Living with metastic prostate cancer: Any positive stories to share?

Posted by olsente @olsente, Feb 17, 2023

Diagnosed with metastic prostrate cancer Nov17,2022, the cancer had already spread to my pelvic bone, lymph nodes , thoracic spine and throughout my bones fracturing 11 ribs, and to top it off 3 tumors in my head 1 of them behind my right eye causing vision problems. I started chemo Nov 28 ish , I’m on casodex and get the Lupron injection! My symptoms were back pain and I had seen multiple doctors through middle summer/fall! These doctors had me on physical therapy , accupuncture, 2 specialist stated I needed surgery on my back, they filled me with pain meds..not one doctor did series of blood test! Only test was an X-ray! My wife took me to mercy hospital Nov 11 in Buffalo because I was in so much pain and could barely walk. Within 4 hours in the ER the doctor told us they were quite sure I had cancer and would need to admit me run a lot of tests along with getting me healthy enough to go home.Sure shit I was admitted for 13 days,, then the day after my first chemo I ended up back in the hospital for 7 more days, I have had so many blood transfusion due to my counts being so low, a Foley catheter was put in me as well because I couldn’t urinate! I still have my catheter in and am doing my chemo! Does anyone have anything positive they can share with similarity!!! I am having my wife write this due to my vision

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@dsingstock

Sorry Butch that you are experiencing so many side effects. I pray that some how you can win this battle. I am on Eligard and Xtandi, which has given me some nasty side effects too.

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Xtandi has given my husband nasty side effects as well

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@kujhawk1978

Here's my clinical history, nine years since diagnosis. The chart shows a PCa that is aggressive, GS 8, PSADT and PSAV, time to BCR after surgery...

It also shows an aggressive approach I with the support of my medical team have taken.

There is a tendency when first diagnosed both by the patient and their medical team to determine life expectancy and use that as the time frame when making decisions, especially when you're diagnosed at a younger age.

What I have learned is to approach treatment decisions from a five year window. If it works for 3-5 years, great, I've lived and enjoyed that time period, for example, my wife and I are travelling to Iceland in late June this year.

The growth in treatment options and imaging since I was diagnosed in January 2014 have been exponential and more are in the pipeline. With the advances in research, particularly in genetic markers and individual treatment options based on those genetic markers, we are entering an era of tailored treatment vice population based medicine.

Do your homework, seek out a medical team that advocates for you.

Here's "my rules...!"

1. Please know your stuff.As a member of my medical team, you should have a thorough knowledge of my cancer and of the latest developments in research, and be ready to formulate a plan of attack. 

2. Please do your homework.I expect you to have reviewed my medical records prior to my appointment. You have looked at my x-rays; you have my pathology report; you know how many children I have. In the world of cancer care, every scrap of data must be scrutinized for its significance.

3. Respect my point.  of view. Leaders listen to all sides thoughtfully before reaching a conclusion.With patience and finesse, I am sure you can help me to feel confident about the plan you have shaped for me. 

4. Be curious. Do not close your mind to new hypotheses and don’t ignore clues that might lead you toward the best results. Please rid yourself of the temptation to make your day easier by delivering perfunctory care. 

5. When it’s decision time, decide! If you think treating my cancer is not worth it; if you think I am at the point where I should stop chemotherapy; if I have veered off the path you have cleared for me—then speak up! Care for me with a dogged determination to get me healthy and do not keep any secrets that might lead to regret. I want an oncologist who knows what is best for me and doesn’t chicken out in difficult times. 

6. Be responsible. Follow up on promises and follow through on tasks. I can tell you with absolute certainty that there is no greater disappointment than realizing that you cannot rely on your doctor. 

7. Talk to me. I need your advice, comfort, and expertise; I am scared and discouraged—are you willing to take a seat, look me in the face, and answer my questions? Leaders welcome scrutiny of their communication skills. No one cares if a flunky is curt.

