Natural remedies for MAC

Posted by med08 @med08, Sep 30, 2022

Some have posted they use Chinese herbs and acupuncture to help with MAC. Which herbs and what part of body do you get acupuncture and for what specifically?

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@rchildress

I agree that it sounds like the side effects are worse than the disease therefore I am one that believes that I would rather live a good quality of life than a horrible quantity of life. I am working on my immune system to fight this. I am taking B Complex shots and several other immune building things on top of the one antibiotic that everyone says I shouldn’t take by itself I have spoken to 5 doctors and have also been referred to an Infectious Diseases doctor that I am currently waiting to hear from for an appointment. One doctor said to do nothing and recheck in 6 months. The 4 other doctors say that the 3 med cocktail is the chosen choice to kill this bug but understand that the side effects are sometimes very unpleasant and also can cause permanent damage to other organs. Therefore, at this stage I am reading all I can to figure this out and this group is absolutely wonderful. I am feeling great and have lots of energy. I am a widow and I live on an acreage that I mow and keep looking nice by myself without any problem. I would like to know any remedies that people have tried to avoid taking horrible drugs with horrible side effects.
I did get a nebulizer and am using 7% saline but still not coughing up anything. I would like to know any other suggestions of what to do to help except take more drugs. Maybe a trip to Hawaii. Lol
Thanks everyone

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Hi. I’m reading your old post from 2023 and wondering what you decided to do and how it went. I’m in a similar position.

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@malambrit

Hi Barbara, Thank you for the detailed reply. I am not familiar with MAI. I replaced my very old hot water heater. I don't wear a mask but wet down the soil before working in the garden. The 90/10 is I eat clean 90%. I don't eat processed foods except for very clean protein powder, protein bars. I make sourdough bread and it is white flour, I eat a slice most every day and I have a glass of wine most every night. I have a fairly new shower head but need to do better with cleaning / replacing. I have shortened my showers dramatically which pains me, my shower ritual was a great relaxer for me, an escape of sorts. Like you, I don't really have any symptoms, if I hadn't coughed up blood I would likely never been diagnosed. I really thought after a year of meds, I would have cleared. Thank you again, I pray for your continued strength.

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I am brand new to this. 63yo female, w contolled asthma. Going to ID next week for follow up after one of three cultures was positive and confirmed MAC and Bronchiestais w/o comp. Been dealing with the cough and mucous plugs since Sept 23. Just now being officially DX. I have changed shower-heads too ones with filters, clean weekly w/ bleach and drink only filtered water which now i realize the fridge filters arent good. Frustrated and worried about going on the Big 3 as i am susceptible to Yeast infections s when taking them. . And my entire digestive tract feels raw from everything. Thanks for all thr helpful notations .

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Hello. I am brand new to this. 63yo female, w contolled asthma. Going to ID next week for follow up after one of three cultures was positive and confirmed MAC and Bronchiestaisis w/o comp. Is anyone familiar with Oil of Oregano helping with MAC?
Been dealing with the cough and mucous plugs since Sept 23. Just now being officially DX. I have changed shower-heads too ones with filters, clean weekly w/ bleach and drink only filtered water which now i realize the fridge filters arent good. Frustrated and worried about going on the Big 3 as i am susceptible to Yeast infections s when taking them. . And my entire digestive tract feels raw from everything. Thanks for all thr helpful notations

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@cindiepollard

Hello. I am brand new to this. 63yo female, w contolled asthma. Going to ID next week for follow up after one of three cultures was positive and confirmed MAC and Bronchiestaisis w/o comp. Is anyone familiar with Oil of Oregano helping with MAC?
Been dealing with the cough and mucous plugs since Sept 23. Just now being officially DX. I have changed shower-heads too ones with filters, clean weekly w/ bleach and drink only filtered water which now i realize the fridge filters arent good. Frustrated and worried about going on the Big 3 as i am susceptible to Yeast infections s when taking them. . And my entire digestive tract feels raw from everything. Thanks for all thr helpful notations

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It has been a while since this question was raised - "Is anyone familiar with Oil of Oregano helping with MAC?" So I thought I would search Google Scholar again.
That answer is still - they have experimented with oregano essential oil, among others , in combination with MAC antibiotics, in the lab on slides. Yes, the oil did seem to make some of the antibiotics more effective at penetrating the biofilm to lower the infection. The conclusion - more research is needed. ( https://www.mdpi.com/2079-6382/12/9/1409 )
Here is what we still need to know:
Does it work inside the body? If so, how do you deliver the effective parts of the essential oil to the lungs to penetrate the film?
Does is work to kill the bacteria without antibiotics?

