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Collagen for osteoporosis?

Posted by cpb @cpb, Jul 26, 2021

My friend's medical doctor has her take collagen for her bones. I decided to try it and wondered if anyone knows more than I do about this.

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izard1 | @izard1 | Feb 8 11:53am
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@izard1

I broke out in a rash, left a taste of stale ornges. He sent something called Daily Collagen. I can use the regular Collagen.

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Fortibone may not bother any ones but after my experience I'll leave it alone.

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roisin11 | @roisin11 | Feb 9 12:45pm
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@sueinmn

At the risk of repeating, I posted this a while ago. It cites studies of the types of collagen needed to help bone growth, and the articles where I found the information.
https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/collagen-for-osteoporosis/?pg=9#comment-804738
As nearly as I can tell, Fortibone contains Type I collagen plus some other ingredients, which studies show is not enough for bone strength. You need to study the collagens of interest to you to determine what they contain.
Further, I will reiterate - check out your local pharmacy and some of the on-line vitamin sellers who offer multiple brands. Supplements are not regulated, but reputable companies will show they are evaluated by an independent certifier like NSF or USP. On-line single type of supplement sellers tend to be among the most expensive ways to buy these items.
Sue

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Hi Sue, as always I look forward to reading your comments, as they are packed with good information. I've just finished reading this thread and I'm wondering if you could send a link or two to the studies which show that Type I collagen is not enough for bone strength. The articles you posted links to in your previous January comment (which are very interesting) discussed studies conducted on only hydrolized type I collagen. They both showed benefits. Which studies recommended Types I, II, III, V and X types of collagen? Thank you so much!

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oliversolis1212 | @oliversolis1212 | Feb 10 12:14pm

Greetings friends,
Newly diagnosed with osteoporosis.
Anyone try collagen peptides from Healthy Bones Co., founder, Kevin Ellis.
This collagen has 1) 3 bioactive collagen -fortibone, fortified and verisol.
Anyone try another collagen peptides product from Native Path which is said to be similar.
Please respond if you have tried either product.
Thank you,
Esther

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gravity3 | @gravity3 | Feb 10 2:02pm
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@oliversolis1212

Greetings friends,
Newly diagnosed with osteoporosis.
Anyone try collagen peptides from Healthy Bones Co., founder, Kevin Ellis.
This collagen has 1) 3 bioactive collagen -fortibone, fortified and verisol.
Anyone try another collagen peptides product from Native Path which is said to be similar.
Please respond if you have tried either product.
Thank you,
Esther

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There is a thread on collagen on this site. Have you found it? Click on support groups above then osteoporosis . I believe it is there.
Would like to hear some specifics. Your age, dexa scores. Are you working with an endocrinologist, what has your provider recommended?

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bruceandruth1970 | @bruceandruth1970 | Feb 12 11:09am
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@izard1

Fortibone may not bother any ones but after my experience I'll leave it alone.

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Interested in how it affected you.

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osteoresearch | @osteoresearch | Feb 13 8:03am
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@roisin11

Hi Sue, as always I look forward to reading your comments, as they are packed with good information. I've just finished reading this thread and I'm wondering if you could send a link or two to the studies which show that Type I collagen is not enough for bone strength. The articles you posted links to in your previous January comment (which are very interesting) discussed studies conducted on only hydrolized type I collagen. They both showed benefits. Which studies recommended Types I, II, III, V and X types of collagen? Thank you so much!

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Just FYI for anyone who can't afford all the recommended supplements. I just looked this up: "Gelatine is primarily made from type I collagen, which is the most abundant form of collagen found in the human body. Type I collagen is mainly present in the skin, tendons, ligaments, bones, and other connective tissues.

As for its role in building bones, gelatine can have some benefits because it contains the amino acids glycine and proline, which are important for collagen synthesis and contribute to bone health. While gelatine itself doesn’t directly "build" bone in the same way that minerals like calcium do, consuming gelatine could support the production of collagen in bone tissue and contribute to the overall strength and structure of bones.

However, for stronger bones, it’s important to focus on a balanced diet that includes not just collagen but also other essential nutrients like calcium, vitamin D, magnesium, and phosphorus, which are key to bone health. Gelatine can be part of a broader, bone-friendly diet, but it’s not a substitute for those minerals."

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izard1 | @izard1 | Feb 13 9:59am
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@bruceandruth1970

Interested in how it affected you.

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I broke in a rash, and it left a taste in my nouth like stale oranges. izard1

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patwerthman | @patwerthman | Mar 17 1:33pm
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@teb

I really respect McCormick as well but on this particular issue he admitted he did not know, just suspected. Currently, there is just not enough evidence to get a definitive answer.

I recently saw a study on the effect of collagen on muscle in particular and it stated that the collagen in bovine and marine are comparable as they both contain type 1 which is the type used in bones. It's just a preference on my part for marine vs. bovine due to the nature of the source. Marine is sourced from cod skin and scales whereas bovine is sourced from the hides of cattle. I guess I'd just rather eat scales than hide! Many sources of bovine collagen state they are from grass fed cattle which I think is super important if you are consuming that form but production of collagen supplementation is so extensive that I just wonder if there really are that many grass fed cattle being raised as the beef industry is predominantly conventional. I guess I'm just a natural born skeptic and I question and evaluate the food and products I think about consuming. Right now, I like Vital Proteins Marine Collagen. It's simple cod and they test for heavy metals which is important for either source you select.

I guess Cleveland Clinic is skeptical too...
The benefits of collagen may be more hyped in the media than the evidence behind it. More published research studies are needed to show the true health benefits of collagen supplements.

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I see this was a year ago. But just learning about all of this. So is there benefit to whey collagen?

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patwerthman | @patwerthman | Mar 17 1:35pm

This cheese factory sells this. A friend pointed this out
https://store.mullinswhey.com/

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teb | @teb | Mar 17 2:58pm
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@patwerthman

I see this was a year ago. But just learning about all of this. So is there benefit to whey collagen?

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Whey is a protein so different from a collagen product although there may be some products that contain both.

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