Epstein Barr Nuclear AG AB IGG result of over 600

Posted by lsh @lsh, May 3, 2020

Hello, I am searching for information and also input because of my hideously high lab results for EBNA Nuclear AB IGG. My result was given as over 600. The range is less than 18 is negative. Over 22 is positive. To restate, my lab result is over 600.

I am 52. I did have mono at age 11. For at least four years I have complained on numerous times to my PCP of fatigue. We suspected thyroid but that has been treated and I still have suffered from bouts of fatigue, feeling like I was coming down with a bug, dizziness, etc for 3 or 4 days out of just about every month for the last eighteen months. I finally saw a naturopath who tested me for EBV.

I love my Naturopath, but I am wondering if I should be seeing a specialist because of this high lab result.
I am on a treatment plan of antiviral supplements, and immune supporting vitamins and supplements which she said will probably need to be taken for at least three months.

Has anyone else had numbers this high? I am having trouble finding much information on reactivated EBV.

Thank you!
Lisa

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@irenekw

Hello everyone,

I am a 57 year old female. I had mononucleosis from EBV when I was in high school, over 40 years ago. It was a severe case, but I was not hospitalized, back then they just had me sweat it out. I had a very high fever for several days and was put in our bathtub to lower my fever. Prior to Mono I had a photographic memory, Mono changed that and for the first time in my life I had to learn how to study. I still have memory issues to this day.

I have never had Covid, as I have been masking religiously, not dining indoors, and pretty much isolating for close to 4 years. (I have an autoimmune disease that causes me to have a hypercoagulable state - prone to blood clots). Plus I already believed my health issues stemmed from EBV and know that viruses can cause autoimmune and cancer, and I do not want to risk developing more health issues.

Right around perimenopause I started having issues. Bilateral joint pain, fatigue, weight gain, restless leg, hair loss, bilateral carpel tunnel like pain.... etc.

In 2018 I finally saw a rheumatologist. I tested negative for Lyme, lead, and mercury. My Vitamin D was low. I tested positive for autoantibodies (ANA). I then tested triple positive for antiphospholipid syndrome (APS) with symptoms of undifferentiated connective tissue disease (UCTD is like a catch all diagnosis where I don't fulfill the criteria for any other autoimmune diseases.)

The Mayo Clinic started me on Plaquenil (hydroxychloroquine and after 3 months I felt amazing. I continue to take Plaquenil and my autoimmune is in remission / is asymptomatic. Before Plaquenil I had difficulty climbing the stairs (weakness and pain), I had profound fatigue and just felt bad. Plaquenil has been a miracle for me.

I had very strong reactions to all 3 Moderna vaccines. My symptoms ran the gamut. I had a high heart rate, nausea, insomnia, body aches, fever, bizarre cartilage pains, jaw pain, thirst, muscle twitches and internal tremors. In 2021 I went to see an infectious disease doctor who ordered EBV, CMV, and HIV, Toxoplasma and Hepatitis testing. Everything was negative with the exception of one Lyme band, Cytomegalovirus (CMV) and EBV.

OF NOTE: The EBV range at Quest is >150, the EBV range at Labcorp is >600. Anyone else use two different labs?

My results in 2021 (Quest):

41 KD IGG Band (Lyme) - reactive (the infectious disease doctor said this was inconsequential).
CMV IGG >10 high
CMV IGM negative
CMV DNA QN PCR - negative
EBV Early Antigen D AB IGG >150 high
EBV DNA QN PCR - negative

Then in 2023 I had my EBV tested again (Quest). The results:
EBV Early Antigen D AB IGG >150 high

Then in 2024 I had my EBV tested again (Labcorp). The results:
EBV VCA IGM - negative
EBV VCA IGG >600 high
EBV Nuclear AG IGG >600 high

I was seeking answers on why the Moderna vaccines made me so ill. In 2021 I went to my rheumatologist at the Mayo Clinic who was at a loss and believes I may have had a retro virus reactivated or they affected my vagus nerve. My symptoms ultimately subsided. However, I did have a persistent lymph node in my right armpit after the second vaccine. Then another in my left armpit. Then after my third dose I had a lymph node appear in my groin. My intuition told me I had lymphoma. I went to see an oncologist who wanted me to wait another 6 months to see if the lymph nodes would subside. I had been told to catch cancer early in order to get the best chance of survival so I pushed my GP to order the biopsy.

I was diagnosed with follicular non Hodgkin's lymphoma and am on "Watch and Wait" as the cancer is currently less of a risk to me than the chemo or treatment would be.

