Say something? Say nothing? looking for advice.

Posted by 2me @2me, Jul 30 3:09pm

My husband received an email from our heating contractor today about pre-payment of propane.

The first I knew of it was when I heard him on the phone asking questions about the program. (He decided not to pre-pay.)

Not FIVE minutes later, I heard him on the phone again, asking the same questions of the same company!

When he got off the phone, I told him he had just called a few minutes earlier…and then I felt bad.

Is it good for him to realize he is doing this, or should I have remained silent and not made him feel bad?

I feel terrible. Advice welcome.

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@carrie40

These are such great suggestions; it always surprises me how much alike the symptoms or behavior is for various types of dementia. The "he gets quiet" part really was familiar. I'm Carrie from "Pancreatic Cancer" group but have this husband dementia problem too.
I have a question: is not hearing properly a symptom of dementia or just being "hard of hearing?"
"But you said...." is commonplace around here.

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It is difficult to say if my husband is not hearing or not understanding what he hears. Recently, I had taken my husband to a day care situation. I was asking him to sit in a chair at a table with other people. I pointed and asked repeatedly. Finally one of the caretakers working there came over and said "This is what I do." She said " sit in the chair" and sat in it herself. Then she got up and asked him to do it. He sat immediately. I realized that his receptive language is a lot worse than I knew. When he doesn't do what I ask or says no, I just demonstrate for him and he always complies.

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@kathy26

It is difficult to say if my husband is not hearing or not understanding what he hears. Recently, I had taken my husband to a day care situation. I was asking him to sit in a chair at a table with other people. I pointed and asked repeatedly. Finally one of the caretakers working there came over and said "This is what I do." She said " sit in the chair" and sat in it herself. Then she got up and asked him to do it. He sat immediately. I realized that his receptive language is a lot worse than I knew. When he doesn't do what I ask or says no, I just demonstrate for him and he always complies.

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@kathy26 Welcome to Mayo Clinic Connect! I’m so glad that you found this site! And I love your tip on demonstrating along with telling your husband what to do. We recently had this discussion on hearing and dementia. you may want to read it.
https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/dementia-and-hearing-aids/
Has your husband ever commented about not hearing? Do you think he may consider it?

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@celia16

My dad does these things of which he is not aware (hiring two plumbers for same job), but he is intact with things like pin codes, ss#, address, road directions, etc. He can direct me on shortcuts around the county. It’s unreal.

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It's pretty common. The long-term memory is still functioning in relation to the past. The problem is making new memories and shor-term memory.

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Whenever I got a call from Memory Care to meet my cousin at the hospital (falls, UTI, etc.) I’d meet her there as she was transported by ambulance. It always scared her, no matter how nice and comforting everyone was. As we waited in the ED cubicle, she would say, I love you so much! And, I’d say, I love you too! Then…5 minutes later it would be repeated….over and over…hour after hour….Even if I tried to change the subject. Lol. Most of these visits lasted 4-8 hours. I often laughed thinking about the people in the adjacent cubicles hearing this dialogue ! Lol. I guess they figured out what the situation was.

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@ret2tus

Before my husband was diagnosed with Alzheimers last fall, I also had thought that long-term memory remained much longer than short-term. That was the way it was with his mother, who also had the disease. I have been surprised that my husband's long-term memory isn't good anymore either. We went to the same high school and have many shared experiences from throughout our 54 years together. It is sad that besides his forgetting what just was said or happened, we can't reminisce either.

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My husband and I have been together for 60 years. I would think that I would count as someone from his past, but no. The long-term spouse seems to be the one cut from the memory bank. I am just a caretaker now; he is confused as to who I am and why I would behere.He even questions why I am in all his photos from the past. It is one of the cruelest aspects of having a loved one with ALZ.

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@carrie40

These are such great suggestions; it always surprises me how much alike the symptoms or behavior is for various types of dementia. The "he gets quiet" part really was familiar. I'm Carrie from "Pancreatic Cancer" group but have this husband dementia problem too.
I have a question: is not hearing properly a symptom of dementia or just being "hard of hearing?"
"But you said...." is commonplace around here.

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Much of the hearing problem is the inability to process what was heard to make sense of it. Six months ago, I bought excellent hearing aids for my husband to the tune of $5,200. It was very helpful for conversation and my not having to repeat what I said. As ALZ reared its ugly head, the $$$hearing aids were found in pockets, glasses case, under the bed, or put in the battery case backwards..on and on. It became a thorn in his side to have them put in. Now they are AWOL in the house somewhere. I am not replacing them. I try not to "poke the bear" as much as possible and his lack of cognitive ability to understand what is said has outweighed his need to hear more clearly.

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@billiekip

My husband and I have been together for 60 years. I would think that I would count as someone from his past, but no. The long-term spouse seems to be the one cut from the memory bank. I am just a caretaker now; he is confused as to who I am and why I would behere.He even questions why I am in all his photos from the past. It is one of the cruelest aspects of having a loved one with ALZ.

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I’m so sorry…This is such a rough road. I’m so grateful to have this group. Hugs

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@billiekip

My husband and I have been together for 60 years. I would think that I would count as someone from his past, but no. The long-term spouse seems to be the one cut from the memory bank. I am just a caretaker now; he is confused as to who I am and why I would behere.He even questions why I am in all his photos from the past. It is one of the cruelest aspects of having a loved one with ALZ.

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My husband not recognizing me at times is the most painful part of this terrible disease.
We will look at old photos, and he will say, "That's Trisha," but you're not Trisha!!!

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@ret2tus

Before my husband was diagnosed with Alzheimers last fall, I also had thought that long-term memory remained much longer than short-term. That was the way it was with his mother, who also had the disease. I have been surprised that my husband's long-term memory isn't good anymore either. We went to the same high school and have many shared experiences from throughout our 54 years together. It is sad that besides his forgetting what just was said or happened, we can't reminisce either.

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I would be very curious if your husband could remember high school experiences with a buddy but not with you. There does seem to be a barrier between spouses. Give it a try. You may have to reminisce vicariously by hearing your husband and a mutual friend talk about old times together. We have been together for 60 years. Why don't I count as a part of his past in that long term memory bank?

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@trishaanderson

My husband not recognizing me at times is the most painful part of this terrible disease.
We will look at old photos, and he will say, "That's Trisha," but you're not Trisha!!!

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Your comment brought tears to my eyes. I am so sorry you are experiencing this. I broke down in huge deep sobs when I first experienced this; it runs so deep. It makes you feel like you have just wasted decades of your life with your spouse. My husband doesn't call me by name. Not even sure if he knows it. The kids made him a picture book with names to help him hold on to some memories. I'm not one of them. He handed the phone to me to talk to his sister referring to me as "the person I'm talking to. In my experience, this lack of recognition doesn't come and go; it is gone and the quicker you accept it the better. I am a stranger -a friendly caretaker. Nothing more. It is hard to keep loving a person who doesn't know you. I took my marriage vows seriously. For better or worst; but I didn't realize how "worst" it could be. I am so sorry for how devasted you are feeling. It is a crushing blow. I think only people who experience it can understand how very painful it is.

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