My Rules:

Don’t Walk In Cold to an appointment.  To make sure I do the best thing for myi ndividual prostate cancer, I need to educate myself. * Knowledge will empower my BS detector. When Dr. Thrasher and Dr. Emmott told me ADT is what I need and did not want to talk about imagining and combining other therapies such as radiation and chemotherapy, I didn’t just have to accept their advice on faith.  * Walk in the door ready to start the conversation at a different level.  I don’t have to spend time talking about the basics, things like Gleason grade and clinical stage and what they mean.  I already know.  I can have an intelligent discussion about the merits of a particularly treatment for my cancer, my likelihood of being cured, and risk of side effects. * I won’t blindly accept the opinion of a non-specialist– I know that my cancer requires a team approach.

Once I make an informed decision and carry it out, I never look back. Well, that is not entirely true, I look for lessons learned from that decision. The path is always forward: I continue to learn about PCa an dalways look ahead. What counts is today and what lies in the future. Yesterday is gone, so forget it, well, learn from it.

I educate myself as completely as possible and take the time I need, I always know that no matter the outcome of a particular choice, I make the best possible decision. That knowledge that I have thought my decisions through carefully is what is really important—and may be more important than the decision itself.  

I am in charge. Not my doctor. They need to be consulted and their opinions and ideas should carry weight as I make my decisions. But I never forget: it is my life, my today, and my future. I have made the best possible, fully educated decisions that makes sense for me, with the focus on long life. 

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I appreciate your advice and rules and am going to use them as mine starting now, I was given 2 years and if was able to get all the chemo treatments possibly I could get 5 years. I am a patient with Roswell in Buffalo NY. Needless to say I couldn’t complete all the chemo! I told my oncologist I’m going to fight this and I am trying my hardest! My daughter and only child just turned 17 and I want many more years with her. Thank again!

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I have been in remission for 10 tears with state four prostate cancer I went back on Lupron and my PSA is now.00001 I have two lymph nodes pos and the L4and L5 also pos should I take radiation four the five areas I have no pain

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Has anyone had testicals removed to totally reduce testosterone ?

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@ckingbachelor

I have been in remission for 10 tears with state four prostate cancer I went back on Lupron and my PSA is now.00001 I have two lymph nodes pos and the L4and L5 also pos should I take radiation four the five areas I have no pain

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I radiated L@ Its mush Back is week If you do 2 together you may get disc compression ouch

Mine was 1 inch of cancer

Its still in my T 5 and other small spots

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@ckingbachelor

I have been in remission for 10 tears with state four prostate cancer I went back on Lupron and my PSA is now.00001 I have two lymph nodes pos and the L4and L5 also pos should I take radiation four the five areas I have no pain

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@ckingbachelor, am I understanding correctly that cancer has spread to your lymph nodes and to your spine? Has radiation been suggested? How are you doing?

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I have no pain and the Lupron has reduced my PSA to .0001. All that I have read says no radiation until I have pain in my L4 or L5. I see my urologist in April. The oncologist wanted to start radiation. I am just going to wait and see. My prostrate was removed in 2012.

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Hello. New Here, just joined, and I feel like I want to share. I recently turned 60. Had surgery to remove prostate in 2014. Was Free and Clear (psa undetectable) for 4 years and on the 5th year, PSA shot up to 25. Got Scanned and it was back but confined to prostate area and 1 lymph node close to prostate. Had 60 days of focused radiation and 2 1/2 years of Lupron injections. After 6 months of being off lupron, PSA shot back up to 30. Scanned again and it is now in lymph node in my shoulder / neck area and a lymph node near my hip somewhere, as well as returning in the prostate area. I recently started Eligard injections, Abiraterone and Prednisone. I'm not sure if this is a positive story or not but I'm trying to stay very positive. I think I am frustrated more than anything else .... but .... I have no pain (other than old age getting to me) and I am having very few side effects from the new drugs. I am still working and playing and doing almost everything I used to. I feel better after reading a few of these stories. I really hope this new treatment does the trick!! Thank You All and Good Luck to all of you.

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@05271935

Has anyone had testicals removed to totally reduce testosterone ?

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@05271935, you might wish to review this discussion:

- Anyone considered bilateral orchiectomy: Why or why not?
https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/bilateral-orchiectomy/

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Just a question as I know I am late to the conversation: have you considered going to Roswell?

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