All the while the high EBV titer has been nagging me. Is the EBV antibody level contributing to my cancer and autoimmune? WHY is my titer so high? Do I have a subclinical chronic EBV infection?

I hope some day we all get answers.

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I caught my EBV Nuclear AG IGG as it was climbing up to 600. I had multiple tests, and it kept increasing to the 500 range when I started valacyclovir. It took almost a year of 1g every 8 hours, but it dropped below 300 and I started feeling better. I also showed antibodies for CMV. Good luck finding a doctor that will prescript that dosage. I was fortunate and still take 1g daily as some of my symptoms started to return when I was off totally for 9 months.

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I tested positive for EB in 2016 however I wasn't notified. I then suffered incredible fatique to where I couldn't get to work for years. In late 2023 a Dr told me to try 8.5 to 15 mg L Methofolate. It has provided me some energy, mental clarity and focus I've been drained of. I've been complaining about Fatique for years to no avail. In 2023 with newly found energy and focus I started to seek consistently wit my Drs my Fatique issue. My Dr tested me for EB. I had 3 tests in 3 months. My results have been high. And we also discovered Id been tested in 2016 but not notified of results. Its been mentioned I may have Chronic EB. I cannot find an Infectious Disease Dr that will see me. At this point I've been told by an Immunologist I may not even have Chronic EB based on the bloodwork. Now I'm even more confused as to what to do next. My Drs office doesn't want to waste their time referring me to any more Infectious Disease Drs so now I'm really stuck. My test in early 2023 was:
EBV VIRAL CAPSID AG (VCA) AB (IGM)
59.70 H
U/mL
EBV VIRAL CAPSID AG (VCA) AB (IGG)
543.00 H
U/mL
EBV NUCLEAR AG (EBNA) AB (IGG)
48.30 H

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@anneh12345

I tested positive for EB in 2016 however I wasn't notified. I then suffered incredible fatique to where I couldn't get to work for years. In late 2023 a Dr told me to try 8.5 to 15 mg L Methofolate. It has provided me some energy, mental clarity and focus I've been drained of. I've been complaining about Fatique for years to no avail. In 2023 with newly found energy and focus I started to seek consistently wit my Drs my Fatique issue. My Dr tested me for EB. I had 3 tests in 3 months. My results have been high. And we also discovered Id been tested in 2016 but not notified of results. Its been mentioned I may have Chronic EB. I cannot find an Infectious Disease Dr that will see me. At this point I've been told by an Immunologist I may not even have Chronic EB based on the bloodwork. Now I'm even more confused as to what to do next. My Drs office doesn't want to waste their time referring me to any more Infectious Disease Drs so now I'm really stuck. My test in early 2023 was:
EBV VIRAL CAPSID AG (VCA) AB (IGM)
59.70 H
U/mL
EBV VIRAL CAPSID AG (VCA) AB (IGG)
543.00 H
U/mL
EBV NUCLEAR AG (EBNA) AB (IGG)
48.30 H

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Do you feel like you have arthritic type pain?

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Diagnosed with ME/CFS and recently reactivated EBV. Have been bed bound for years. The EBV has increased fatigue and has caused heavy pain in hands and forearms. Any thoughts or pain management suggestions? Good luck

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@caregiver49

Do you feel like you have arthritic type pain?

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Yes I do.

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@caregiver49

Diagnosed with ME/CFS and recently reactivated EBV. Have been bed bound for years. The EBV has increased fatigue and has caused heavy pain in hands and forearms. Any thoughts or pain management suggestions? Good luck

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I have been suffering through it. I have had to start up my ibprophen intake again. I know this isn't good.

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@anneh12345

I have been suffering through it. I have had to start up my ibprophen intake again. I know this isn't good.

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I began telling my Drs in probably 2016 I intuitively as well as physically felt like I had something like Chronic Fatique or possibly an adrenal issue just from my own brief research online. I feel like during the worst of it I was basically bed ridden for at least a couple of those years.

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@caregiver49

Do you feel like you have arthritic type pain?

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Could be but it came on rapidly so unsure

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My dx is Me/cfs. I requested test for EBV and it is positive. I don’t know why doctors along the way didn’t suggest it. Doubtful it changes much but at least it is something to research. Seems me/Cfs is the perfect dx giving doctors the excuse to ignore patients. Good luck

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@anneh12345

I began telling my Drs in probably 2016 I intuitively as well as physically felt like I had something like Chronic Fatique or possibly an adrenal issue just from my own brief research online. I feel like during the worst of it I was basically bed ridden for at least a couple of those years.

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10 years here.

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