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Morning depression

Posted by twinnotes @teinnotes, Oct 23 9:55pm

Is there a thing called morning depression? If so, what does everyone do for it. I do take celexa but still have morning depression and anxiety.

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1oldsoul | @1oldsoul | Oct 25 7:04am
In reply to @frouke "I also have a terrible feeling around the same time as everyone else, around 4-5 am.,..." + (show)
@frouke

I also have a terrible feeling around the same time as everyone else, around 4-5 am., I take an Ativan 0.5 mg. and it goes away gradually, my doctor thinks it’s the Ativan because I take it in the early morning and then at bedtime so he feels I’m experiencing withdrawal. I can’t dismiss this entirely but it seems rather coincidental that so many of us have this problem at the same time and I didn’t read that anyone else is taking this medication. I am curious about the possibility that it’s gut related so I will look into this.

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To @peeteer22 and @frouke and others:
I can tell you about my similar experience with Xanax. I took a low dose (generally half of a .25 mg) for about 3 years mainly at night although there were many times I needed it during the day but held off/powered through the anxiety because I was afraid of dependence. About 2-3 years into taking it my anxiety and depression worsened (even started having occasional suicidal thoughts-so terrifying) and I finally realized I was having withdrawal symptoms (the next morning after taking it at night) and I stopped it cold turkey. A year later my anxiety and depression are almost nonexistent and I am finally starting to sleep better although I rarely ever get 7 or 8 hours sleep. Please consider going off the benzodiazepine and getting a prescription for something else if you need it such as Trazodone or Amitriptyline (spellling?). I am very sensitive to all drugs and never found anything I could tolerate so I healed with Ashwagandha, Gaba Calm and other natural supplements. Benzodiazepines are scary drugs. There is a reason that most doctors will not prescribe them.

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ebtexas55 | @ebtexas55 | Oct 25 7:21am
In reply to @ellemccope "You may want to Google diurnal mood variation. That is the diagnosis from my psychiatrist. I..." + (show)
@ellemccope

You may want to Google diurnal mood variation. That is the diagnosis from my psychiatrist. I have morning depression and anxiety. In fact, it lasts all day and doesn’t subside until the evening.

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O ellemccope,
I am grieved to read your message and what you are going thru.
I hope you get a second opinion and pursue looking into whats going on in your body in addition to your brain.
Are you willing to step out and try a few things outside this diurnal mood variation diagnosis?
If so, please consider the things Ive posted.
Get a complete hormone level panel test.
Consider diet, exercise, spiritual strengthening by reading the Bible along with journaling.
Let me be clear: Im not discounting your psychiatrist.
Im asking you to think outside and in Addition to him/her.
I strongly believe the Truths in the Bible and Gods healing power. Its not always immediate but Hes with you every moment.
May I direct you to 2 Peter chapter 1? NASB version.
Read this slowly. Chew on it. Park on verse 2 because its a Promise.
Know, I am going to be praying for you.
God loves you. Youll see this as you read.
Cheering you on! 🏃‍♀️🏃‍♀️🏃‍♀️🏃‍♀️🏃‍♀️🏃‍♀️❤️🌺

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frouke | @frouke | Oct 25 7:41am

@1oldsoul, thank you for your helpful reply, you are so right about this, I know that benzodiazepine is not a good medication in all cases but it’s been my constant go to medication for over 20 years. The thought of having to stop taking it seems insurmountable to me and not to possible especially now with cancer in my life for the last 5 years. I got through the worst of times with this disease by taking Ativan, I truly don’t think I could have done it without this medication. I don’t want to sound like I’m promoting it by any means but for some people it’s a life saver. I’m resistant to antidepressants and went through hell on earth trying to use them, I would regress mentally and physically every time I tried. My pcp tried to pressure me sometimes ruthlessly to stop me and it caused terrible anxiety, I realize I may have to look into having to stop them because he is planning to retire next year, the thought of that is very daunting to say the least.

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ebtexas55 | @ebtexas55 | Oct 25 7:56am
In reply to @esikora "I have commented elsewhere on this form about the morning anxiety/ depression that has haunted me..." + (show)
@esikora

I have commented elsewhere on this form about the morning anxiety/ depression that has haunted me every morning for over three years. It starts even before I am fully awake, around 5. Usually disappates as the day goes on, but waking every day with such a sense of despair is crippling. My therapist and a few psychiatrists haven't helped.

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Esikora,
Your post has revealed there are several sisters in the am crying club and im one of them.
We are in good company!
So virtually, lets cheer each other on!
BTW:
Let me offer something else that helps distract and get me in a calmer and pleasant mind.
BRAIN GAMES STICKER BOOKS.