So today's answer is - promising, but not ready for prime time. We lack any evidence that consuming oregano oil or any other essential, will allow needed compounds to reach our lungs and heal the infection. There are strong sensitizing compounds in oregano and other essential oils, so please do not inhale or nebulize them.

One thing we do know that can reduce mycobacteria reproduction is 7% saline solution inhaled via a nebulizer followed by airway clearance to expel mucus. Do you currently do this?

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@cindiepollard

Hello. I am brand new to this. 63yo female, w contolled asthma. Going to ID next week for follow up after one of three cultures was positive and confirmed MAC and Bronchiestaisis w/o comp. Is anyone familiar with Oil of Oregano helping with MAC?
Been dealing with the cough and mucous plugs since Sept 23. Just now being officially DX. I have changed shower-heads too ones with filters, clean weekly w/ bleach and drink only filtered water which now i realize the fridge filters arent good. Frustrated and worried about going on the Big 3 as i am susceptible to Yeast infections s when taking them. . And my entire digestive tract feels raw from everything. Thanks for all thr helpful notations

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Hi! I have recently purchased Wild Mediterranean Oregano Oil from my local health food store and have been filling gel caps and taking 2 to 3 times a day. I also rub in the sole of my feet. I am on the Big 3 and have been for a year. I started daily dosage today. I am hoping the Oregano Oil helps! I am not good with medicine in general.... Taking high quality pre and probiotics. Best Wishes,

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@sueinmn

It has been a while since this question was raised - "Is anyone familiar with Oil of Oregano helping with MAC?" So I thought I would search Google Scholar again.
That answer is still - they have experimented with oregano essential oil, among others , in combination with MAC antibiotics, in the lab on slides. Yes, the oil did seem to make some of the antibiotics more effective at penetrating the biofilm to lower the infection. The conclusion - more research is needed. ( https://www.mdpi.com/2079-6382/12/9/1409 )
Here is what we still need to know:
Does it work inside the body? If so, how do you deliver the effective parts of the essential oil to the lungs to penetrate the film?
Does is work to kill the bacteria without antibiotics?

So today's answer is - promising, but not ready for prime time. We lack any evidence that consuming oregano oil or any other essential, will allow needed compounds to reach our lungs and heal the infection. There are strong sensitizing compounds in oregano and other essential oils, so please do not inhale or nebulize them.

One thing we do know that can reduce mycobacteria reproduction is 7% saline solution inhaled via a nebulizer followed by airway clearance to expel mucus. Do you currently do this?

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Hi. No i dont do the saline yet as i just learned about it while reading this group. I will try that also.

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@bluesplashgirl

If you are in the Twin Cities or South MN, send me a message and I will give you the contact for a wonderful acupuncturist.

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hi; I'm from mn. so would like the name of the accup.. as I go to mn most every yr. thanks. gg

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@silverlinda

I got Paracleanse OTC at Walmart which also has wormwood, clove with Neem Extract and the other bottle is Fulvic Acid I mix in my water once daily. Ashwadandha capsules in vitamins at Walmart also. I just read where wormwood was good with MAC bacterial infections. So far I feel okay I will say when I took 2 of the big three I had such a migraine I couldn't get up or function to do anything and was so nauseated. I'm still taking the one antibiotic Azithromycin.Also drinking an Ensure daily. Drinking Ginger tea also and taking ginger root capsule too. Still do my breathing treatments and I'm on oxygen at night.

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I'm curious about o2 at nite. is your o2 level low or do you take to make you feel better?
thanks. gg

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@silverlinda

being treated by pulmomologist he said he might send me to see a ID if my last bronch test shows I still have the bacteria, which it probably will since I only took all 3 of the
bIG antibiotics for only like 2 wks. Just couldn't tolerate 2 of them plus the itch and rash migraines and nausea just couldn't do them. Still on azithomycin tho and still use neb. and oxygen at night. Just don't have as much phelgm or cough as much as I did.

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I saw an i.d. Dr who diagnosed me with nocardia after a sputum test - was very disappointing cause she said you have to stay on the antibiotic for 6 mo or more and I hate taking ANY drugs as they all have side effects. has anyone else had this?
thanks. gg

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