Best Shower heads for MAC

Posted by kathyhg @kathyhg, Mar 18, 2019

I've been reading about shower heads and it seems that many are bad for growing bacteria. One mentioned on another forum was called The Original Chrome Shower Head by Shower Clear. It is very expensive and wondering if anyone has experience with this or others that might be good.
Thanks,

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@filefolder1

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9802317/
According to this study, greater numbers of bacteria were found in “rain head” style shower heads than hand held or “massage” heads. I wonder if that’s because rain head styles are mounted flat and therefore don’t drain completely or dry as fast?

I’ve also been researching using vinegar for disinfecting shower head. Seems it has to be at least 6% acetic acid. Most of what is sold in US is less than that. At that higher strength, can only submerge 30 minutes before damage to materials.

I use a household vinegar soak once a week to reduce mineral clogging but I’m not finding where that practice kills MAC. Even so called “cleaning vinegar” in the US is only 5%.

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The article says that the width of the spray in the rain head style was bigger than the handheld model that has a more focused spray so less spraying going into the air.

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@aerogirl

@colleenyoung Thank you for the info & links. Regarding why I questioned if a handheld shower head might increase risk of bacteria - I just imagined that with a long hose that is continually wet it might be just an extended breeding ground. I haven't read anything to that effect, it's just me wondering!

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That makes complete sense to me. I'm getting rid of my handheld one that was installed for water efficiency.

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I use shower clear. I took the opportunity and asked my kids to buy it for me last year as a Christmas gift. They did. But still I take short showers, just in case. The trick is it opens and when you open it all water which stays there sills out- it’s a good cup I must say. Then it stays open and dries. I spray it also with 70% rubbing alcohol after and before I take shower. Once in a while my husband unscrews it and soaks in vinegar or chloride. I believe it was over 300 dollars. Well this year I did not get anything for my birthday so probably I used my budget.

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@mame

Does the 140 degrees apply if you have on-demand hot water as opposed to tanks? Are hand held shower sprayers worse with all that hose?

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I remember reading from Dr. Falkinham that there are no studies regarding tankless water systems, but I would think that since water isn’t sitting there in a tank for days there’s probably a lesser bacterial load

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@paxmundi

I remember reading from Dr. Falkinham that there are no studies regarding tankless water systems, but I would think that since water isn’t sitting there in a tank for days there’s probably a lesser bacterial load

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We have a tankless water heater and I am hopeful it is not contributing to any NTM in my household water; I would love it if there were actual research on the question. While MAI, my current strain, seems to be infrequently found in household water sources (so the issue was lower on my “to do” list than others) I do have not an insignificant amount of BE so being cautious generally moving forward is warranted. These are the steps we are taking to evaluate and potentially address NTM in our household water:
1) We tested our household water at the three main locations I use it: kitchen sink, bathroom sink, master shower. Waiting on results ….
2) We removed the shower head altogether for now pending water test results. If there is no or low NTM in shower water I think we will likely leave it without shower head. At first my husband was really put off by the idea of not having a shower head. But once we used the shower sans shower head it was absolutely fine. Even kinda nice as the water is softer, smoother, like being under a waterfall. Of course a lot more water seems to come out and we are watching our water usage to see the impact. We live in a water scarce area and have been less frequent showerers for many years because of it (another reason I do not suspect my MAI is link to my shower), so we’re are very sensitive to our water usage, may not be a concern for others. I will point out that removing the shower head cut down steam by at least 90%. It is pretty incredible. We have bathroom fans and I do wear a water resistant surgical mask while showering (just for belt and suspenders as I do prefer a nice hot shower to a lukewarm one) but the lack of steam without a shower head is truly remarkable, particularly if it’s a short (albeit very hot!) shower.
3) If the test results show concerning levels of NTM at any location we will add the requisite filters for NTM, and I think we are leaning to add one to the kitchen sink regardless just so I don’t have to boil or put through my Lifestraw pitcher all my drinking/cleaning/cooking water, which I have done since diagnosis. As everyone knows the filters are expensive, and a maintenance hassle but even if the kitchen sink water comes back negative for NTM, I use that water so frequently I think my mindset needs to know it is “safe”, and of course negative for NTM today does not mean negative for NTM tomorrow as we all know.
4) We have also removed the aerators from the bathroom and kitchen sink which I hate because the flow is now so wonky but it seems like a reasonable adjustment to make all things considered.
5) If the household water comes back negative or low for NTM I suspect we will test the household water at to-be-determined intervals. Testing is not cheap, in fact it is pretty dang expensive (about $500 a sample) but we have a relatively newer home with all pvc piping and I am aware of the concerns that the growing prevalence of pvc piping may be contributing to increase in NTM infections. At some point, it may just come down to the math re cost of filters at multiple locations versus cost of periodic testing. However here at the beginning we did want to have a sense of where we stand with regard to NTM in our household water to help inform our longer term approach.

If anyone has any other tricks, tips, or suggestions re evaluating and addressing household water with regard to NTM risk, I would love to hear your thoughts. Thanks.

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