Put on some calm or inspirational music and do a page or 2.
Theyve REALLY helped redirect the tears to dryness. 😂🙌
I love the Mosaic, Psalms, Stress Free, Words of Jesus, Stained Glass, and Folk Art.
I was first gifted the Psalms. When I started my first one, I couldnt believe how therapeutic it was! Great music, nice brain activity and DRY EYES with a Joyful heart.
Hence, bought the next one and voila; a SUPER EASY DISTRACTING activity that showed me I COULD accomplish and overcome and move on thru the day!
Hope this helps!
And yes, I will be praying for you!
❤️🌺🏃‍♀️🏃‍♀️🏃‍♀️🏃‍♀️🏃‍♀️

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ebtexas55 | @ebtexas55 | Oct 25 8:49am
In reply to @1oldsoul "To @peeteer22 and @frouke and others: I can tell you about my similar experience with Xanax...." + (show)
@1oldsoul

To @peeteer22 and @frouke and others:
I can tell you about my similar experience with Xanax. I took a low dose (generally half of a .25 mg) for about 3 years mainly at night although there were many times I needed it during the day but held off/powered through the anxiety because I was afraid of dependence. About 2-3 years into taking it my anxiety and depression worsened (even started having occasional suicidal thoughts-so terrifying) and I finally realized I was having withdrawal symptoms (the next morning after taking it at night) and I stopped it cold turkey. A year later my anxiety and depression are almost nonexistent and I am finally starting to sleep better although I rarely ever get 7 or 8 hours sleep. Please consider going off the benzodiazepine and getting a prescription for something else if you need it such as Trazodone or Amitriptyline (spellling?). I am very sensitive to all drugs and never found anything I could tolerate so I healed with Ashwagandha, Gaba Calm and other natural supplements. Benzodiazepines are scary drugs. There is a reason that most doctors will not prescribe them.

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Thank you, 1 old soul.
This is helpful to know.
I will be weaned off lorazepam within the next 2 months.
My mom passed in January and the 2.5 years I had to fly twice a month out of state to check on her.
I developed all kinds if symptoms, gastritis was severe.
Then my BC was found in gut lining.
Im just about to finish her estate and when its closed, I will be dropping the lorazepam.
I will watch out for the withdrawals and chart my moods.
I appreciate the heads up! Glad youre better!
Best.
EB

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kayraymat | @kayraymat | Oct 25 3:22pm

This may sound like a joke but I am serious.
I have a glass of wine each night about 5:00 pm
and no matter what the problems have been during the
day, I feel better. Part is the alcohol & part is it signals
the end of the day. A blessings journal is also a good idea.
A friend who was a therapist kept a Positive feedback file
with comments from her clients & I have had professors/ teachers
also do the same with comments from students= happy time!!
Good luck......also buy a "Life is Good" tee shirt 🙂 Kayr

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robertwills | @robertwills | Oct 26 12:07pm

Some morning depression I believe is caused by fear and/or disgust for the day to come. I have often found that a light breakfast with two cups of authentic Irish breakfast tea (made in Ireland) and then an hour of walking usually sets me up for at least a manageable day, even a "glorious" day on many occasions. Walking and other aerobic exercises have been very effective for me.

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londonex | @londonex | Oct 26 3:38pm
In reply to @1oldsoul "To @peeteer22 and @frouke and others: I can tell you about my similar experience with Xanax...." + (show)
@1oldsoul

To @peeteer22 and @frouke and others:
I can tell you about my similar experience with Xanax. I took a low dose (generally half of a .25 mg) for about 3 years mainly at night although there were many times I needed it during the day but held off/powered through the anxiety because I was afraid of dependence. About 2-3 years into taking it my anxiety and depression worsened (even started having occasional suicidal thoughts-so terrifying) and I finally realized I was having withdrawal symptoms (the next morning after taking it at night) and I stopped it cold turkey. A year later my anxiety and depression are almost nonexistent and I am finally starting to sleep better although I rarely ever get 7 or 8 hours sleep. Please consider going off the benzodiazepine and getting a prescription for something else if you need it such as Trazodone or Amitriptyline (spellling?). I am very sensitive to all drugs and never found anything I could tolerate so I healed with Ashwagandha, Gaba Calm and other natural supplements. Benzodiazepines are scary drugs. There is a reason that most doctors will not prescribe them.

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I have been plagued by generalized anxiety disorder, and panic disorder most of my life. I’m not sure how I would’ve coped with many hundreds of situations without a benzodiazepine in hand. Been taking a very low dose of Klonopin most of my adult life without any issues at all, except major relief of anxiety and situations I needed to get through. I have been slowly tapering down and feel confident that I could get off if I wanted to, I think it’s a safe medication as long as you understand its limitations and issues with discontinuing.

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kayraymat | @kayraymat | Oct 27 8:22am

If drugs help, celebrate the fact we live in the 21st century & have
access to them. We brush our teeth everyday but don't say we are
addicted to toothpaste. Unless your doctor says your drug of choice
is having a bad affect on liver or kidneys, be glad to have a choice.
KR

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