Brain fog - ask your doctor about amantadine
4 months into long Covid and in clinical studies at University of Illinois Chicago and Northwestern U. Dozens of memory gaps throughout the day, like blackouts. I’d take a guitar lesson and be shown a riff. I’d have to write down each note and play it while reading. I couldn’t remember a handful of notes and I’ve been playing 20 years.
A Northwestern neurologist suggested we try amantadine. You can look it up. One thing it helps with is older people with cognitive issues. I’m 45 and healthy. After two weeks, I’m a new guy, and I had lost all hope. A had a lesson a couple days ago. He’d show me a riff and I’d play it right back and we would move on to the next part. I’m doing my job far better. I can remember my whole day. I recovered physically after three months but had been stuck on this memory issue until now.
I’m not a doctor, just a regular guy on this long journey. Just suggesting you ask your doctor. Best to all.
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I am very sensitive to medication also. It makes me wary of starting some new thing when I’m already to the breaking point with managing symptoms.
But, I will mention amantadine at my next doctor appointment.
I also wonder if people get better and stop posting. I imagine that is true. I hope to resume my life at some point too.
Hello. @emo addd as well. I had Covid April 2022. The Northwestern neurologist working on long Covid decided to try amantadine. It helps brain neurons reconnect, which made sense. I probably started in June. Within a week, people said my whole appearance and behavior changed for the better. In October 2022, I found myself slipping and he doubled the dose. I saw him summer 2024 and he said there’s no research to suggest I keep using it, increase dosage, or stop. I’m afraid to stop.
In December 2023 I caught Covid again. I got the week long paxlovid and that made me feel great. Brain fog was lifted- I could play guitar again and do well at work.
I started to decline again in July. I got into the clinical trial and wrapped up three weeks of paxlovid last week. I felt great when I was on it. Now I feel a bit crappy.
There’s a new drug approved for long Covid trial that seems to work like amantadine.
https://www.biospace.com/press-releases/biovie-announces-fda-authorization-of-investigational-new-drug-application-for-phase-2-trial-to-evaluate-bezisterim-in-long-covid
Thanks for the article. I just replied in this thread to a related question. I don’t believe I suffered side effects. I as feeling so bad before starting with it. But I also tolerate medicine pretty well.
At this point, I don’t know what would happen if I tapered off from it. There’s no research, according to my neuro. Until I see some good data, I’ll stick with it, along with other meds I’m on.
I’ve been taking Amantadine for a couple of months. I really think it’s helping me!
Thanks for sharing! Did you experience any side effects when you started taking it?
Thanks for the reply. I really appreciate it, and I'm glad it helped you.
That's kind of odd your neuro said there wasn't any research (but maybe this was earlier on) because they told me they're prescribing it specifically because there's some limited research demonstrating a benefit. I had asked about a case report from Stanford where they used 600 mg NAC (a supplement) and 2 mg guanfacine, which is a non-stimulant medication for ADHD, and the Northwestern team said they wouldn't prescribe that because there's more research supporting use of amantadine.
At any rate, glad it helped you. I'm going to start a clinical trial in November for long COVID brain fog, so maybe after that's over if I don't have a benefit, I'll circle back to them to try the amantadine...
I’m always glad to read about something else to discuss with my doctor. I will definitely discuss these drugs with him.
My issues are ears and vision. After checking out ears and eyes thoroughly, it is determined to be a brain issue. Perhaps these drugs would be of some help? It’s certainly worth considering.
My issues keep me home bound and I am desperate for improvement.
In reply to @emo @ericy210 @dloos
I started at NWMH LC clinic (in neurology) on 9/11 after a one year wait; LC since 3/23, mostly neurological/fatigue symptoms. I was evaluated (interviewed?) by Dr. Adibnia at length and then Dr. Koralnik popped in (and out). Dr. K. said "try amantadine, it's helped a lot of people," so I picked up the prescription. He said there are over 2000 patients in the LC clinic, so he's probably a bit overworked. After reading Mayo's list of possible side fx of amantadine, I'm quite hesitant to take it, as I too am sensitive to meds. He also recommended that I try the LC support group (Zoom, monthly); I checked into it and spoke with the LCSW who runs it. He sent a link to previous meetings (available on YouTube). They last 1-1/2 hours, and start with various M.D.'s who speak for the first hour; that is followed by a group chat in which the LC clinic patients share viewpoints, and I'll start this week. I'm to follow up my clinic visit in six weeks with a virtual visit with "Asheera": -- and have been trying to make that appointment with no success yet. Other than that, after a year and a half of this stinky thing, and too much time spent researching, crickets.
Thanks for checking back in. I’m sorry it sounds like it wasn’t as fruitful as you hoped.
I was sort of prepared for that kind or response though; my expectations were low since I’ve had chronic pain for a very long time. I’ve learned not to really expect much concrete help from physicians, particularly neurologists.
I’ve mentioned this before in other chronic pain discussion, but I for the most leverage for fatigue out of appropriate physical therapy (meaning someone who is experienced with chronic pain and fatigue said understands PEM, central sensitization, and appropriate pacing), especially if they’re knowledgeable in pain neuroscience and/or a pain neuroscience program such as Curable (it’s an app, so easier to access and give it as an example).
I’m surprised you’re having a hard time getting an appointment with Asheeta. She had tons of availability for video visits when I checked and it wasn’t hard to schedule—I always schedule at the front desk. But maybe her patient load has grown. If that or calling doesn’t work, you could message Dr. Koralnik’s team in My Chart and say you’re trying to schedule with Asheeta but with no luck. I had to do that once and they had someone call me (because I needed an in person, which needs to be specially scheduled). All her return visits are by video visit.
If it’s helpful to anyone at all, I think I have a notes from my Johns Hopkins PT about paced exercise for chronic fatigue. She treats POTS and Long COVID.
Would love to hear your experience with amantadine if you decide to try it. Thanks again for sharing. It’s tough.
@emo
Thanks for this; I appreciate all the help. I'll keep in touch as I go through this process; really not feeling it for Amantadine. The side fx are scary, and the positive fx are relatively unproven. I'll check out some of your suggestions and will be at the NWMH LC support group this Thursday... maybe I'll learn more.
It IS tough ...