Does quality of environment affect Sleep Apnea effects?

Posted by robertwills @robertwills, Nov 3 9:10am

Would a favorable environment vs an unfavorable environment significantly affect sleep apnea symptoms? Like for example, you have bad relations at work vs one with good relations. In the first case you are tired all day but in the second case you feel energized all day?

Also, are there any other tests other than in-home or outside sleep laboratory tests for Sleep Apnea? Like checking your oxygen level upon waking? Are there are any definite hallmarks of sleep apnea that strongly correlare?

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@robertwills Sleep apnea is when breathing is interrupted sufficiently during sleep to cause the sleep cycle to be disrupted. That said, it is unlikely that work or living environment would cause it, unless somehow your ability to breathe or air quality is affected.
As far as I know, the only way to get an accurate is with a sleep test. But I can tell you the the mechanism for a home test is quite small and unobtrusive these days compared to earlier setups. O2 levels upon awakening would not accurately reflect those during sleep.
Do you think you are suffering from sleep apnea? Or do you think maybe your description of workplace interaction may indicate that an uncomfortable or toxic workplace id=s causing depression?

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@sueinmn

@robertwills Sleep apnea is when breathing is interrupted sufficiently during sleep to cause the sleep cycle to be disrupted. That said, it is unlikely that work or living environment would cause it, unless somehow your ability to breathe or air quality is affected.
As far as I know, the only way to get an accurate is with a sleep test. But I can tell you the the mechanism for a home test is quite small and unobtrusive these days compared to earlier setups. O2 levels upon awakening would not accurately reflect those during sleep.
Do you think you are suffering from sleep apnea? Or do you think maybe your description of workplace interaction may indicate that an uncomfortable or toxic workplace id=s causing depression?

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Thank you for your reply. I am not asking if a negative environment could create sleep apnea; I'm asking could it increase the symptom of tiredness and a positive environment decrease the symptom or even eliminate it?" I know that caffeine and other similar acting medications can lessen the symptom but can a positive environment alone?

But yes, one of the tests you indicated seem to be the only current ways to know for sure.

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@robertwills

Thank you for your reply. I am not asking if a negative environment could create sleep apnea; I'm asking could it increase the symptom of tiredness and a positive environment decrease the symptom or even eliminate it?" I know that caffeine and other similar acting medications can lessen the symptom but can a positive environment alone?

But yes, one of the tests you indicated seem to be the only current ways to know for sure.

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Well, a positive outlook generally makes things better, but I'm pretty sure it can make you ignore other niggling problems.
For example, when the weather is chilly and damp, I hurt more. If I sit on the couch and think about it, more aches and pains and things to be unhappy about creep in, and pretty soon I feel even worse - all I want to do is stare at TV or take a nap. On the other hand, if I get up and move, I can ignore the aches. Pretty soon I get absorbed in something enjoyable and life seems much better, and I will realize I still hurt, but I'm not focusing on it.

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But is sleep apnea, like say a broken arm? Your arm will feel better if you are in a warm, safe room but it will still be very painful as if you were outside in a cold dangerous place.

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@robertwills

But is sleep apnea, like say a broken arm? Your arm will feel better if you are in a warm, safe room but it will still be very painful as if you were outside in a cold dangerous place.

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Hmm, I'm not a sleep specialist, but I don't think so. Sleep apnea is part autonomic nervous system, not something that happens consciously, so I don't think your example applies. I'll ask my pulmonologist at our appointment in December when we discuss my sleep apnea.
Here is some info from Mayo Clinic about sleep apnea:
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/sleep-apnea/symptoms-causes/syc-20377631

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Our environments to have an effect on us, and yes, it can be almost debilitating. When under duress, or stress, for example, our bodies enter even a mild fight-or-flight response. When this happens we secret adrenalin and our bodies secrete cortisol. These are the two chief 'stress hormones.'

Cortisol has benefits when in acute stress, but not when in intractable situations where the stress goes on for weeks and month. It begins to impose stresses on the body all by itself, including suppressing the immune system and encouraging inflammation and other comorbidities such as metabolic syndrome.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S006524232400101X#:~:text=However%2C%20prolonged%20activation%20of%20this%20axis%20and%20increased,visceral%20obesity%2C%20both%20significant%20contributors%20to%20metabolic%20syndrome.
Untreated stress (meaning you're not fixing the trouble and it doesn't go away) can cause rumination at night when you're attempting to fall asleep. That friendship that fell apart so catastrophically last summer...it still plays on you mind, maybe because you're starting to be honest and realize you were largely the chief cause of it by inaction or action. It causes poor sleep, or less than you need because you lie awake for an hour instead of falling asleep inside of 10 minutes which most people in 'equilibrium' tend to do.

