Comprehensive Overview Of PMR
Another video that is worth watching if you have time.
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Another video that is worth watching if you have time.
Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the Polymyalgia Rheumatica (PMR) Support Group.
Common onset of gout is 40-60 years (mostly male population) but not exclusively. It is believed Covid virus and the vaccine has played a role in the increase, including younger folks. There is a correlation of increased uric acid levels.The articles are many if you are interested in researching. Peer reviewed.
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2 ReactionsI don't know when my onset of gout was. I passed a uric acid kidney stone about 4 years ago. There was some excitement about my elevated uric acid levels then. I doubt my kidney stones formed overnight. In any case, my kidney stones were treated successfully by a urologist until they recurred after treatment was stopped.
My rheumatologist addressed my uric acid blood level with allopurinol initially. The comment at the time was "maybe" my uric acid level was contributing to my symptoms --- meaning my symptoms of the past. I didn't have any symptoms when the comment was made.
A year later, I still didn't have symptoms and didn't feel any different being treated with allopurinol. It was determined that I was "asymptomatic" so my uric acid level didn't need to be treated. Two years after stopping allopurinol... a random uric acid level was rechecked by my GP. I still wasn't symptomatic but my uric acid level was high again. My GP deferred to my rheumatologist to determine if it should be treated or not.
At my recent rheumatology visit, I was asked if I was sure I didn't have gout. I asked "How would I know but I didn't think so." My rheumatolgist said they could do a quick check by doing an ultrasound of my big toe. The ultrasound took a minute to do. It was conclusive for my rheumatologist to say, "definitely gout and very surprising that I never had a gout flare."
I did some Google research into "IL-6 levels and gout" and found the following:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27219123/
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Maybe the Actemra I take is preventing gout flares.
Thanks ... I have researched a bit about gout because it is something new for me. I don't seem to be symptomatic even though my uric acid levels have been elevated for a number of years. My diagnosis was recent though.
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1 ReactionI couldnt manage on 20mg until I split the dose. Lately experts are recommending this. I wish they would mention that.
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1 ReactionTrust me if you have a gout attack you will know it, the pain can be very intense
I have peripheral neuropathy and severe spinal stenosis. If gout is supposed to make my big toes hurt, I don't have much feeling in my feet. My joints of my big toes have some significant deformity and rather large uric acid crystals deposited there.
I think asymptomatic hyperuricemia exists and probably caused a lot of inflammation in addition to PMR inflammation. It does seem to add to my clinical picture and helps to explain the systemic inflammation that my rheumatologist says I have.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7075706/
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There is a good chance that prednisone prevented gout flares too. As usual, prednisone doesn't treat the root cause of gout. The same is true for PMR.
https://summitrheumatology.com/patient-lifestyle/prednisone-for-gout/.
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2 Reactions@ DadCue: This is GREAT information! Thank you for sharing! I learned a great deal.
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1 ReactionI’ve been to numerous doctors and can’t get any answers for what is happening in my body. I’m in severe pain in my joints and muscles. My blood work comes back normal which is good but also bad because I’m not getting any answers and I’m getting worse. I can barely get out of bed and walk in the morning and to get in and out of the car is extremely difficult. The blood work that came back high was the MCV AB 63 high. My primary care doctor doesn’t know what that means and referred me to a neurologist but can’t get in to see her for 6 months. What else can I do to find out what is going on ?
Welcome @kbromwell, Sorry you haven't been able to find any answers yet. From what I've read a high MCV AB level can be associated with rheumatoid arthritis .
"What is MCV ab?
Mutated Citrullinated Vimentin (MCV) Antibody - Anti-mutated citrullinated vimentin (MCV) antibody is one of several specific anti-citrullinated protein antibodies which may be used as a second-line marker of rheumatoid arthritis (RA), in addition to rheumatoid factor and anti-cyclic citrullinated peptide (CCP)."
-- https://testdirectory.questdiagnostics.com/test/test-detail/13238/mutated-citrullinated-vimentin-mcv-antibody
You might find this reference helpful:
-- Polymyalgia rheumatica vs. rheumatoid arthritis: https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/polymyalgia-rheumatica-vs-rheumatoid-arthritis
Have you considered seeing a rheumatologist?
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3 ReactionsWere you given a trial of low dose prednisone?