Has anyone figured out what technique works best to stop AFib episodes

Posted by zeke2u @zeke2u, Dec 1 7:18am

I'm 68 and had a MI last year. Ever since then I get recurring AFib episodes which can last anywhere from 1/2hr to 6hrs. Most episodes happen when I'm sleeping or laying down. Coughing seems to work the best to stop the episodes but not always.

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@yaya77066

Prior to COVID I always had MVP and was born with an erratic heart beat that showed up on the EKG on rare occasions. Cardiologist decided not to medicate because I'd gone 57 years without a problem. After A-Fib showed up as my start of Long Covid it then because necessary to put me on meds.
He's always keep a close watch on my and periodically I had to wear a heart monitor for a week at a time to be sure everything was normal for me, not anyone else he personally encountered.

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@yaya77066 Thanks for the explanation. It sounds like you have a conservative cardiologist who doesn't just throw meds at people so that is good!

COVID messed with my heart rhythm but it went back to normal once I recovered. I know someone else who still has arrythmias from COVID.

How will you know if the long COVID heart effect resolves? Or is it not expected to resolve? Is your mitral valve prolapse worse?

Good luck!

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@windyshores

@yaya77066 Thanks for the explanation. It sounds like you have a conservative cardiologist who doesn't just throw meds at people so that is good!

COVID messed with my heart rhythm but it went back to normal once I recovered. I know someone else who still has arrythmias from COVID.

How will you know if the long COVID heart effect resolves? Or is it not expected to resolve? Is your mitral valve prolapse worse?

Good luck!

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In the latter part of January I have 2 days of tests and on the 3rd day I have the heart monitor again for, I suppose, a week. I try to remember to put a scarf around the lower part of my face to cover mouth and nose on very cold days. Breathing in cold air is another cause of heart attack in our age group especially with a compromised heart.

I won't have much time to write with the holiday season so close. Hope you have a wonderful holiday season.

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@yaya77066

In the latter part of January I have 2 days of tests and on the 3rd day I have the heart monitor again for, I suppose, a week. I try to remember to put a scarf around the lower part of my face to cover mouth and nose on very cold days. Breathing in cold air is another cause of heart attack in our age group especially with a compromised heart.

I won't have much time to write with the holiday season so close. Hope you have a wonderful holiday season.

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"...Breathing in cold air is another cause of heart attack in our age group especially with a compromised heart..."

You won't believe this, but several people posting on afibbers.org forum have claimed to stop a full-blown AF episode they putting their heads out a window on a cold winter's day or night. I think I recall that a cold shower can do the same. Over on MedCram, a YouTube channel, Dr. Schuelt said that at the start of COVID, he, an ER physician, pulmonologist, and lecturer at a CA university, he began to take a cold 5 minute shower when he got home, first to ensure he was mostly rid of any virus and other pathogens, but also to stress his system to improve its immune response. This is well-established in the literature, so don't think he's just a flake.

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@gloaming

"...Breathing in cold air is another cause of heart attack in our age group especially with a compromised heart..."

You won't believe this, but several people posting on afibbers.org forum have claimed to stop a full-blown AF episode they putting their heads out a window on a cold winter's day or night. I think I recall that a cold shower can do the same. Over on MedCram, a YouTube channel, Dr. Schuelt said that at the start of COVID, he, an ER physician, pulmonologist, and lecturer at a CA university, he began to take a cold 5 minute shower when he got home, first to ensure he was mostly rid of any virus and other pathogens, but also to stress his system to improve its immune response. This is well-established in the literature, so don't think he's just a flake.

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@gloaming a long time ago I read that putting one's head under cold water would slow tachycardia. I tried it with afib but no luck. I have had some success in aborting an episode just as it started, once by sitting up straight (I don't recline anymore after eating) and once w/Gas X and belching! One time I tried getting up and walking around, and bearing down and got afib to stop for some seconds, started again, did it again, stopped, started again and was rolling!

Here's a weird one: in the ER I often convert when the doctor comes in and we chat. Or anyone really. Last time the doctor responded by prescribing " a chat."

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@yaya77066

Prior to COVID I always had MVP and was born with an erratic heart beat that showed up on the EKG on rare occasions. Cardiologist decided not to medicate because I'd gone 57 years without a problem. After A-Fib showed up as my start of Long Covid it then because necessary to put me on meds.
He's always keep a close watch on my and periodically I had to wear a heart monitor for a week at a time to be sure everything was normal for me, not anyone else he personally encountered.

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Flecainide has always prevented/stopped my A-fib

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@mikereed1946

Flecainide has always prevented/stopped my A-fib

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I never needed Flecainide until last February when my Long Covid began. Prior to that my then mildly erratic heart beat never bothered me. I was always athletic, it never slowed me down.

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I read "technique" in the title of this thread as excluding medications!

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@gloaming

"...Breathing in cold air is another cause of heart attack in our age group especially with a compromised heart..."

You won't believe this, but several people posting on afibbers.org forum have claimed to stop a full-blown AF episode they putting their heads out a window on a cold winter's day or night. I think I recall that a cold shower can do the same. Over on MedCram, a YouTube channel, Dr. Schuelt said that at the start of COVID, he, an ER physician, pulmonologist, and lecturer at a CA university, he began to take a cold 5 minute shower when he got home, first to ensure he was mostly rid of any virus and other pathogens, but also to stress his system to improve its immune response. This is well-established in the literature, so don't think he's just a flake.

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I had afib for an hour on a Christmas Eve years ago. I was told to go to an ER for treatment. As soon as I walked outside, the afib stopped. A physician verified to me that cold often stops afib.

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@yaya77066

In the latter part of January I have 2 days of tests and on the 3rd day I have the heart monitor again for, I suppose, a week. I try to remember to put a scarf around the lower part of my face to cover mouth and nose on very cold days. Breathing in cold air is another cause of heart attack in our age group especially with a compromised heart.

I won't have much time to write with the holiday season so close. Hope you have a wonderful holiday season.

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My last "episode" was about a month ago. My HR went up to 220 (as it's done when hospitalized). I knew when it was coming on and immediately asked my daughter for help. I practiced breathing, laid on my back with my legs up, splashed my face with cold water, did the bearing down technique, and took my Flecanide. None of which helped immediately. My daughter read something on-line about the cold water and the diving reflex (or whatever it's called) and filled a bowl with lots of ice and cold water. You're supposed to take 3 deep breaths and then on the 3rd one, hold your breath, and dunk your head in the cold water. Hold under water for as long as you can and then come up for air. My HR dropped from 200 (at this point) to 90 in a matter of about 45 seconds. It was pretty amazing and a huge relief.

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@bextruelove

My last "episode" was about a month ago. My HR went up to 220 (as it's done when hospitalized). I knew when it was coming on and immediately asked my daughter for help. I practiced breathing, laid on my back with my legs up, splashed my face with cold water, did the bearing down technique, and took my Flecanide. None of which helped immediately. My daughter read something on-line about the cold water and the diving reflex (or whatever it's called) and filled a bowl with lots of ice and cold water. You're supposed to take 3 deep breaths and then on the 3rd one, hold your breath, and dunk your head in the cold water. Hold under water for as long as you can and then come up for air. My HR dropped from 200 (at this point) to 90 in a matter of about 45 seconds. It was pretty amazing and a huge relief.

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Wow @bextruelove I am going to try that! How far do you dunk your head in? Is your face in the cold water?

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