Physical exertion can cause inordinate physical exhaustion which has an effect on sleep. If you have sore muscles, blisters, joints, or just did too much, you might have trouble getting to sleep. You can be over-tired.

You may have a hormonal imbalance of some kind. An endocrinologist can help to pinpoint any defects or deficiencies, but also production of too much hormone in some cases. Thyroxin is an example.

Some, like me, have very active minds that can't get too much stimulation, or so they tell themselves. Then, come bedtime, they're still running at 100 MPH upstairs, figuring out a problem, or a design, just how they're going to resolve something.

I find that getting into my hot tub at 0100 hours is great! It's part of my bedtime routine, along with brushing my teeth, washing my face so my medical tape will stick to my mouth all night*, and putting in silicone ear plugs to keep street noise to a minimum. The tub is quiet time out in the dark back yard, a time to sing a hymn, say a prayer for someone, to find gratitude for something...it gets me out of my head.

*I have sleep apnea and wear a nasal mask. It only covers my nose, leaving my lips exposed. When I sleep, my lips lose their tone and relax. The machine has enough pressure going into my nose that my lips separate and the air, seeking the least path of resistance, issues from my mouth, thus awakening me repeatedly. Nobody can 'sleep' like that! So, I tear off a remnant of medical tape and place it over my mouth. Works like a charm.

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@gloaming

Our environments to have an effect on us, and yes, it can be almost debilitating. When under duress, or stress, for example, our bodies enter even a mild fight-or-flight response. When this happens we secret adrenalin and our bodies secrete cortisol. These are the two chief 'stress hormones.'

Cortisol has benefits when in acute stress, but not when in intractable situations where the stress goes on for weeks and month. It begins to impose stresses on the body all by itself, including suppressing the immune system and encouraging inflammation and other comorbidities such as metabolic syndrome.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S006524232400101X#:~:text=However%2C%20prolonged%20activation%20of%20this%20axis%20and%20increased,visceral%20obesity%2C%20both%20significant%20contributors%20to%20metabolic%20syndrome.
Untreated stress (meaning you're not fixing the trouble and it doesn't go away) can cause rumination at night when you're attempting to fall asleep. That friendship that fell apart so catastrophically last summer...it still plays on you mind, maybe because you're starting to be honest and realize you were largely the chief cause of it by inaction or action. It causes poor sleep, or less than you need because you lie awake for an hour instead of falling asleep inside of 10 minutes which most people in 'equilibrium' tend to do.

Physical exertion can cause inordinate physical exhaustion which has an effect on sleep. If you have sore muscles, blisters, joints, or just did too much, you might have trouble getting to sleep. You can be over-tired.

You may have a hormonal imbalance of some kind. An endocrinologist can help to pinpoint any defects or deficiencies, but also production of too much hormone in some cases. Thyroxin is an example.

Some, like me, have very active minds that can't get too much stimulation, or so they tell themselves. Then, come bedtime, they're still running at 100 MPH upstairs, figuring out a problem, or a design, just how they're going to resolve something.

I find that getting into my hot tub at 0100 hours is great! It's part of my bedtime routine, along with brushing my teeth, washing my face so my medical tape will stick to my mouth all night*, and putting in silicone ear plugs to keep street noise to a minimum. The tub is quiet time out in the dark back yard, a time to sing a hymn, say a prayer for someone, to find gratitude for something...it gets me out of my head.

*I have sleep apnea and wear a nasal mask. It only covers my nose, leaving my lips exposed. When I sleep, my lips lose their tone and relax. The machine has enough pressure going into my nose that my lips separate and the air, seeking the least path of resistance, issues from my mouth, thus awakening me repeatedly. Nobody can 'sleep' like that! So, I tear off a remnant of medical tape and place it over my mouth. Works like a charm.

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Agree - when I saw my sleep therapist a few years ago, she gave me a 1/4 inch thick pile of paper detailing all the various sleep hygiene issues that can affect proper sleep.

I suggest a search of the web on the subject. Here's a starter:
https://www.tomsguide.com/how-to/how-to-use-the-10-3-2-1-0-sleep-rule-for-better-slumber-tonight

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