have it, it will be my 3rd fight against cancer. I know this sounds awful to most, but I am not sad. I am determined! Believe me, if I can fight the fight, you can too. Hang in there my friend.

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Hi, @eojeda1 - you do sound like a real fighter, and you've already been through a lot with your health and your husband's.

My husband's aunt and uncle built their own home years ago in Minnesota lake country, and I have to say I'm extremely impressed by people who build their own homes.

I realize you are being checked for thyroid cancer and do not have a diagnosis. However, if you're interested in reading about it or chatting with others who have this diagnosis or have been tested for it, you might check out this Mayo Clinic Connect support group:

- Thyroid Cancer Support Group https://connect.mayoclinic.org/group/thyroid-cancer/

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Profile picture for bobweller @bobweller

I am going on 70 in a few months. I have a sister who is 88 that has PD for years. She talked about shaking hands and arms, dizzy feelings at times, pain in her feet that moved up into her upper legs. She had falls at times I recall. The foot/leg pain turned in neuropathy (pain, numbness, hot, cold feelings, tingling and shooting electrical like pains. This started in her early 70's. Now she can't walk with out a walker and has assistance where she lives now. I started having pain in my feet after my 2nd organ transplant. I was 62. Now it has moved a bit up my legs into my shin area. I feel numbness, tingling, cold/hot, electrical type shooting pains at times. I gone to a few different different Neurologists so far but not conclusive reason for my pain and numbness. I now see a PD Neurologist just in case. I take Pregabalin daily and basically rub my feet in the morning and apply a heavy menthol product to my feet.

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Hello @bobweller,

I'm interested in your comment about applying a heavy menthol product to your feet. How does that help?

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Hi, @eojeda1 - you do sound like a real fighter, and you've already been through a lot with your health and your husband's.

My husband's aunt and uncle built their own home years ago in Minnesota lake country, and I have to say I'm extremely impressed by people who build their own homes.

I realize you are being checked for thyroid cancer and do not have a diagnosis. However, if you're interested in reading about it or chatting with others who have this diagnosis or have been tested for it, you might check out this Mayo Clinic Connect support group:

- Thyroid Cancer Support Group https://connect.mayoclinic.org/group/thyroid-cancer/

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Thank you! I greatly appreciate the information. We built a barndominium. Lots of interior work to do now, but I did manage to get flooring and trim in the bedrooms. I am now working on the flooring upstairs. Laying wood floors is no easy task. I think keeping busy with this project while taking care of my husband has helped me take a mental reprieve from the seriousness of our situation. My teenage son has been a help. He was diagnosed with Type 1 when he was 2. Unfortunately, he does not wake for alarms when he pitches highs and lows, so I am often treating him during the nights when the alarm goes off. Life is complex, but crying won't help, and blessings do come in different ways. You just have to wait for them! Remember, when you think you have it hard, someone else has it harder. Truth is that I am lucky to be alive as I suffered multiple strokes in 2019. It left me with various deficiencies, but we adapt. This is why we need to help and encourage each other to persevere no matter what.

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I had loss of smell over time but I dismissed it as sinus issues. Also had overactive bladder issues that I just dismissed as getting older. I had two bad knees so walking was painful but I started feeling like I was walking stiffly as if walking on stilts but I passed it off as just my knees. Once I was diagnosed and put on meds, I wasn’t walking stiffly any longer. Also be aware if you are starting to deal with depression and or anxiety or apathy.
My suggestion is to stay active with High Intensity Interval Training, take a good probiotic and keep your cholesterol and sugar levels healthy so if you are prone to get it you can hopefully slow progress.

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My husband who died at 80 with Parkinson's already ha REM sleep disorder at 20. He always had constipation. He lost his sense of smell around the age of 70. He had been a wine tasting judge. He started drinking heavily and I think that was trying to deal with what he felt was 'off.' He had Lewey body dementia at the end.

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What battery of tests did they run, if you are so inclined to speak of them?

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Hard to remember everything, but it included a number of motor exercises... having me stomp my feet really hard, tap my thumb and index finger (both hands) together as fast as possible, opening/closing hands as fast as possible, some basic toe-to-heel walking exercises. She also had me hold my hands up, fingers splayed, and looked for any detectible trembling (beyond what might be considered normal). There were probably a few other things, but I can't remember it all.

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Well stay on top of it..Eat fruits and exercise..blueberries are great?

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Profile picture for duckanyone @duckanyone

I had loss of smell over time but I dismissed it as sinus issues. Also had overactive bladder issues that I just dismissed as getting older. I had two bad knees so walking was painful but I started feeling like I was walking stiffly as if walking on stilts but I passed it off as just my knees. Once I was diagnosed and put on meds, I wasn’t walking stiffly any longer. Also be aware if you are starting to deal with depression and or anxiety or apathy.
My suggestion is to stay active with High Intensity Interval Training, take a good probiotic and keep your cholesterol and sugar levels healthy so if you are prone to get it you can hopefully slow progress.

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I am depressed and have high cholesterol controlled with atorvastin went from 252 to 110, cholesterol that is..my sugar is high too, I usually wait til it is between 100-110 around noon. I only eat twice a day too, I have lost 30#,so that helps with the fatty liver dx…

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Hello @bobweller,

I'm interested in your comment about applying a heavy menthol product to your feet. How does that help?

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I use bio freexe on my feet every night then slip on sny kind of socks
I have onlu been doinh it for about 4wks and eorks for me
I remember my dad every night taking a very hot bath not a shower yhen rubbing Bengay all over his legs and feet. I suspect he had RLS as i have that too
Just try it what do you have to lose.

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